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[Rome]

So let me get this straight... Jeffrey is looking for a visionary leader.  He's looking for someone young and bold and exciting; someone who can take the reigns of the organization and lead it for a decade into the future.

And he interviews Lovie Smith.

Nothing against Coach Smith (other than the fact that he's actually a less successful version of the oaf they just fired) but he doesn't exactly fit the bill here, now does he?

If he hires a guy like Lovie Smith the Eagles are basically in danger of falling into the ranks of the Buffalo Bills and (ironically enough) the Cleveland Browns.

So, for the record...

DO.  NOT.  WANT.

Just one (season ticket holding) fan's perspective, Dave.

[VaBeach_Eagle]

No, not really. They were just kidding...

[lb7]

You are talking out of your arse on this one Rome. Lovie Smith is an excellent coach and with the proper front office will do very well here. Do some hard reading about the man, and what his reputation is, I think you might change your mind.

[Runtherock]

He's not my first choice but I have no problem with the interview. One of the best D coaches in the game. As a head coach won 3 Division Championships and a NFC Championship, and significantly, he did it as part of a bad organization, bad ownership, and a bad GM. Lovie's teams have always had good defenses and good special teams. If he can get a good O coordinator, something I'm sure Howie and Lurie would insist on, he could win a championship. I also like the fact that he's a moral man who doesn't lie at every single freaking opportunity. He's a good man. That would be a nice change.

[Rome]

lb7, on 08 January 2013 - 07:32 PM, said:

You are talking out of your arse on this one Rome. Lovie Smith is an excellent coach and with the proper front office will do very well here. Do some hard reading about the man, and what his reputation is, I think you might change your mind.

Three playoff appearances in nine seasons and one playoff win since 2006.

Oh, yeah... let's sign him up before he gets away!

[Runtherock]

Rome, on 08 January 2013 - 07:39 PM, said:

Three playoff appearances in nine seasons and one playoff win since 2006.

Oh, yeah... let's sign him up before he gets away!

He's a good coach man, not bad with Jerry Angelo as your GM. Lovie isn't my first choice but he's definitely a guy who should be interviewed.

[VaBeach_Eagle]

The Bears aren't exactly in a pushover division, so I wouldn't necessarily hold his playoff record against him. Not saying I want him, but you have to look at what his competition was.

[CT Eagle]

I only hope they are gauging his interest in the DC job if they hire a young HC without defensive experience that may not have a list of viable DC candidates for his new staff.

I like Lovie but I don't see him being able to put our offense and a young qb on the right track.

[Rome]

Some of you want a guy who has one playoff appearance in the last six years coaching this team.  ONE.

I just... wow.

[CaliEagle]

Lovie is a defensive clone of Andy Reid.  He would be a cop out hire. The front office would be giving us all the same gobbledy-goop that KC is giving its fans about the "success"  of Andy Reid. Andy and Lovie will always find a way to field a team that is competitive, but it will always have a flaw that good teams can exploit. Lovie would be no upgrade.  Take a chance on a younger coach who can motivate and has an awareness to build a winner on both sides of the ball.

[Runtherock]

Rome, on 08 January 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

Some of you want a guy who has one playoff appearance in the last six years coaching this team.  ONE.

I just... wow.

As opposed to Chip Kelly, or Marrone, or Bradley, or O'Brien who have had zero playoff appearances as NFL head coaches. Lovie Smith is a good NFL head coach. He has proven that. He has a winning record as a NFL head coach. He has gone to the Super Bowl as a NFL head coach and another time as a D coordinator. He won 3 division championships. He was fired with a 10 and 6 record and did it all with a bad organization. I'm not saying he's the answer, I'm not saying he'd be my first choice, but not to interviewing him would be ridiculous.

[badmeetsevil]

Yeah not my first choice but what is the harm in interviewing him?

Ultimately he might be one of these guys who is best as a coordinator, but if they do hire him at least our defense should be much better. He never did get the offense in Chicago fixed and that is pretty worrisome.

[Highboy]

He's not the first choice like some said but its not that cut and dry this "only 3 playoff appearances in 9 seasons". That had a lot more to do than Lovie, who didn't draft that crap QBs he was stuck with, still put together a top defense to contend with, and it wasn't he that traded away practically entire drafts to get Cutler.

Interviewing him is absolutely the right and responsible thing to do when looking for a coach. D Vermeil had similar results as Lovie didn't he? Then went to St. Louis and won a SB.

[mjkvol]

He would break my 'no retreads' rule, but all I know is that Lovie would be a major upgrade over what we had. He seems to believe in solid. fundamental football, and would immediately upgrade our defense.

Just get a legitimate OC to come in with him, and we could do a hell of a lot worse.      Like Jay Gruden.

[CT Eagle]

mjkvol, on 08 January 2013 - 09:33 PM, said:

but all I know is that Lovie would be a major upgrade over what we had.  
     Just get a legitimate OC to come in with him, and we could do a hell of a lot worse.   Like Jay Gruden.

Look at Lovie's record.  I think major upgrade is a huge overstatement.  I also would say that Lovie is offensively challenged.
Why would Jay Gruden quit Cincy as an OC to take the same job here ?

