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#1 PickFoles

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:26 PM

Lurie:

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"I keep a list of all the people who pick what player on this team" "The best talent evaluator in the building is Howie Roseman"  "2012 was all Howie Roseman"

He just said that he went back through the last 3-4 drafts and tried to figure out which member of the organization was best at finding talent, and that was Howie Roseman.

Apparently Roseman picked everyone in this past (2012) draft.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:27 PM

Really? Because he also said that Howie and AR worked hand in hand in the draft

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:28 PM

Howie sucks.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:30 PM

Lurie knows who is drafting which player.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:30 PM

Hey Pick Foles... how was your Hero yesterday? he played great didn't he?   HAHAHAHHAHAHA  He just helped prove how much better Foles is than him and Foles is a ROOKIE.... hahahahahaahhaaaaaaaaaa

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:30 PM

View Postmike030270, on 31 December 2012 - 01:27 PM, said:

Really? Because he also said that Howie and AR worked hand in hand in the draft

Nope, he said Roseman is fully, solely responsible for 2012, and pretty much anyone who got drafted and sucked before that was picked by someone else.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:30 PM

Shocker, he's going to defend his buddy.  Who picked everyone in 2010-2011?

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:32 PM

I'm sure what Lurie says should be taken with a grain of salt. I do, however, that Howie can be great at his job, and I'm not entirely certain why fans hate him so much when he continues to do a very respectable job as the GM.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:32 PM

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Jeff Lurie: "I keep a list of all the people who pick what player on this team" "The best talent evaluator in the building is Howie Roseman"  "2012 was all Howie Roseman"

This is what I thought. I notice with Banner gone the Eagles draft got better. I don't know where all the hate on Howie started.... oh yes I do, lazy media and some fans follow only what they hear come from the massive.

I think Howie will get us good talent from the draft.

Anyone else thinks this? :-)

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:32 PM

View PostPickFoles, on 31 December 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

Nope, he said Roseman is fully, solely responsible for 2012, and pretty much anyone who got drafted and sucked before that was picked by someone else.
Check again. He said AR and Howie were responsible.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:35 PM

Lurie  let this franchise crumble under his watch  ...  all the tears over Reid is weak weak

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:36 PM

View Postmike030270, on 31 December 2012 - 01:32 PM, said:

Check again. He said AR and Howie were responsible.

I heard "Howie and I," when did you hear Howie and Andy?

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:36 PM

He was clearly pointing blame at Joe Banner, not Andy.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:37 PM

While I hope it is true, I don't trust Lurie.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:37 PM

Howie Howie Howie Howie Howie Howie Howie Howie Howie Howie Howie Howie  .....

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:37 PM

I didn't mind what Roseman has done. Everyone and their mother thought the Nnamdi signing was great. He went out and got Ryans on the cheap from the Texans. The 2012 draft looks promising so far with Cox grading out very well as a rookie and Foles, possibly, becoming something huge.

At the very least, Roseman likes to take risks and is a mover and a shaker. Will they all pan out? Of course not, but I like that he tries.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:38 PM

View PostPickFoles, on 31 December 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

I heard "Howie and I," when did you hear Howie and Andy?

Pretty sure he said Andy was involved.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:38 PM

I hope it is true that Howie is 100% responsible for the 2012 draft because that may mean our drafts get better.

Remember we did pick a LB in the second round, something REID was not known for, so maybe it was all Howie.

I think Howie deserves another year or two to see how we develop, he may not know football like other GM's but he is doing what's best for this team.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:41 PM

View Postckudrick, on 31 December 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

He was clearly pointing blame at Joe Banner, not Andy.
Yeap! For a moment I thought he was about to say his name. His eyes were red with anger. :roll:

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:42 PM

Jeff McLane@Jeff_McLane
Lurie commends Howie Roseman for 2012 draft, but said Andy Reid still had final say for that draft

Geoff Mosher@GeoffMosherCSN
Lurie says 2012 draft is good and Andy and Howie had full say. (Obviously saying Joe Banner was the problem).

Bob Grotz@BobGrotz
Luriet: "The mistakes that were made in the 2011 draft have little or nothing to do with Howie's talent evaluation." #JoeBannersFault

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:43 PM

This years draft was different than previous drafts, there were no WTF picks, no 225lb  DEs speedballs from some unknown college like Whatsamatter U

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:45 PM

Here is a question i wanted to hear.....who was truely responsible for our free agent shopping spree which lurie pretty much admitted was the start of our demise? I just don't see that person as being andy reid. I hope it wasn't howie but where else should the finger go? There is no way you can tell me that reid who consistently built his teams through the draft was the one that decided we were going to go "all in". That being said it certainly was time for reid to go. 4-12 speaks for itself whether he is directly responsible or not. I just hope lurie doesn't pick a college coach who wastes are first round pick on a "mobile qb" when we have glaring holes and an obviously bright and promising nick foles on the roster.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:47 PM

I don't know how Lurie can be confident that HR knows what he is doing, if he is just basing it on this past draft.  I guess he didn't want Watkins, but any idiot could have told you Watkins and other picks in 2011 were dumb.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:50 PM

View Postbobbywizdum, on 31 December 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

Here is a question i wanted to hear.....who was truely responsible for our free agent shopping spree which lurie pretty much admitted was the start of our demise?

I think he was referring to the TO signing.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:50 PM

Throwing Banner under the bus

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:53 PM

I thought Danny Watkins was basically a Howard Mudd pick. .........

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:53 PM

The fact that he admitted an attorney is the best talent evaluator in the building tells you all you need to know about why this team is where it is right now.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:54 PM

View Postheyeaglefn, on 31 December 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

I don't know how Lurie can be confident that HR knows what he is doing, if he is just basing it on this past draft.  I guess he didn't want Watkins, but any idiot could have told you Watkins and other picks in 2011 were dumb.
Dude, did you read the OP? lol
Lurie kept a list of what person was responsible for what player on this team/draft. That pretty much nails it. And very smart of Lurie to make/keep a list

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:55 PM

View Postmike030270, on 31 December 2012 - 01:32 PM, said:

Check again. He said AR and Howie were responsible.
Yea but that was to protect Reid. Didnt want to completely slight him there. I think its safe to say that Howie had the most input... with Lurie's support.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:56 PM

View PostKOJO, on 31 December 2012 - 01:53 PM, said:

The fact that he admitted an attorney is the best talent evaluator in the building tells you all you need to know about why this team is where it is right now.
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