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#211 Excel

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 10:51 PM

View PostEagleJoe8, on 31 December 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

I think Seattle can beat the Skins, and if Bob isn't better than he was Sunday night, the Hawks will win.
As do I. I don't think it's going to be close.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 11:32 PM

I think it will be a good game. The Redskins have that "Big Mo" (momentum) as Brian Dawkins says.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 11:37 PM

As much as I wanted the Skins to win last night, my hope now is that the Skins, (and Atlanta) are eliminated as soon as possible.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 10:12 AM

View PostMightyJNC, on 31 December 2012 - 07:32 PM, said:

I have to admit to being somewhat surprised too, because I really was starting to get the impression that he had turned the proverbial corner in that regard the way he played in the 2nd half this season before last nite.

me too, now on that drive he was without his top 3 wr's, Dez, Austin and Harris were all out injured, so had he just failed in that situation, I'd have understood, like maybe gotten to 4th down and had to heave up a prayer, but to throw that pass on 1st down was flat out horrible, he should take a sack there or throw the ball away......but not make a blind throw to a RB

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 01:10 PM

View PostStephen1, on 01 January 2013 - 10:12 AM, said:

me too, now on that drive he was without his top 3 wr's, Dez, Austin and Harris were all out injured, so had he just failed in that situation, I'd have understood, like maybe gotten to 4th down and had to heave up a prayer, but to throw that pass on 1st down was flat out horrible, he should take a sack there or throw the ball away......but not make a blind throw to a RB

I doubt that they'd seriously consider a change to start next season (mainly due to not having a better option) but would also assume that he's going to have to reverse that trend ASAP or next year will be his last in Big D (although he strikes me as one of those players who could really benefit from, and flourish with a change of scenery).

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:05 PM

View PostMightyJNC, on 01 January 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

I doubt that they'd seriously consider a change to start next season (mainly due to not having a better option) but would also assume that he's going to have to reverse that trend ASAP or next year will be his last in Big D (although he strikes me as one of those players who could really benefit from, and flourish with a change of scenery).

i think the Dallas organization and coaching staff is a train wreck, and I have no doubt that Romo would flourish somewhere else. I don't think they are even considering a change at this point though, the only way Romo loses his job is if he gets injured, Romo blew the end of that game no argument from me, but Romo is safe because the beginning of they year the "insiders" in Dallas said that this was a rebuilding year, they knew the OL stunk, but did not have the money in FA to address it, and 7 defensive starters on IR after week four lowered expectations even more, Romo almost single handily put and kept them in contention for the NFCE, only about 5-7 QB's would have done as well or better in my opinion, Peyton, Eli, Brees, Rogers, Big Ben...might be missing someone, I'd leave Brady off the list because while a much better QB, he is so slow footed at this point that he would have been on IR by week 3, but you can include him if you want.

the only scenario I see where Romo loses his job in Dallas is if he gets hurt next year, they tank...like 3-4 wins, Garrett loses his job, Romo is a FA, new coach comes in and wants to draft a QB high in the draft, other than that I think Romo gets 3-4 year extension and they try and actually get an OL and hope the defense isn't a mash unit again.

Again, I'm po'd at Romo over the end of that game, but I'm optimistic because Dallas really had some young players step up this year, they rebuilt the secondary and LB corps this year and I think are seriously a rebuilt OL away from being an actual good team.

But JJ is calling the shots, so get ready for a WR or RB in round 1 this year, and he probably wont take play calling duties from Garrett like he needs to, Garrett is THE worst play caller in the NFCE, and that includes Andy and Marty.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 09:31 PM

View PostSack that QB, on 30 December 2012 - 11:38 PM, said:

The Redskins are a terrible football team. The NFC East sucks if they are the best the division has to offer. They won't do anything in the playoffs.
Are you smoking something?? 7 wins in a row and a title:) nuff said.. ..
and I want someone to take Atlanta out.. and I am not rooting for the Skins in the NFC

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 10:11 PM

Hey the Redskins earned the East, I don't mind sitting back and watching RG3 play vs the Seahawks rookier star either.
Something about Seattle I just don't like, dunno what it is... nice city but I don't like the team...

