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[CMPunk]

There was frustration among Titans fans that Fisher couldn't win big games. He was fired and a replacement was hired. Jeff Fisher eventually got another job with the Rams.

Today, the Titans are a trainwreck and their new head coach is already on the hot seat. Meanwhile, the Rams look to be one of the leagues more promising teams for years to come.

[evilwaldo]

????????

[EagleJoe8]

Ok...

[TQC84]

Yeah, you're right. Andy Reid should have been signed to a 20 year extension since he is clearly the only coach that could ever have success with the Philadelphia Eagles. Upset that your big buddy is gone? I mean look what could happen. What about the 49ers and Colts though? How'd they do when they switched coaches? The coaching change  could be a success, it could be a failure, who knows. It was time to move on though, anyone could see that.

[ryguy552]

Rams aren't going anywhere anytime soon to be honest. I do like that Janoris Jenkins though. Great pick.

[dba042681]

[KOJO]

Fisher's another guy that had entirely too much job security for entirely too long. 17 years in one place with only 1 SB appearance is ludicrous.

[NOTW]

One example doesn't mean all other choices turn out the same.  Tomlin replaced Cowher and won exactly the same number of Superbowls.  So that example counters yours.

Most coaches don't work out, some do.  You never know, but you do know what you're getting with 14 years of Reid.  And when you see coaches winning a Superbowl within 5 years of being hired and they were relatively unknown coordinators and position coaches...you need to take a chance.

Reid made horrible, horrible decisions the last several years.  The team has declined to one of the worst teams in the league.  It's obviously time to make a change.

Deal with it.

[NorCalEagle]

so you're saying the eagles should have hired fisher last year?

[Footballman175]

ryguy552, on 31 December 2012 - 09:50 PM, said:

Rams aren't going anywhere anytime soon to be honest. I do like that Janoris Jenkins though. Great pick.

Disagree. That team looks dangerous. 2-3 years and they are a playoff team.

[ryguy552]

Footballman175, on 31 December 2012 - 11:19 PM, said:

Disagree. That team looks dangerous. 2-3 years and they are a playoff team.

Playoff team maybe. They will never be a serious Super Bowl contender though. Bradford seems to be on the down tick.

[Bdawk330]

Schtick is getting old Cmpunk....

[AceofSpades]

What bothers me is that the Titans fired an executive because Peyton Manning didn't wanna go there. Obviously I think playing against the Colts twice a year played a part in that. You can't be mad at somebody because a guy like Peyton Manning chooses to go elsewhere.

[Hey Suess]

Besides the obvious one on the top of your head, what's the point?

[RPeeteRules]

The Titans finished 6-10 while the Rams finished 7-8-1.  Both teams don't appear to be challenging for the top of the division any time soon with Houston/Indy in the AFC South and 49ers/Seahawks in the NFC West.

[Footballman175]

RPeeteRules, on 01 January 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:

The Titans finished 6-10 while the Rams finished 7-8-1.  Both teams don't appear to be challenging for the top of the division any time soon with Houston/Indy in the AFC South and 49ers/Seahawks in the NFC West.

Rams have Bradford, Daryl Richardson, Isaih Pead, Lance Kendricks, Chris Long, Michael Brockers, Robert Quinn, James Laurinitis, and not to mention probably one of the best CB tandems in the league Janoris Jenkins and Cortland Finnegan.

Throw in 4 1st Round Picks in the next 2 Years, i think it's fair to say their outlook is better than the Jake Locker-Led Titans

[RedskinsFan01]

The Broncos also fired Shanahan and hired Josh McDaniels who blew up their offense trading away Cutler and Marshall. He was gone after 2 years. Although the Broncos got lucky by winning the Peyton Manning sweepstakes to bail them out.

[Innocence096]

it is all about the next hire. sometimes you need to gamble to get out of the stagnant situation. It worked with the Bucs when they fired Dungy and traded for Gruden. Sure they were only good for that one year but I would take a superbowl and then mediocrity for a decade.

[ShakeThatMonkey]

Yeah it's risky when trying to find the next head coach but changes has to be made at some point.

Nothing last forever

[L.E.]

Wow, let it go man.

[RPeeteRules]

Footballman175, on 01 January 2013 - 08:22 PM, said:

Rams have Bradford, Daryl Richardson, Isaih Pead, Lance Kendricks, Chris Long, Michael Brockers, Robert Quinn, James Laurinitis, and not to mention probably one of the best CB tandems in the league Janoris Jenkins and Cortland Finnegan.

Throw in 4 1st Round Picks in the next 2 Years, i think it's fair to say their outlook is better than the Jake Locker-Led Titans

Their outlook is certainly better than the Titans, but part of the reason is because of how Fisher left the Titans.  Keep in mind that most of those guys that you mentioned were already on the Rams before Fisher got there.  If the Titans were able to get a real QB, their outlook would be much better.

