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[BleedingGreen93]

Woody....who wouldn't take Sheldon Brown he was the most underrated CB and he was a great all around player.

[danga]

DRC is nowhere near the playmaker Asante was...not even close. Great speed, great athleticism but no ball awareness....like none.

[jwood5151]

>>DDD: Out from under the "innovation" mandate of Lurie, AR may plan and scheme more like Holmgren...who loved the ground game. I don't see AR staying at 80% pass-20% run ratios. However, if he hires Mornhinweg and NOT Childress....I'll know his true colors. You see I think Lurie enjoyed the 50 pass attempt games. I think Lurie has a strategy to exploit the softening rules in the NFL and he thinks at that level. Like looking for the next "tax loophole". Was MM Lurie's creature or Reid's...we shall soon see

[cunninghamtheman]

Wood you are taking the pure negative of AS. He also was a great motivator. He made DJax give his all in practice. He had that swagger that defensive guys just have to have. There was no swagger on this D. No confidence that when it was clutch time they were going to make a play. And yes he could make that Int. and looked to return it. This defense lacked playmakers. DRC is not a playmaker. He has the skills to get himself in position but fails to make the play. In this game so much comes down to how can you perform under pressure...in the clutch. That's when DRC seems to fade.

[DDD1952]

Reports are saying AR wants Heckert brought in as GM for KC.

[BleedingGreen93]

It's hard to judge DRC playmaking ability he is stuck playing the man coverage(and press)  which isn't the easiest way make turnovers(revis Ike taylor etc are other ex.)....Lets DRC start playing more zone and off man etc(when we get rid of nnamdi) I think we will see him make more plays like early on when he was with the Cards.

[BleedingGreen93]

The S play could also affect in some degree the CB play because even AS couldn't get turnovers in 2011 working with Coleman and Allen

[jhop]

3d...I said all along AR would either go to KC or SD.  I think he goes to KC actually

[cunninghamtheman]

He couldn't make plays in the slot. He was actually horrible there. He couldn't get it done in press. Sorry but it sounds like you are slightly being a fanboy of a DRC. Now you believe if he can just get in zone he can be great. Let's face it he is a coach killer. Incredible talent but underachiever.

[DDD1952]

jhop, on 03 January 2013 - 12:15 PM, said:

3d...I said all along AR would either go to KC or SD.  I think he goes to KC actually

the reports say AR has an interview scheduled for SD...but has interviewed for over 9 hours with KC.

haha...93...you fanboy...

[BleedingGreen93]

Name me a press man CB that can that gets **** load of turnovers...And DRC never played the slot before it is completely different from outside CB of course he struggle it was stupid for the coaches to play him there. DRC should have been like AS and said no but he didn't because he is a team guy he didn't complain either when they benched him playing slot

[cunninghamtheman]

It's hard to judge anyone too harshly with the scrum defense that was being played. I believe a corner can be held responsible more than most

[BleedingGreen93]

I'm sorry 16ints and 4tds in 5yrs means DRC has some playmaking ability

[phillyphanwest]

Looking back at the last couple seasons, we haven't had any 'Great' defensive players. Good yes, great?-No. DRC is good but to me, not 'Great'. A good corner can break up a pass, a great corner takes the ball away. I'm not just picking on the CB's either. We've had many turnover opportunities that vanished because we only had 'good' players. The great ones seize that opportunity-they see things happening BEFORE they happen and react. Our guys have had something in their hands (figuratively) and watched as they fell to ashes. Mediocrity and complacency have become entrenched here for the last two seasons.

[BleedingGreen93]

Cunningham...your judgin DRC pretty harshly when he played good football he didn't allow many pass completitions his way and he rarely let up Tds....He also finished the season with 3ints the same amount as AS his last season with the eagles interesting lol

[cunninghamtheman]

Why are you asking for other CBs? You watched DRC drop so many interceptions this year. Why don't we just look at those? How about making that tackle? Or dare we actually dream of a corner who attacks the ball? Punchs it out? Creates turnovers?

[phillyphanwest]

Also-I am really tired of the excuses made for the secondary. "He's not used to playing that way" "He was isn't his 'comfort zone' position" "He expected safety help" "Press vs. man" blah blah blah. Your safety has been missing assignments and not doing his job. A great player would expect that and adjust accordingly. It's almost as if NA let Coleman fail time and again just to point his finger and say "See? It's not me messing up!" Good players. NOT great players.

C-Ham>>Your post exemplifies the 'good vs. great' point I'm making.

[cunninghamtheman]

Now I will say you have to respect the outside. That was Nnamdi's job it seemed most of the time. The safety has to have some kind of awareness that people are going out for a pass. If the safety is in position that could allow the corner to just concentrate on making a play. Nnamdi did pout an awful lot out there this season

[BleedingGreen93]

There is a new article....But to answer your point Cunningham like PPW said DRC is a good CB not great(could be though) and it is hard to come by good CB in the NFL....I'd rather have a Cb that can knock down passes then one that lets up passes

[cunninghamtheman]

Westy I'm just struggling to even attach good to DRC's play

[phillyphanwest]

Nnamdi DID pout instead of upping his own game to meet the needs of the team. I desire to see the new HC take these things into consideration and weed out the slackers. Yes, our safeties leave a lot to be desired. If it's so obvious to us armchairs, why does it seem to be so overlooked by those who can change it? The same could be said for almost every position this year.

I'll give him credit for being good but good doesn't cut it in today's league. As far as DRC's potential goes, if the regime can get that out of him then great! If not then, kick rocks.

[jwood5151]

>>C-ham: I am NOT disliking Asante Samuel. In fact, I am giving him complete credit for predicting the demise of the eagles defense with Roseman and Castillo. Just stating he is a very strong personality for good or bad. As he didn't like the way Roseman and Reid were sailing the ship, they put him off the boat.

As it turn out, the ship sunk.

Think that pretty much proves that Samuel's hints to the press about "cut & paste" GM were on target.

[BleedingGreen93]

Can I know what you guys judge a good CB on????

DRC needs to get better in some area's no doubt making the easy catches etc,tackling could be helped some(has been better last few weeks) but in the coverage part he has been good if not great he doesn't allow many completition and last I checked that was the main purpose for the CB to not let the WR catch the ball

[phillyphanwest]

To me, NA was the more lacking CB. I look at things like; adaptability-the play or the coverage has broken down and a guy steps up to salvage the play, accountability-taking responsibility for YOURSELF not pointing fingers, playmaking abilities-either our guys didn't have it or chose not to showcase it. It's not just INT's. It's the ability to make an OC think twice about throwing toward a guy or running a play his way. A player that makes an impact at that level.

[jhop]

bg93...i'm with ya.  DRC has major upside as compared to Nnamdi...younger and cost's less.  Not saying DRC is great, but he could be a fine enough CB to start here for a few years.  An improved scheme should help everyone on our D

[phillyphanwest]

I'm not saying get rid of DRC but he needs to step his game up a notch or two. Like Hopper says, a new scheme SHOULD help everybody. Nnamdi can just go. BG has been saying for quite a while that there needs to be more positional competition-I think we ALL see that. There's a better CB than Nnamdi out there and it's up to the new guy to find him and bring it out of him. A quite possible goal.

[whole9]

DRC and Nnamdi need to go!  We could do better at CB.