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[Moe_Green]

the guy has been heaped with praise and i certainly wouldn't complain if he were hired. I haven't noticed a lot of other teams mentioned in talks with him. anyone know if other teams are seeking interviews wth Gus?. it seems strange that we're the only team being mentioned as having interest, unless i'm wrong about that. anyone know?

[pgcd3]

No reports of other teams seeking interviews

[Moe_Green]

should that be concerning in any way. i mean the media sure has hyped him up. and he has done a hell of a job turning that defense around. you'd think there would be interest.

[knapp_nick]

i fear gus is all hype right now.. everyone thinks bc monte kiffin says good things about him hes gonna be some great coach..

[forevereagles]

Maybe the  media outlets aren't as hot in Seattle, as much as they are here in Philly.

[PrinceKelby]

knapp_nick, on 09 January 2013 - 11:51 AM, said:

i fear gus is all hype right now.. everyone thinks bc monte kiffin says good things about him hes gonna be some great coach..

apparently you have not seen the turnaround he has done with the Seattle defense. . . .

[knapp_nick]

PrinceKelby, on 09 January 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

apparently you have not seen the turnaround he has done with the Seattle defense. . . .

i think pete has alot to do with that.. i also read on here (which doesnt mean a lot) that the 2ndary coach deserves most of the credit.. gus is basically a play caller

[ryguy552]

It's a fair question. That would be my one concern. Don't know why other teams aren't interviewing him.

[PrinceKelby]

knapp_nick, on 09 January 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

i think pete has alot to do with that.. i also read on here (which doesnt mean a lot) that the 2ndary coach deserves most of the credit.. gus is basically a play caller

He's also been touted as one of the best teachers of the game by Kiffin and Carrol.  So he gets 0 credit for adjusting his defense against Washington last week?  When is a position coach more responsible for the overall defensive play than the DC???

What planet is that from???  So him taking a rookie MLB and making him one of the best LB's in the game year 1. . .turned around Chris Clemons career etc. . .but he doesn't get credit for that.

Seriously do more homework to draw your conclusions rather than just shooting from the hip.  Carrol has given almost all the defensive credit to Bradley.

[knapp_nick]

PrinceKelby, on 09 January 2013 - 01:12 PM, said:

He's also been touted as one of the best teachers of the game by Kiffin and Carrol.  So he gets 0 credit for adjusting his defense against Washington last week?  When is a position coach more responsible for the overall defensive play than the DC???

What planet is that from???  So him taking a rookie MLB and making him one of the best LB's in the game year 1. . .turned around Chris Clemons career etc. . .but he doesn't get credit for that.

Seriously do more homework to draw your conclusions rather than just shooting from the hip.  Carrol has given almost all the defensive credit to Bradley.

clemons was pretty good when he got to seattle.. and changing the gameplan to beat RGIII!?? get real dude rgIII had no business being out there after he reaggrivated his knee on the 2nd TD drive..

so where has the gus hype been the last few years.. no one had heard of him until a month ago at the most..  

and no one else has yet to say they want to interview him.. thats a red flag

[SilverChaosVII]

The number one thing that every coach says about him - he is the best teacher they have ever seen.

That's what I want in a head coach. All the rest is an added bonus.

Scheme design will have a lot to do with who he would choose as coordinators. That's all up in the air.

What we know is that we would get a guy that seems to be a great defensive mind, is loved by his players, is a leader and can teach the players.

[The_Talon]

I would roll the dice on the guy for 3 years. If we're not moving forward in 2 years and competitive by the 3rd you know it could be time to move on.

[AceofSpades]

Moe_Green, on 09 January 2013 - 11:36 AM, said:

the guy has been heaped with praise and i certainly wouldn't complain if he were hired. I haven't noticed a lot of other teams mentioned in talks with him. anyone know if other teams are seeking interviews wth Gus?. it seems strange that we're the only team being mentioned as having interest, unless i'm wrong about that. anyone know?

Eagles are the only team to request an interview with him. Honestly that's the way I like it. The other teams that currently have vacancies (possible Jacksonville will be included by the end of the week), it appears they're gonna look to an offensive minded head coach. So that bodes well for the Eagles in their possible pursuit.

[time2rock]

knapp_nick, on 09 January 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

clemons was pretty good when he got to seattle.. and changing the gameplan to beat RGIII!?? get real dude rgIII had no business being out there after he reaggrivated his knee on the 2nd TD drive..

so where has the gus hype been the last few years.. no one had heard of him until a month ago at the most..  

and no one else has yet to say they want to interview him.. thats a red flag

He had a top 10 defense in 2011 as well.

