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#1 Taocat

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:32 PM

Andy needs a QB, but he can't pick one first.

Would you trade the #4 pick to KC for any amount? Future #1 picks?

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:36 PM

I have no idea, won't happen but maybe their 2nd and 3rd and 2014 1st?

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:38 PM

Why can't Andy pick a QB first?  Are you saying it would be a reach?

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:39 PM

Do you realize Andy has the #1 pick and can get whoever he wants?

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:40 PM

View PostTaocat, on 10 January 2013 - 09:32 PM, said:

Andy needs a QB, but he can't pick one first.

Would you trade the #4 pick to KC for any amount? Future #1 picks?

why can't he pick one first?  Why can he pick one 4th?  With the new rookie wage scale the difference in pay in minimal.  If your talking talent wise there is no QB in this draft that talent wise would warrant a top 15 pick, so first or fourth what's the difference.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 10:13 PM

View PostTaocat, on 10 January 2013 - 09:32 PM, said:

Andy needs a QB, but he can't pick one first.

Would you trade the #4 pick to KC for any amount? Future #1 picks?

Why would you give anything to move to the numer one pick when there isn't even anyone that stands out as a cant miss prospect?

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 10:38 PM

View PostTaocat, on 10 January 2013 - 09:32 PM, said:

Andy needs a QB, but he can't pick one first.

Would you trade the #4 pick to KC for any amount? Future #1 picks?
This makes absolutely no sense.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 10:46 PM

Are you saying the Chiefs draft 1st overall? and then trade for the #4 pick???

It would take an overwhelming offer from the Chiefs to make that deal if i'm running the eagles

anyway its not gonna happen

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 10:46 PM

Sorry, I should have done a better job explaining.

Andy can't draft a QB with the #1. It'd be a reach. So let's say he drafts the best available at 1.

If KC was then asking for our #4 (for a QB project), what would your asking price be?

I know it's not going to happen. Entertain me.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:26 PM

I'd do it for Eric Berry, but I'm posting in TATE, not living in reality when I say it. Andy could have his OT and QB and we could have someone at S who won't make us face palm on Sunday ;)

Fun to think about, but never happen.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:32 PM

Ummmm don't you mean what we would give them for it?

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:36 PM

It would take Eric Berry, a 2014 1st and 2015 1st.  Anything less is dumb but that's perfect. Get a decent safety and two first rounders the next two years that are sure to be top half when ur only getting rid of ur 1st rounder in a top-weak draft.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:19 AM

View PostTaocat, on 10 January 2013 - 10:46 PM, said:

Sorry, I should have done a better job explaining.

Andy can't draft a QB with the #1. It'd be a reach. So let's say he drafts the best available at 1.

If KC was then asking for our #4 (for a QB project), what would your asking price be?

I know it's not going to happen. Entertain me.
Now that you've explained it, it makes even less sense.

Why would he draft a "project" in the first round?  And why would he draft said project at #4 when that same project is probably gonna be available in the 2nd round?  If you draft a QB at 4, he better not be a project.  He better be franchise material.

We need a coach badly.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:53 AM

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:08 AM

Maybe we should trade #4 for #1 straight up. Then Andy can get his QB at a good price and we can have the #1 pick.

That benefits everyone right?

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:11 AM

View PostBIGGSHAUN, on 11 January 2013 - 12:19 AM, said:

Why would he draft a "project" in the first round? .

Because he is Andy and he knows more than you or I.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:47 AM

View PostEaglesdude55, on 11 January 2013 - 02:08 AM, said:

Maybe we should trade #4 for #1 straight up. Then Andy can get his QB at a good price and we can have the #1 pick.

That benefits everyone right?

lmaooooo

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 05:14 AM

View PostBIGGSHAUN, on 11 January 2013 - 12:19 AM, said:

Now that you've explained it, it makes even less sense.

Why would he draft a "project" in the first round?  And why would he draft said project at #4 when that same project is probably gonna be available in the 2nd round?  If you draft a QB at 4, he better not be a project.  He better be franchise material.

We need a coach badly.

For one, I don't think I've seen a lot of people that think Geno Smith is going to fall into the second round, assuming that's who the OP was referencing.

And B, last year the Dolphins drafted Tannehill at #8, so it's still a Top 10 pick... but certainly not number four. Either way, he was considered a pretty big project at the time.

