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#31 CMPunk

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 06:04 PM

View PostEagleJoe8, on 08 January 2013 - 05:54 PM, said:



Wendell Davis. I remember that game.

Looked him up. He was on the 49ers coaching staff when our fans threw snowballs at the Niners bench a few years ago. He must really hate the city of Philadelphia :lol:

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 07:53 PM

View PostHarborTheClay, on 07 January 2013 - 11:56 PM, said:

You can only do so much for a football field into January. What do you want them to do? Crap does happen. Knee jerk reactions.

I think that's why the OP is saying the NFL should standardize field surfaces.

View PostIggles, on 08 January 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

After Baltimore, and Cincinatti built new stadiums, they used grass.  Within a couple years, they switched to FieldTurf.  Gillette (New England) has always been FieldTurf.  I wonder why Pittsburgh, DC, and Philly haven't caught on that grass fields get punished by December?

As for ACL injuries, nothing will ever top the Chicago Bear DB who blew out both knees on the same play at the VET in 1993.

Actually Gillette switched to Field Turf within the last 7-8 years right after having a sloppy game on a muddy field.

I'm also confused as to why the Eagles haven't switched to turf. With as much as the Linc gets used, turf would be much better for it. Kinda tired of seeing the dirt & rock that gets painted green in December.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 08:04 PM

View PostAceofSpades, on 08 January 2013 - 07:53 PM, said:

I'm also confused as to why the Eagles haven't switched to turf. With as much as the Linc gets used, turf would be much better for it. Kinda tired of seeing the dirt & rock that gets painted green in December.
I seem to recall the Eagles having some kind of hybrid that had synthetic grass woven into the field with the real grass... or am I just making that up in my mind?

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 08:07 PM

View PostVaBeach_Eagle, on 08 January 2013 - 08:04 PM, said:

I seem to recall the Eagles having some kind of hybrid that had synthetic grass woven into the field with the real grass... or am I just making that up in my mind?

I think you are correct.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 08:10 PM

View PostVaBeach_Eagle, on 08 January 2013 - 08:04 PM, said:

I seem to recall the Eagles having some kind of hybrid that had synthetic grass woven into the field with the real grass... or am I just making that up in my mind?

http://www.1stturf.com/systems.htm

Grass Master

Earning Professional Football Field of the Year and Professional Soccer Field of the Year in 2006 for the Grass Master system installed at Invesco Field/Mile High Stadium are just some of the accolades garnered by this unique system combining a natural grass surface with a synthetic turf root-zone. Grass-Master permits the more intensive use of a grass-system over a wider climatic range. Installations include Invesco Field, Heinz Field (Steelers) Lincoln Financial Field (Eagles) and the Green Bay Packers practice facility.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 08:13 PM

View PostEagleJoe8, on 08 January 2013 - 08:07 PM, said:

I think you are correct.
Yeah...

http://en.wikipedia..../DD_GrassMaster

View PostNorCalEagle, on 08 January 2013 - 08:10 PM, said:

http://www.1stturf.com/systems.htm

Grass Master

Earning Professional Football Field of the Year and Professional Soccer Field of the Year in 2006 for the Grass Master system installed at Invesco Field/Mile High Stadium are just some of the accolades garnered by this unique system combining a natural grass surface with a synthetic turf root-zone. Grass-Master permits the more intensive use of a grass-system over a wider climatic range. Installations include Invesco Field, Heinz Field (Steelers) Lincoln Financial Field (Eagles) and the Green Bay Packers practice facility.
I wish LFF would be halfway decent, but I guess with Temple and the Eagles playing in it at the same time, it's hard to keep up.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:23 PM

Philly and Pitt -- both grass -- had fields in WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY better shape than Wash did at the end of this season.

Wash field was frickin' high school like.  The condition of it was horrible, especially for an NFL Playoff game.

A hundred million dollar franchise can't put down a better player surface than that crap?? SERIOUSLY???!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:49 AM

View PostIggles, on 08 January 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

After Baltimore, and Cincinatti built new stadiums, they used grass.  Within a couple years, they switched to FieldTurf.  Gillette (New England) has always been FieldTurf.  I wonder why Pittsburgh, DC, and Philly haven't caught on that grass fields get punished by December?

As for ACL injuries, nothing will ever top the Chicago Bear DB who blew out both knees on the same play at the VET in 1993.

Gillette was also grass early on but went to Field Turf a few years later (Jets actually beat the Pats in Gillette in the last game on grass in that stadium).