[PrinceKelby]

knapp_nick, on 09 January 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

clemons was pretty good when he got to seattle.. and changing the gameplan to beat RGIII!?? get real dude rgIII had no business being out there after he reaggrivated his knee on the 2nd TD drive..

so where has the gus hype been the last few years.. no one had heard of him until a month ago at the most..  

and no one else has yet to say they want to interview him.. thats a red flag

Yeah Clemons was just AWESOME here before he got there. . .

Yes RGIII wasn't 100% but 63 yards in the 2nd half you have to give the guy SOME kind of credit I mean good god man.

If you follow the NFL you would have heard of him more than a month ago so don't assume that others don't simply because you haven't.

So AR was a bad hire since sooooooo many teams had him on their radar when he was hired as well I guess. . .

Forget the fact that he's revamped one of the WORST defenses in the league to one of the best in a few seasons. . .sounds like something that drastically needs to happen here. . .

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“He’s the best teacher I’ve ever been around,” Carroll said. “He’s so thorough, so thoughtful, and he’ll go to such lengths to find ways to make sense of the information so the guys can understand it in practical ways.
“It doesn’t matter how good we teach. It’s how well they learn. I think that connection is really clear with Gus. He’s great at it.”

On a team so fundamentally flawed due to gadget crap on both sides of the ball I think this mindset towards coaching is something that is needed.

[knapp_nick]

kiffin and pete saying good things about gus to the media is great.. but its like your wife asking you if she looks fat in something.. you are going to say no, no matter what..

kiffin and pete arent gonna say anything bad about him in public

look i know some people love him and he could lead this team very well.. but right now i just think he has a hype train moving in the right direction good for him.. mid way through the season no one was tslking about him.. all of a sudden Sea wins 4 or 5 games in row and the dude is the next great coach

i dont buy it

[AceofSpades]

knapp_nick, on 09 January 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

kiffin and pete saying good things about gus to the media is great.. but its like your wife asking you if she looks fat in something.. you are going to say no, no matter what..

kiffin and pete arent gonna say anything bad about him in public

look i know some people love him and he could lead this team very well.. but right now i just think he has a hype train moving in the right direction good for him.. mid way through the season no one was tslking about him.. all of a sudden Sea wins 4 or 5 games in row and the dude is the next great coach

i dont buy it

You also weren't completely convinced Chip Kelly was going back Oregon even after Schefter & crew reported it.

With that said, it's a good endorsement when your boss calls another coach and tells him he should hire the guy as his defensive coordinator even when he was a defensive coach himself. It's also a ringing endorsement for Pete Carroll to retain him even when he's a defensive coach himself and gave him control of the defense.

[knapp_nick]

PrinceKelby, on 09 January 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

Yeah Clemons was just AWESOME here

i think he went the pro bowl with the raiders before SEA got him

[knapp_nick]

AceofSpades, on 09 January 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

You also weren't completely convinced Chip Kelly was going back Oregon even after Schefter & crew reported it.

got me there lol..

o well to each his own.. ill back gus 100 percent if he gets hired.. just not sure if hes the guy i want

[mike030270]

I'm not worried other teams haven't publicly said they want to interview him. I still want him as a HC.

[Moe_Green]

I always wonder how a guy goes about finding his coordinators when he was a coordinator or position coach in his last gig. it's not like he's been a head coach and can get guys from other staffs who have worked under him as coordinators in the past. Reid could ask permission to bring MM to KC (not that I would) .who would Bradley be able to bring in that would have experience as an offensive coordinator? or perhaps there's a good QB coach somewhere that is ready to be an OC.

I like a defensive minded head coach and our d needs more help than our O, not that the offense is great but injuries had more to do with that than anything else.that said, it is still a QB driven league and an offense oriented league. if he's the HC, he has to find an OC that can develop a young QB like foles and bring fresh ideas. Reid was innovative 14 years ago. the league caught up to him and he was too stubborn to change.

in my perfect world, McCoy would be head coach and gus would come over as DC. but that ain't happening. I guess the same could be said for Mccoy though. espn said that if he were hired, he would not be able to raid any of the denver coaching staff. they're all staying

[wussbasket]

knapp_nick, on 09 January 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

i think he went the pro bowl with the raiders before SEA got him

clemons was not a pro bowler for the raiders and he was with the raiders before the eagles then he went to seattle after.

