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[bobbywizdum]

We all know this team has major problems on the defensive side of the ball. What we don't know is how much of it is due to personel and how much of it is due to scheme. While i think the defense is still several pieces from being elite...a good draft could have them at least functional next year. The offense imo is simply a dominating tackle away from being there. Could we use a stud te to compliment celek? sure. A big wr? why not. Fact is though with a healthy peters, a stud rt, and herramans back at guard...Foles,maclin,jackson,mccoy,and brown will put up 20 + points a game.



Let's look at the division.

Cowboys- as bad as we were this year...we lost both matchups primarily due to rookie mistakes. Their secondary is improving but their front four is getting old and ineffective. Romo has not developed at all since 2007. With a good defense draft i think we can theoritically pass them already.

Giants- Who knows. They are consistently 8-8 to 9-7 much like the cowboys. In spite of the loss at the end of the year...they haven't beat us in a high stakes matchup since 2007. We could very well be right in the mix with them.

Redskins-boom or bust? Haven't we seen this from them before. A late season tear,an unexpected playoff apperance,hyped expecations the next year....only to return to the bottom. Their fans are exited because reports are that rgIII could be back for the season opener. I would be angry if i were them. They traded away all of those picks for a guy who has already had two acl surgeries now before the age of 24. Even if he plays next year he won't be the same guy and quite frankly the chances of him being an effective player even to the age of 28 are slim. It just shows you the difference between philly and skins fans. That pick has bust written all over it yet they are convinced he is their savior. Enough about rg....their defense played out of their mind during their win streak against primarily nfc east teams and cough cough cleveland. I'll give it to them for the gutsy baltimore win but they have just as many defensive holes as we do. Are you guys really sold on deangelo hall and who is their other cornerback? London fletcher is likely gone. That unit will be in trouble next year.


Eagles-have a top 5 pick for the first time since 99. Will have a new coach for the first time since 99 as well. Much like the Skins benefited from a lack of film on the rgIII/shanahan offensive front....Our divison will have no clue what to expect from the new look eagles. Their are plenty of ?'s on the defensive side of the ball and even at qb...however their is a good young nucleus of talent that will be looking to redeem itself.

[eagle45]

The skins made it "back" in the first year of a rebuild only to lose to a bad team with a rookie qb in the first round.  That's about the best case scenario for this team to make it back in 1-2 years as well.

[jwill2420]

This is a bridge to a why the Eagles won't make it back next season thread

[goeagles5039]

eagle45, on 09 January 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

The skins made it "back" in the first year of a rebuild only to lose to a bad team with a rookie qb in the first round.  That's about the best case scenario for this team to make it back in 1-2 years as well.

Wow, you do not know football.

[Krukslonelyball]

eagle45, on 09 January 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

The skins made it "back" in the first year of a rebuild only to lose to a bad team with a rookie qb in the first round.  That's about the best case scenario for this team to make it back in 1-2 years as well.

You're an idiot if you think the Seahawks are a bad team. Seriously, a Fing idiot.

[nipples]

eagle45, on 09 January 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

The skins made it "back" in the first year of a rebuild only to lose to a bad team with a rookie qb in the first round.  That's about the best case scenario for this team to make it back in 1-2 years as well.

Seattle is a bad team? Really?  They're a legitimate contender in the NFC. 8-1 in their last 9 games including the playoff win against Washington, and absolutely destroyed some teams along the way. They put up 42 points against the Niners defense.

Seattle is for real.

[eephraim]

goeagles5039, on 09 January 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

Wow, you do not know football.

Agreed. What about Marshawn Lynch and that crazy defense is "bad"?

[nipples]

eephraim, on 09 January 2013 - 12:31 PM, said:

Agreed. What about Marshawn Lynch and that crazy defense is "bad"?

#1 fewest points allowed on D, and top 10 scoring offense. Sounds like a bad team to me...

[vsptroops]

eagle45, on 09 January 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

The skins made it "back" in the first year of a rebuild only to lose to a bad team with a rookie qb in the first round.  That's about the best case scenario for this team to make it back in 1-2 years as well.

seattle's a bad team?? yeah, ok....

[ackid38]

Wow someone wasnt paying attention!!!..SeaHawks a bad team? I sure do wish our Eagles were as BAD as the SeaHawks. I'm going to guess a certain someone cant wait till baseball season starts. Because that certain someone knows nothing about the game of football.

[DAWKAMANIA06]

nipples, on 09 January 2013 - 12:31 PM, said:

Seattle is a bad team? Really?  They're a legitimate contender in the NFC. 8-1 in their last 9 games including the playoff win against Washington, and absolutely destroyed some teams along the way. They put up 42 points
against the Niners defense.Seattle is for real.

They are my pick to go to the Superbowl.  But now that Clemons is out that is a big blow.  The dude had 11.5 sacks this year.  Yet another brilliant move by Andy to get rid of him. I still remember him chokeslamming Tavaris Jackson in the WC game in 08.

[dmor]

eagle45, on 09 January 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

The skins made it "back" in the first year of a rebuild only to lose to a bad team with a rookie qb in the first round.  That's about the best case scenario for this team to make it back in 1-2 years as well.

Since when are the Seahawks a bad team?  All they've been doing is blowing out every opponent they faced of late.

[Westyis2Underrated]

eagle45, on 09 January 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

The skins made it "back" in the first year of a rebuild only to lose to a bad team with a rookie qb in the first round.  That's about the best case scenario for this team to make it back in 1-2 years as well.

LOUD NOISES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Solomon]

eagle45, on 09 January 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

The skins made it "back" in the first year of a rebuild only to lose to a bad team with a rookie qb in the first round.  That's about the best case scenario for this team to make it back in 1-2 years as well.