Answer the OP, it'd have to be a decent player and a couple of 1st rounders in 2014 and 2015... maybe a 2nd this year. Reason I don't think it'll happen... Reid won't mortgage the future on one draft for a project QB. Luck or RGIII? Absolutely, but not Geno at #4.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 07:05 AM

View PostTaocat, on 10 January 2013 - 10:46 PM, said:

Sorry, I should have done a better job explaining.

Andy can't draft a QB with the #1. It'd be a reach. So let's say he drafts the best available at 1.

If KC was then asking for our #4 (for a QB project), what would your asking price be?

I know it's not going to happen. Entertain me.
Apparently you missed a lot of past Eagle drafts where AR was reaching all the time. AR doesn't care what people think he drafts who he wants to draft right or wrong. Reach or no reach.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 07:09 AM

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 07:37 AM

View PostPerforator, on 11 January 2013 - 04:11 AM, said:

Because he is Andy and he knows more than you or I.

WHy do people keep thinking AR has to find his qb in the first round. He found Kolb in the 2nd round and Foles in the third round. AR will more likely take Luke Joeckel #1 overall and find a qb later in the draft like he done the last two times.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 07:45 AM

View Posteagles_crazy, on 11 January 2013 - 07:37 AM, said:



WHy do people keep thinking AR has to find his qb in the first round. He found Kolb in the 2nd round and Foles in the third round. AR will more likely take Luke Joeckel #1 overall and find a qb later in the draft like he done the last two times.

Well the only other time he had a draft pick in the top 3 , he chose McNabb so that could be the reason.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 07:50 AM

View Postaxe_man_trotter, on 11 January 2013 - 07:45 AM, said:

Well the only other time he had a draft pick in the top 3 , he chose McNabb so that could be the reason.

Mcnabb wasn't a reach. Geno Smith would be. The Eagles also had a high pick and drafted Corey Simon (6th overall). I guess you forgot about that. I guess you figure that based off of history Andy will only take Geno or Star?

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 07:52 AM

View Posteagles_crazy, on 11 January 2013 - 07:50 AM, said:



Mcnabb wasn't a reach. Geno Smith would be.

According to who ? Maybe Andy thinks otherwise.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 07:53 AM

View Postaxe_man_trotter, on 11 January 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

According to who ? Maybe Andy thinks otherwise.

Maybe the eagles take Geno #4 because Howie thinks that Geno isn't a reach.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 07:56 AM

View Posteagles_crazy, on 11 January 2013 - 07:53 AM, said:



Maybe the eagles take Geno #4 because Howie thinks that Geno isn't a reach.

Or maybe Andy takes him number one? He's fl e crazier things, as we all know.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:00 AM

View Postaxe_man_trotter, on 11 January 2013 - 07:45 AM, said:

Well the only other time he had a draft pick in the top 3 , he chose McNabb so that could be the reason.
You're forgetting that 1999 was a great draft for QB's...Couch, McNabb, Culpepper and I know I'm forgetting someone.  There were at least 4 QB's drafted high that year.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:01 AM

View Postaxe_man_trotter, on 11 January 2013 - 07:56 AM, said:

Or maybe Andy takes him number one? He's fl e crazier things, as we all know.

Like I said before. I can see the Eagles taking Geno as much as I can see AR taking Geno (next to nil) AR picked high in the draft twice, and didn't reach neither time, AR also shown that he is willing to get his qb's outside of round 1, like he did with Foles and Kolb. Yes AR did take Mcnabb with the #2 overall pick but that was in a very deep qb draft, it was far from a reach.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:04 AM

View PostShrewdDude, on 11 January 2013 - 08:00 AM, said:


You're forgetting that 1999 was a great draft for QB's...Couch, McNabb, Culpepper and I know I'm forgetting someone.  There were at least 4 QB's drafted high that year.

I'm not forgetting anything . Andy took McNabb in the top 5 and he feels like Geno can be his new McNabb and franchise QB, I don't think he'll hesitate to do it.

We're still a long way from April however so as we know , a lot could change before then. Players stocks can drop or rise. I think we will get a better idea around the combine.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:31 AM

View PostTaocat, on 10 January 2013 - 10:46 PM, said:

Sorry, I should have done a better job explaining.

Andy can't draft a QB with the #1. It'd be a reach. So let's say he drafts the best available at 1.

If KC was then asking for our #4 (for a QB project), what would your asking price be?

I know it's not going to happen. Entertain me.

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