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[macgregor]

I'm sorry for starting what I admit is a dumb thread. But I love how it exposes some idiots in the media (Mikey Miss). The word 'legend' does not require unanimous consent jackarses. I'm not a big Ronald Reagan fan. He sold some of our top hardware to a nation that is still our worst nightmare on the world stage. But that doesn't mean he's not a legend. Shefter should look for more intelligent radio hosts to speak to next time.

[GrahamCracker]

A legendary tenure would require a few SB wins and very dominant teams. Reid was a very good Coach at times but a far cry from legendary.

[Nitro276]

Given the choice.....would you rather have Reagan as our president or Reid as our Eagles head coach?

[AceofSpades]

Reid was a good coach but nothing great.

[bobbyuk]

I wouldn't say it was legendary--now, if he had managed to win at least the 3 SBs the Pats won, that would have been legendary. And a lot of fans say, yeah, but he rode JJ's coattails or the NFC East and the NFC itself was diluted and there weren't many outstanding coaches in the conference, to which I give this retort--

1. Jim Johnson was a very good DC in the regular season and in the first and second round of the playoffs--but when it came time for the NFCCG and SB--his defense was badly outcoached. St Louis ran that defense ragged in the 2nd half of the 02 NFCCG; he couldn't figure how to stop Gruden from passing fro a 2 TE set after they ran from it during the regular season; NE, after being down somewhat, screened his defense to death in the SB--and he was slow to react to the Cards change of game plan in the 09 NFCCG.

2. The other thing is Reid was not responsible for the mistakes of the other 15 franchises in the NFC--he didn't install all of the Cowboys coaches, he didn't install all of the Skins coaches, or the Falcons coaches, or the Bears coaches, etc. He took his team, played the teams that were on the schedule and won--it's that simple. Is it his fault that Jerry Jones changed coaches at least 4 times, or the Skins 3 times, or the Bears twice, etc.

[Eagles3785]

In Eagles coaching terms i would say he was legendary

BUT

as far as NFL terms go, he def was NOT

He did accomplish a hell of a lot more then any other eagles coach in the super bowl era including D Vermiel

[evilwaldo]

Eagles3785, on 02 January 2013 - 02:53 PM, said:

In Eagles coaching terms i would say he was legendary

BUT

as far as NFL terms go, he def was NOT

He did accomplish a hell of a lot more then any other eagles coach in the super bowl era including D Vermiel

This 100%.

[greenpassion]

it was good not legendary thats silly.

ironic but as much as we loved buddy and even vermiel i think if they did now what they did then we really wouldnt be that impressed

[L.E.]

Eagles3785, on 02 January 2013 - 02:53 PM, said:

In Eagles coaching terms i would say he was legendary

BUT

as far as NFL terms go, he def was NOT

He did accomplish a hell of a lot more then any other eagles coach in the super bowl era including D Vermiel

Basically what I was going to say. In Philly, sure. In the NFL, no.

[E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles]

If you are the winningest coach in the history of a franchise, it is a legendary run.  Sorry, but the wins speak for themselves.

[VaBeach_Eagle]

macgregor, on 02 January 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

Was Reid's tenure 'legendary?'

He fell 4 points short of legendary. Give him those 4 points and he probably still has a job right now.

[Baynit]

As far as NFL standards meh I dunno probably not, its debateable but im slightly lingering on the side of no.


As far as Eagle standards well yea no doubt.  I thought the way both Lurie and Reid handled money was pretty classy.  With "Andy Reid celebration day"  Lurie handing him a gameball and telling him something to the effect of he "cant wait to invite Andy back for his Eagle HOF induction".

[biglou22]

Legendary in Philly. My god yes. There should be no debate there. Reid did more in 12 years then a dozen prior coaches did combined in 40 friggen years.
Now his 1st 6 years could be talked about as incredible since only a handful of coaches in NFL ever were able to bring a team to 4 NFCCGs in 6 years. But winning that 1 SB would stop that.
And considering he was the 3rd fastest coach in NFL history to win 100 games, he certainly has many great things to talk about. But boy, his last 2-3 years were pretty ugly.
Legendary in reference to the greats in the NFL ??? Nope. Very good, but not close to legendary. Not close.

[Rodney_Zero]

I will say it first, he beat up a weak NFC East, oh wait,  has'nt Bellicheat done the same?

Very good HC, not great though, came close

[Runtherock]

NO

[Perforator]

Buddy gave us the house of pain game, the body bag game, the bounty bowl, and the fog bowl. Reid gave us heartburn. No, he wasn't legendary.

[FlyinBrian36-20]

no SB so no legendary status. Andy did well for a short period of time compared to his long tenure.

[dilluminati]

Perforator, on 02 January 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

Buddy gave us the house of pain game, the body bag game, the bounty bowl, and the fog bowl. Reid gave us heartburn. No, he wasn't legendary.