Omfg

[inhumanehuman]

The NFC East isn't elite anymore. Hell, it isn't even that good at all.

Eagles have a shot to be back in the playoffs next year simply because we will be playing the 4th place schedule, and our division sucks.

First round blowout loss here we come...!

[Rob1968]

eagle45, on 09 January 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

The skins made it "back" in the first year of a rebuild only to lose to a bad team with a rookie qb in the first round.  That's about the best case scenario for this team to make it back in 1-2 years as well.

clueless but i like you you stuck your dork beween your legs and high tailed it out of here, lol.

[CMPunk]

LOL no. We're going to be a 6 win team next year. Come to terms with it now so you won't be pissed then.

[joey_eagles75]

Two to three years to be dominate and I think thats fair.

[Pallidrone]

CMPunk, on 09 January 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

LOL no. We're going to be a 6 win team next year. Come to terms with it now so you won't be pissed then.

More like a 3 win team, but I admire your optimism.

[eagle45]

Seahawks are a hot team, not a particularly complete or good one.

[Westyis2Underrated]

eagle45, on 10 January 2013 - 11:05 AM, said:

Seahawks are a hot team, not a particularly complete or good one.

Are they perfect? No.  But a great RB, big physical recievers who make plays, a Star in the making at QB, a Solid offensive line, and that entire defense make up a pretty complete team to me.  Especially with how that team is almost completely different than it was 3 years ago.  I think you're speaking from your fart box quite frankly.

[eagle45]

Westyis2Underrated, on 10 January 2013 - 11:39 AM, said:

Are they perfect? No.  But a great RB, big physical recievers who make plays, a Star in the making at QB, a Solid offensive line, and that entire defense make up a pretty complete team to me.  Especially with how that team is almost completely different than it was 3 years ago.  I think you're speaking from your fart box quite frankly.

Home game, against a team whose best or 2nd best defensive player just blew out his knee and against a rookie qb.  If you can't win that, you aren't back in the hunt (Redskins).  The Seahawks were a damn vulnerable team that day, even if I was exaggerating when I said they were bad.  The point of the entire post is that the Redskins were never really back in the hunt.

[Baltus]

I think getting back to being a relevant team might be very close or very far, we really don't know right now.  It depends on a lot of things, on Offense having a coach that can develop Foles and make him at least a good QB and hope for an elite QB.  if that happens the O in general has good pieces to work with,

The Oline if everybody can come back to health and perhaps getting 1 decent pick to plug a hole there will get back to at least serviceable.  
RB's I think we are good there if not great, Shady is one of the top RBs and Brown can be another great one if he can stop fumbling.
WR are above average and if Maclin can finally have his breakout season they are good.
TE Celek is good but need more talent there.

The big issue is the D, in paper we have a good D maybe the right coach can make the under performing players perform to expectations.  Lets be honest, since JJ the D coaches have been a disaster.  I don't know if the whole D needs to be revamped or just have a good scheme were players are motivated and can perform.

So, if things fall in place the Eagles can get back to being a good team under the right coach but on the opposite side, they can have another horrible year while the new coach rebuilds everything.

[russrock1]

Its very hard to get back to being a good NFL team.

Look at the Titans, had great success much like the Eagles but could never win it all.
Now they are a floundering team. The Eagles stand a better chance of doing just that rather than turning it around in a years time.

[bobbywizdum]

russrock1, on 10 January 2013 - 11:56 AM, said:

Its very hard to get back to being a good NFL team.

Look at the Titans, had great success much like the Eagles but could never win it all.
Now they are a floundering team. The Eagles stand a better chance of doing just that rather than turning it around in a years time.

the titans also play in a division with the colts and titans. our situation is much different.

[downsoufeagleluva]

Dont know what you use to evaluate teams, but the Seahawks are likely on the verge of knocking out the number 1 seed.  Falcons fans here CLEARLY wanted Washington to win.

eagle45, on 09 January 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

The skins made it "back" in the first year of a rebuild only to lose to a bad team with a rookie qb in the first round.  That's about the best case scenario for this team to make it back in 1-2 years as well.

[PHeagles36]

lolol

eagle45, on 10 January 2013 - 11:05 AM, said:

Seahawks are a hot team, not a particularly complete or good one.

what is being good? winning games? they won a lot of them.

[biglou22]

eagle45, on 09 January 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

The skins made it "back" in the first year of a rebuild only to lose to a bad team with a rookie qb in the first round.  That's about the best case scenario for this team to make it back in 1-2 years as well.

1st, regardless of what the Skins did this year they are a disfunctional average team at best.
2nd, man are you missing the boat with Seattle. That is a well coached, young talented team with basically the only missing piece is a good QB. Now will Wilson prove to be that guy ??? Who knows. He sure did OK this year, but he will certainly have to improve to take them to the next level unless that great defense can carry them. Which is possible.

[bobbywizdum]

biglou22, on 10 January 2013 - 12:46 PM, said:

1st, regardless of what the Skins did this year they are a disfunctional average team at best.
2nd, man are you missing the boat with Seattle. That is a well coached, young talented team with basically the only missing piece is a good QB. Now will Wilson prove to be that guy ??? Who knows. He sure did OK this year, but he will certainly have to improve to take them to the next level unless that great defense can carry them. Which is possible.

very god post lou. that was my point of this thread. Our current division winner is a disfunctional average team at best. What does that say for the rest of the divsion? That is exactly why we could be contending sooner rather than later.

[TenaciousEagles]

The Eagles do not even have a coach right now, there is no way to predict what they are going to be.  They could end up hiring a complete joke for all we know.