[Runtherock]

CT Eagle, on 08 January 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

Look at Lovie's record.  I think major upgrade is a huge overstatement.  I also would say that Lovie is offensively challenged.
Why would Jay Gruden quit Cincy as an OC to take the same job here ?

He's an NFL head coach with a winning record, division championships, an NFC championship, just had a 10 and 6 season, and did it all for a bad organization. This is the type of guy who could take it to the next level with a better organization. Not my first choice, not my second, but not a horrible candidate or anything close to it.

[Hank_TheBody_Fraley]

I can't hate on Lovie.

But I could hate on Lurie and Howie all day long. I'll kiss their feet if they bring home a bowl...until then, they've done nothing.

[CT Eagle]

Runtherock, on 08 January 2013 - 11:03 PM, said:

He's an NFL head coach with a winning record, division championships, an NFC championship, just had a 10 and 6 season, and did it all for a bad organization. This is the type of guy who could take it to the next level with a better organization. Not my first choice, not my second, but not a horrible candidate or anything close to it.

If the Bears are a bad organization, what are the Eagles ?

[egforever]

CT Eagle, on 09 January 2013 - 10:28 AM, said:

If the Bears are a bad organization, what are the Eagles ?

Just a knats a** better.

[PhillyPhan13]

ok, I'll say it.  Is Lovie simply a Rooney Rule canidate?  Or have the Eagles already met that "requirement?"

[Rome]

Major upgrade.

WTF

[mjkvol]

CT Eagle, on 08 January 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

Look at Lovie's record.  I think major upgrade is a huge overstatement.  I also would say that Lovie is offensively challenged.
Why would Jay Gruden quit Cincy as an OC to take the same job here ?

I meant that Jay Gruden would be a whole lot worse than Lovie.

Hiring him would be contingent on the OC.

[Rome]

Runtherock, on 08 January 2013 - 11:03 PM, said:

He's an NFL head coach with a winning record, division championships, an NFC championship, just had a 10 and 6 season, and did it all for a bad organization. This is the type of guy who could take it to the next level with a better organization. Not my first choice, not my second, but not a horrible candidate or anything close to it.

You just described Andy in 2010.  GET!!!

Look, ifthey hire him and he turns in Tom Coughlin and wins two Lombardi's then I'll gladly eat my words.

They won't, he won't, so it's moot.

[mav81]

PhillyPhan13, on 09 January 2013 - 01:13 PM, said:

ok, I'll say it.  Is Lovie simply a Rooney Rule canidate?  Or have the Eagles already met that "requirement?"

Already met it with Keith Armstrong

[Highboy]

Rome, on 09 January 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

You just described Andy in 2010.  GET!!!

Look, ifthey hire him and he turns in Tom Coughlin and wins two Lombardi's then I'll gladly eat my words.

They won't, he won't, so it's moot.

D Vermeil had almost identical success as Lovie (or lack thereof) in Philly. He went to St. Louis and won a SB. Mike Ditka meanwhile had one of the all time great SB teams, then went to New Orleans and sucked a**. See how that works? DIfferent organisations, different GMS, different personnel guys, different ownership, it all makes a huge difference. Pretty much anyone in football realise Lovie was a very good coach working with a terrible GM in Jerry Angelo.

[Runtherock]

Rome, on 09 January 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

You just described Andy in 2010.  GET!!!

Look, ifthey hire him and he turns in Tom Coughlin and wins two Lombardi's then I'll gladly eat my words.

They won't, he won't, so it's moot.

Lovie and Reid are very very different. Lovie is moral man who won't lie about anything and everything, for one, and he is the opposite of arrogant. Lovie also finished strong at his last team, while Reid has shown all indication of being a shot fighter.

[NorCalEagle]

Runtherock, on 09 January 2013 - 06:37 PM, said:

Lovie is moral man who won't lie about anything and everything

lolz

[DaveSpadaro]

I don't think anybody said the next head coach had to be young ... but I got the message.

[CT Eagle]

Highboy, on 08 January 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:

He's not the first choice like some said but its not that cut and dry this "only 3 playoff appearances in 9 seasons". That had a lot more to do than Lovie, who didn't draft that crap QBs he was stuck with, still put together a top defense to contend with, and it wasn't he that traded away practically entire drafts to get Cutler.

If he didn't draft the crap QB's, he also didn't put together a top defense with Urlackerz and Briggs et al.....

[bfisher01]

Highboy, on 08 January 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:

He's not the first choice like some said but its not that cut and dry this "only 3 playoff appearances in 9 seasons". That had a lot more to do than Lovie, who didn't draft that crap QBs he was stuck with, still put together a top defense to contend with, and it wasn't he that traded away practically entire drafts to get Cutler.

Interviewing him is absolutely the right and responsible thing to do when looking for a coach. D Vermeil had similar results as Lovie didn't he? Then went to St. Louis and won a SB.

and if we had hired vermeil rather than reid (it was all over that he was all but hired) we'd have a superbowl finally!!!!!!!!!!!!