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 10:48 PM

View PostupstateCowboy, on 01 January 2013 - 10:11 PM, said:

Hey the Redskins earned the East, I don't mind sitting back and watching RG3 play vs the Seahawks rookier star either.
Something about Seattle I just don't like, dunno what it is... nice city but I don't like the team...

if we had somehow won last week this game would be an abortion, Romo, Austin, Bryant, Harris, Ware, and Spencer all would have missed the game leaving us a total of about 8 healthy starters out of 22..  Heck, I think Seattle would beat us with all those guys let alone without them. I hate Seattle, but I think they will take this game, and I actually don't hate the skins and will root for them, RG3 is hobbled and the skins frankly aren't that good, they aren't bad, but they are only a shade better than Dallas and Seattle is on a whole other level. On offense I see Seattle and Washington as being almost equal, but Seattle has a better OL, and Seattle just has a flat out better defense than Washington.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:20 AM

View PostStephen1, on 01 January 2013 - 10:48 PM, said:

if we had somehow won last week this game would be an abortion, Romo, Austin, Bryant, Harris, Ware, and Spencer all would have missed the game leaving us a total of about 8 healthy starters out of 22..  Heck, I think Seattle would beat us with all those guys let alone without them. I hate Seattle, but I think they will take this game, and I actually don't hate the skins and will root for them, RG3 is hobbled and the skins frankly aren't that good, they aren't bad, but they are only a shade better than Dallas and Seattle is on a whole other level. On offense I see Seattle and Washington as being almost equal, but Seattle has a better OL, and Seattle just has a flat out better defense than Washington.

The health of Bob is my biggest factor in this game. I don't know that Bob will run on Seattle like he did Dallas, (though of course, having another week of healing has to help). I think he's going to have to be a better passer than he was against Dallas to beat Seattle. Seattle has the #1 scoring defense. At the same time, Seattle, on the road, (3-5 this year), is a different team. Tough game to pick.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:58 AM

View PostEagleJoe8, on 02 January 2013 - 09:20 AM, said:

The health of Bob is my biggest factor in this game. I don't know that Bob will run on Seattle like he did Dallas, (though of course, having another week of healing has to help). I think he's going to have to be a better passer than he was against Dallas to beat Seattle. Seattle has the #1 scoring defense. At the same time, Seattle, on the road, (3-5 this year), is a different team. Tough game to pick.

yeah, Seattle also isn't missing 5 of their front 7 with a 6th playing with 1 arm and signing people off the street and starting them a DT like Dallas. That Dallas defense is putrid and I think RG3 is obviously hurt, if healthy he'd have ran for 100+ last week too, there were a couple runs he had where there were obvious lanes that he would normally take, instead he slid. If RG3 were healthy I'd take the skins, but since he isn't, I'm leaning toward Seattle.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:09 AM

View PostStephen1, on 02 January 2013 - 10:58 AM, said:

yeah, Seattle also isn't missing 5 of their front 7 with a 6th playing with 1 arm and signing people off the street and starting them a DT like Dallas. That Dallas defense is putrid and I think RG3 is obviously hurt, if healthy he'd have ran for 100+ last week too, there were a couple runs he had where there were obvious lanes that he would normally take, instead he slid. If RG3 were healthy I'd take the skins, but since he isn't, I'm leaning toward Seattle.



Have you seen the Seattle Seahawks play the last month? You're doing them a terrible injustice by not picking them to win based on merit, but based on RGIII's health. They have absolutely bombarded their opponents. Wilson's playing just as well, if not better than Griffin right now. The Skins defense is just as putrid as Dallas', but your boys couldn't take advantage for whatever reason(health and/or execution). Seattle probably won't make that mistake.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:27 AM

Everyone is counting the skins out already against Seattle. The last 7 games have been playoff games for the skins. They will be ready.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:47 AM

View PostFroggy, on 02 January 2013 - 11:09 AM, said:

Have you seen the Seattle Seahawks play the last month? You're doing them a terrible injustice by not picking them to win based on merit, but based on RGIII's health. They have absolutely bombarded their opponents. Wilson's playing just as well, if not better than Griffin right now. The Skins defense is just as putrid as Dallas', but your boys couldn't take advantage for whatever reason(health and/or execution). Seattle probably won't make that mistake.