I'm sort of agreeing with you, some people confuse Andy with Buddy swagger
Was he good yes.
Legend?
No.
Even with allot of nostalgia and amnesia No.
Buddy wasn't Legendary but he was the start of the change of culture from just being losers
Nobody disputes Reid being a good coach in his day

[JRoy]

It was legendary. It's easy to see once you stop looking for the positives.

[stang8118]

What idiot would listen to Mike Miss? It pisses me off so much when Mike and Mike have him on as a guest to speak for the Philadelphia fan. That dude is so freakin clueless, and always has an agenda.

He'll take one quote out of context from some national guy, then make an entire show about it. Talk about boring radio.

[biglou22]

Perforator, on 02 January 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

Buddy gave us the house of pain game, the body bag game, the bounty bowl, and the fog bowl. Reid gave us heartburn. No, he wasn't legendary.

And Buddy won how many playoff games ??
Seriously, Buddy was a great DC and a horrendous head coach.

[McNabbIsGone]

macgregor, on 02 January 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

I'm not a big Ronald Reagan fan. He sold some of our top hardware to a nation that is still our worst nightmare on the world stage. But that doesn't mean he's not a legend.

Bill Clinton did much worse in the 90's. He gave away software & hardware to the Chinese. And as if that's not bad enough, Clinton & Madeline HALF-Bright gave $20 bil. to Kim Jong Arse-hole of N. Korea to give up his nuclear program. Kim laughed all the way to the bank and the porn store and kept his nukes. And then the Libs blame Bush for failing to stop Kim Jong A-hole!! Too funny . . . bottom line folks: both Dems and Repubs are corrupt. One need look no further than the "Fiscal Cliff" deal or the SuperStorm Sandy relief fund that stalled in congress recently. It's all about  THEM  and not the people or the country. Write it down, you heard it here first!

[FranklinFldEBUpper]

Buddy Ryan wasn't even with the Eagles when the "House of Pain" Game was played.

I was a Buddy fan at the time, but the guy's legend seems to have grown quite a bit over time.

[Runtherock]

Vermeil was legendary. Took a forever dog team, turned them into a NFC Champion with no draft picks. He didn't inherit the talent Reid did, he didn't have the draft picks to turn it around, and the team he took over was one of the very worst in the league and had been for some time. While some like to pretend we never won anything before Reid, that's simply not true. Rhodes won games, went to the playoffs, even won coach of the year. Buddy's teams had their moments as well. Vermeil took over a garbage franchise that had been that way for a looooong time, he changed the culture of the team, and along with the Flyers, changed a city of losers into winners.

[macgregor]

McNabbIsGone, on 02 January 2013 - 08:36 PM, said:

Bill Clinton did much worse in the 90's. He gave away software & hardware to the Chinese. And as if that's not bad enough, Clinton & Madeline HALF-Bright gave $20 bil. to Kim Jong Arse-hole of N. Korea to give up his nuclear program. Kim laughed all the way to the bank and the porn store and kept his nukes. And then the Libs blame Bush for failing to stop Kim Jong A-hole!! Too funny . . . bottom line folks: both Dems and Repubs are corrupt. One need look no further than the "Fiscal Cliff" deal or the SuperStorm Sandy relief fund that stalled in congress recently. It's all about  THEM  and not the people or the country. Write it down, you heard it here first!

So that of course means Reagan didn't sell Iran 1000s of guided missiles. Oh but a democrat gave N Korea food so it offsets! And Clinton is a legend too! And what have I learned beside that you're an indoctrinated Glenn Beck fan? Nothing. Let's make this political now. You know where this ends? Right here. Talk to the hand.

[Eaglesdude55]

Once we stop looking at what he has done for us lately and look at his career as a whole, yeah he will be considered legendary.

[InfiniteSeriesN]

Nitro276, on 02 January 2013 - 02:17 PM, said:

Given the choice.....would you rather have Reagan as our president or Reid as our Eagles head coach?

reid.

hell i'd take kotite or marty as the HC over having that troll reagan as prez.

[dilluminati]

biglou22, on 02 January 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

And Buddy won how many playoff games ??
Seriously, Buddy was a great DC and a horrendous head coach.

you never questioned the players passion on a buddy team
This year I saw soft players
at least show up and give an effort

[#99]

Legendary: Lombardi, Landry, Noll, Johnson, Shula, Belichick, probably a few more I'm missing but not many.

Reid?  Not even close.

Eagle Legend?  Sure why not.

I'm not a Reid fan and could try to make an agrument that hes a bit of a fraud, but I enjoyed most of his years here and a heartbreaking game or two isn't as bad as a season I couldn't care less about.  Sure that was this year, but in my lifetime there were a lot more.  He's one of the best coaches in a franchise that is historically a joke, so take it for whats it worth.  Nothing really to celebrate about.

One thing that I will always stand by is that he did not save this franchise from anything, we were a decent team from the time Buddy was here through this year, those were not the worst years of this franchise.  I've seen much, much worse.

[kb420]

As a head coach in the NFL,  this is what makes you a legend...................