[zenclaybourne]

RedskinsFan01, on 01 January 2013 - 08:32 PM, said:

The Broncos also fired Shanahan and hired Josh McDaniels who blew up their offense trading away Cutler and Marshall. He was gone after 2 years. Although the Broncos got lucky by winning the Peyton Manning sweepstakes to bail them out.

I was thinking of this as well, but ready to mention that John Fox turned them into a playoff team as soon as he showed up. Peyton has turned them into the top AFC team, but they won the division with Tebow the year before. Point is, getting rid of a good coach because he's run his course doesn't mean you'll never find another good one.

[pdmkob]

Titans got screwed by Chris Johnson - and I mean screwed! And their QB situation was pretty bleak - considering they were only a year removed from Kerry Collins. They also lost Van den Bosch and Fat Albert in free agency and Kevin Mahwei retired -

It was time to change

[HaroldTheSecond]

But in this warped world we live in, a "train wreck" is actually considered better than not being able to win the big games!

While who said it escapes me at the moment, if you come in last, they question your ability - while if you come in second, they question your heart.

[rocketman44]

It was time for Fisher. It was time for Reid. It was time for Cowher, too.

Sooner or later, it's just time. Time to go, time for a change.

The key thing is to manage the transition correctly. Tennessee doesn't seem to have done that. Munchak is 15-17, though he has been retained.

If the Eagles do this right, they can be good again and it shouldn't take long. There's potential for a quick turnaround.

[skippyx]

In 2002 the Bucs fired Dungy and brought in Gruden.
How did that season go for them?

In 1995 the Eagles fired Kotite and then Jets jumped on that coaching legend.
He went 4 and 28 for them.
Philly won a playoff game the next year and made the playoffs the year after.

Mora went 13-3 and 10-6 in Manning's 2nd and 3rd seasons.
Edge got hurt and the Colts fell to 6-10.
They fired that good coach and brought in Dungy.
Not really the worst move there, was it?

The Broncos played in 3 SBs under Reeves.
They decided 12 years was enough and moved on.
2 years of Phillips were nothing special so they tried again.
4 years later they were repeat champions.

Billick won a Super Bowl in 2000.
He won 5 playoff games.
He was 13-3 in 2006.
He got fired 9 years in after a 5-11 record in 2007.
The Ravens have won a playoff game every year since,


Hiring a bad coach is always a bad idea but keeping a bad (or worn out) coach is worse.

[pdmkob]

skippyx, on 02 January 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

In 2002 the Bucs fired Dungy and brought in Gruden.
How did that season go for them?

In 1995 the Eagles fired Kotite and then Jets jumped on that coaching legend.
He went 4 and 28 for them.
Philly won a playoff game the next year and made the playoffs the year after.

Mora went 13-3 and 10-6 in Manning's 2nd and 3rd seasons.
Edge got hurt and the Colts fell to 6-10.
They fired that good coach and brought in Dungy.
Not really the worst move there, was it?

The Broncos played in 3 SBs under Reeves.
They decided 12 years was enough and moved on.
2 years of Phillips were nothing special so they tried again.
4 years later they were repeat champions.

Billick won a Super Bowl in 2000.
He won 5 playoff games.
He was 13-3 in 2006.
He got fired 9 years in after a 5-11 record in 2007.
The Ravens have won a playoff game every year since,


Hiring a bad coach is always a bad idea but keeping a bad (or worn out) coach is worse.

All good points


But the Ravens really stands out - Billick is probably as overated as Grueden

[Dirty 30 Sucks]

it doesnt matter that you speak the truth and that you know Andy Reid god forbid, may have been a good football coach. Dont worry though, 3 head coaches from now in 5 years people will realize what they meant by be careful what you wish for.....

[bumpy93]

CMPunk, on 31 December 2012 - 09:31 PM, said:

There was frustration among Titans fans that Fisher couldn't win big games. He was fired and a replacement was hired. Jeff Fisher eventually got another job with the Rams.

Today, the Titans are a trainwreck and their new head coach is already on the hot seat. Meanwhile, the Rams look to be one of the leagues more promising teams for years to come.

thats what I said about the Eagles. We actually dont know how good we got/had it. Unless we get a top tier coach, we could be in shambles for years to come. All that if we hire the wrong coach

[Bdawk330]

bumpy93, on 03 January 2013 - 11:55 AM, said:

thats what I said about the Eagles. We actually dont know how good we got/had it. Unless we get a top tier coach, we could be in shambles for years to come. All that if we hire the wrong coach

We were in shambles the last two years with a "top tier coach" what is your point again?