Actually, I believe the Linc has some artificial fibers mixed in with its grass.  That has kept the Linc in relatively good shape, especially since the Eagles share the Linc with Temple plus the Army-Navy game is played there of course.  I've never seen the Linc anywhere remotely as bad as FedEx Field was on Sunday.


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:54 AM

View Postcmart102, on 08 January 2013 - 05:54 PM, said:

No, it doesn't with proper care, especially if you heat the field. I feel like I'm having deja vu, maybe you want to read earlier in the thread where I talked about Lambeau?

Philadelphia, and Washington aren't as north as Green Bay Wisconsin!  You can heat a field during a nor'easter rain event, and you still get slop.  Heat is not the issue, it's the rain!  When college, HS, and pro teams play on the same field during rainy conditions, the field gets destroyed.  The question you need to ask is how good is the drainage system of Fed Ex/Linc/Heinz?   Since the Phillies play inbetween downpours, they have an excellent drainage system at Citizens Bank.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:02 PM

View Postcmart102, on 08 January 2013 - 12:26 AM, said:

Dude that field is a disgrace. Lambeau is in the coldest environment in the league yet has spectacular turf.

Watching the game, nobody in the room could get over how bad the field before a playoff game looked.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:11 PM

View PostIggles, on 08 January 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

After Baltimore, and Cincinatti built new stadiums, they used grass.  Within a couple years, they switched to FieldTurf.  Gillette (New England) has always been FieldTurf.  I wonder why Pittsburgh, DC, and Philly haven't caught on that grass fields get punished by December?

As for ACL injuries, nothing will ever top the Chicago Bear DB who blew out both knees on the same play at the VET in 1993.
that one I know is false. I remember the NFL having to step in because they would let the weather destroy the turf during the playoffs to slow down Peyton Manning and the Colts.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:14 PM

Grass was originally kept at the Linc due to Westbrook's knees ... now that he's gone, don't know why they haven't switched.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:31 AM

View Postckudrick, on 11 January 2013 - 10:14 PM, said:

Grass was originally kept at the Linc due to Westbrook's knees ... now that he's gone, don't know why they haven't switched.
They use a hybrid mixture, not just grass.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:45 AM

I always thought the Eagles should have just put natural grass in the vet, but now they could have that fake s*** they use with rubber.

I miss the vet :(

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:51 AM

View PostShocker54, on 12 January 2013 - 01:45 AM, said:

I always thought the Eagles should have just put natural grass in the vet, but now they could have that fake s*** they use with rubber.

I miss the vet :(

Outside of the Seahawks and Cardinals, I think every team misses their old stadium. The Cowboys have yet to win anything in that mall down in Arlington.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 03:53 AM

http://www.usatoday....-field/1822003/


Well, the NFLPA apparently agrees: FedEx Field sucks arse.


They're calling for an upgrade.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 09:00 AM

View PostIggles, on 08 January 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

After Baltimore, and Cincinatti built new stadiums, they used grass.  Within a couple years, they switched to FieldTurf.  Gillette (New England) has always been FieldTurf.  I wonder why Pittsburgh, DC, and Philly haven't caught on that grass fields get punished by December?

As for ACL injuries, nothing will ever top the Chicago Bear DB who blew out both knees on the same play at the VET in 1993.
It was Wendell Davis, a wide receiver and it was both of his patella tendons not his acls.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 04:32 PM

View PostHarborTheClay, on 07 January 2013 - 11:56 PM, said:

You can only do so much for a football field into January. What do you want them to do? Crap does happen. Knee jerk reactions.

field was unplayable looked like soldier field out there.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 04:43 PM

View PostDirty 30 Sucks, on 12 January 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

field was unplayable looked like soldier field out there.
Yeah, with the NFL and NFLPA as well as a lot of others questioning the field, I guess it wasn't such "knee jerk reaction"...

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 10:12 PM

Snyder continues to be the worst owner in the NFL.

Give up 3 first rounders and a 2nd for a QB and then break him with cheap landscaping.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:11 PM

View PostShocker54, on 12 January 2013 - 01:45 AM, said:

I always thought the Eagles should have just put natural grass in the vet, but now they could have that fake s*** they use with rubber.

I miss the vet :(

Eagles field isn't a truly grass field.  It's grass mixed in with synthetics (about 10% or so on synthetics I believe).  That's why it holds up better in bad weather like it does.  If the Jets/Giants wanted to install grass in MetLife Stadium, they would likely copy how the Eagles do it.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:43 PM

View PostVaBeach_Eagle, on 08 January 2013 - 01:02 AM, said:

Something tells me that if this had happened to Shady, the kid wouldn't be saying "crap happens".
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