If the game were in Seattle, I'd be all over the Hawks, but Seattle is a different team away from home, and I tend to get nervous picking teams who have to travel cross country. At the same time, Bob's health concerns me a bit. I think Seattle's defense would be a challenge regardless, but at less than 100%, it makes it tougher. I don't think there is a clear cut pick for this game.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:52 AM

View PostEagleJoe8, on 02 January 2013 - 11:47 AM, said:

If the game were in Seattle, I'd be all over the Hawks, but Seattle is a different team away from home, and I tend to get nervous picking teams who have to travel cross country. At the same time, Bob's health concerns me a bit. I think Seattle's defense would be a challenge regardless, but at less than 100%, it makes it tougher. I don't think there is a clear cut pick for this game.


I'd agree with you, but then I'd look at those road games they lost, and they lost those games by 4, 6, 7, 4 and 3 points...which tells me that their road "problems" aren't really big problems, because they ended up competing in every one of those losses, I think they can be forgiven for that. And they won their last two road games, which were both cross country games. I think they may have figured things out near the end of the season while their rookie QB kept getting better and better.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:44 PM

This should be the best game of the weekend.

Cin 16
Hou 24

GB 31
Minn 20

Ind 13
Balt 23

Sea 24
Wash 20

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:33 PM

View PostRedskinsFan01, on 02 January 2013 - 11:27 AM, said:

Everyone is counting the skins out already against Seattle. The last 7 games have been playoff games for the skins. They will be ready.

In those 7 games you haven't face a defense like Seattle...
Philly twice  15th rank defense.
Dallas twice 19th
Giants 31st
Ravens  17th
Browns 23rd

Seattle is the 4 rank defense in the league, you feasted on **** defenses, if you feast on Seattle and will give the Skins props...

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:59 PM



Here's how some Cowboys fans are dealing with the Romo situation

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:27 PM

View PostRedskinsFan01, on 02 January 2013 - 11:27 AM, said:

Everyone is counting the skins out already against Seattle. The last 7 games have been playoff games for the skins. They will be ready.

I think the skins win. But we shall see..should be a good game.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:57 PM

Easy to pick who I want here:
I will be rooting for the NFC East, forget the rest:) GO RG3!!

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:49 PM

I am all aboard the Redskins, why root for anyone else in the NFC>?
I don't mind seeing the Vikes or Niners also take the NFC..

Please no Seattle or Packers,.,.ugh,,

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:28 PM

View Postpencil face, on 02 January 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:



In those 7 games you haven't face a defense like Seattle...
Philly twice  15th rank defense.
Dallas twice 19th
Giants 31st
Ravens  17th
Browns 23rd

Seattle is the 4 rank defense in the league, you feasted on **** defenses, if you feast on Seattle and will give the Skins props...

We were actually ranked that high?  Sweet!!

:groovy:

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:08 PM

View PostRedskinsFan01, on 02 January 2013 - 11:27 AM, said:

Everyone is counting the skins out already against Seattle. The last 7 games have been playoff games for the skins. They will be ready.

You'll find out why soon enough. Seattle has a smothering defense, and lets face it, Wilson should most definitely be in the talk of ROTY, but since he doesn't get the major hype that Bob and Luck do, he wont even be close, despite the fact that he has outplayed both of them in at least some aspects. The Skins most definitely have a chance, but they haven't seen a team like Seattle, who are really strong on all sides.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:27 PM

View PostGmen4ever, on 03 January 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

You'll find out why soon enough. Seattle has a smothering defense, and lets face it, Wilson should most definitely be in the talk of ROTY, but since he doesn't get the major hype that Bob and Luck do, he wont even be close, despite the fact that he has outplayed both of them in at least some aspects. The Skins most definitely have a chance, but they haven't seen a team like Seattle, who are really strong on all sides.

That's a pretty bold prediction there, Skins will give them all they can handle. Not that I want to see anyone in the east other than the Giants in there though.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 06:00 PM

View PostGA4M, on 03 January 2013 - 05:27 PM, said:

That's a pretty bold prediction there, Skins will give them all they can handle. Not that I want to see anyone in the east other than the Giants in there though.


He said the Skins most definitely have a chance...

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 06:34 PM

View PostGA4M, on 03 January 2013 - 05:27 PM, said:

That's a pretty bold prediction there, Skins will give them all they can handle. Not that I want to see anyone in the east other than the Giants in there though.

Not really. Not taking anything away from Washington, but they just aren't as complete a team as Seattle. Defensively, they are not nearly as strong, and Seattle has been lighting it up on offense lately. I expect a good game, but I dont see the Skins pulling this one off. I dont hate either team, and I really like both QB's, so whoever wins doesn't matter to me.





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