[PrinceKelby]

knapp_nick, on 09 January 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

i think he went the pro bowl with the raiders before SEA got him

No, not even REMOTELY close but thanks for playing and showing how inept at "Google" you are to get any kind of meaningful data to assimilate your conclusions. . .

he was here as an Eagle genius. . .he also barely played for the Raiders as a situational pass rusher with the Raiders before us. . .



as I said before you know not of what you speak but keep shooting from the hip instead of simply looking up the proper information to make you not sound like an idiot.

[wussbasket]

Moe_Green, on 09 January 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

I always wonder how a guy goes about finding his coordinators when he was a coordinator or position coach in his last gig. it's not like he's been a head coach and can get guys from other staffs who have worked under him as coordinators in the past. Reid could ask permission to bring MM to KC .who would Bradley be able to bring in that would have experience as a coordinator? I like a defensive minded coach and our d needs more help than our O, not that the offense is great but injuries had more to do with that than anything else.that said, it is still a QB driven league and an offense oriented league. if he's the HC, he has to find an OC that can develop a young QB like foles and bring fresh ideas. Reid was innovative 14 years ago. the league caught up to him and he was too stubborn to change.

in my perfect world, McCoy would be head coach and gus would come over as DC. but that ain't happening

this thread may answer some of your questions about how they find coordinators and position coaches.

its a mock but it explains in great detail the connection that Gus has with each of the coaches

http://boards.philad...coaching-staff/

[PrinceKelby]

Moe_Green, on 09 January 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

I always wonder how a guy goes about finding his coordinators when he was a coordinator or position coach in his last gig. it's not like he's been a head coach and can get guys from other staffs who have worked under him as coordinators in the past. Reid could ask permission to bring MM to KC .who would Bradley be able to bring in that would have experience as a coordinator? I like a defensive minded coach and our d needs more help than our O, not that the offense is great but injuries had more to do with that than anything else.that said, it is still a QB driven league and an offense oriented league. if he's the HC, he has to find an OC that can develop a young QB like foles and bring fresh ideas. Reid was innovative 14 years ago. the league caught up to him and he was too stubborn to change.

in my perfect world, McCoy would be head coach and gus would come over as DC. but that ain't happening

NFL coordinators do "hang out" with one another as they are their own fraternity.  I am sure at all the various combines, bowls, off season stuff, etc that they certainly talk to and know one another through various grape vines.  How do you think AR knew JJ?

[knapp_nick]

PrinceKelby, on 09 January 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

No, not even REMOTELY close but thanks for playing and showing how inept at "Google" you are to get any kind of meaningful data to assimilate your conclusions. . .

he was here as an Eagle genius. . .he also barely played for the Raiders as a situational pass rusher with the Raiders before us. . .



as I said before you know not of what you speak but keep shooting from the hip instead of simply looking up the proper information to make you not sound like an idiot.

slow down killer.. got him and burgess confused..

[Moe_Green]

PrinceKelby, on 09 January 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

NFL coordinators do "hang out" with one another as they are their own fraternity.  I am sure at all the various combines, bowls, off season stuff, etc that they certainly talk to and know one another through various grape vines.  How do you think AR knew JJ?

good point. i didn't say it, but i was thinking about Reid having come in after being a QB coach and how he was able to get a top notch DC to join his staff. I don't want this to be a deal where it takes 3 years just to get a good staff together.

[Pegger]

knapp_nick, on 09 January 2013 - 11:51 AM, said:

i fear gus is all hype right now.. everyone thinks bc monte kiffin says good things about him hes gonna be some great coach..

I find this funny. What would classify Monte as an NFL head coach expert? He's never been a head coach and the best he's worked with was Dungy, who couldn't win one without Peyton and Jon Gruden, who took Dungy's team over the hump only to destroy it.

[PrinceKelby]

knapp_nick, on 09 January 2013 - 01:55 PM, said:

slow down killer.. got him and burgess confused..

Well then do your homework before spouting off like you know more than you do.  Do your homework on Bradley rather than just stating "i fear he's all hype" without having anything to back it up. . .just because other teams aren't jumping all over him doesn't mean he won't be a good HC.

[Moe_Green]

Pegger, on 09 January 2013 - 02:07 PM, said:

I find this funny. What would classify Monte as an NFL head coach expert? He's never been a head coach and the best he's worked with was Dungy, who couldn't win one without Peyton and Jon Gruden, who took Dungy's team over the hump only to destroy it.

He's been in the league a long time and is a top notch DC. I think he knows a good teacher and leader when he sees one. I don't doubt the endorsements Bradley's gotten, i just wonder why other teams that need a HC haven't shown interest.