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[eaglesrbeast]

Coaching:
HC Jay Gruden: Former AFL QB, won a Super Bowl in Tampa as an OC, has done a great job with Andy Dalton and has a great pedigree

OC Bruce Arians: Another guy thats not a lock for a head coaching job. Did good with a young QB and ran the ball well in Pittsburgh.

DC Gus Bradley: Might not get a HC job and maybe remains a DC for awhile. Done a great job with big, tall, strong CBs, Brandon Browner and Richard Sherman, maybe he gets Nnamdi and DRC back to the Pro Bowl

If the situations change Jay Gruden and Bruce Arians could switch places.

Trade: Michael Vick and restructure contract to KC for 5th and conditional 7th, Trent Cole to ATL for 4th, 6th rounder for Marcel Reece from OAK

Free Agency: Mostly depth with 3 or four big names.

Matt Moore: Capable QB and a great backup. 4 year deal
TE: Jarad Cook: Althetic and bigbodied red zone threat at a good value. 2 year deal
WR: Greg Jennings: Wont be to much money. In the prime of his career and the injuries have faded away at the end of this year. 2 year deal
DE: Michael Johnson: Had a breakout year and is in the prime of his career. Freak athlete, 11.5 sack and perfect fit for a 4-3
Dashon Goldson: Dawkins like safety and ballhawk. Won't return to SF out of pride. 5 year Deal.
OLB: Philip Wheeller. 100 tackles this season for Oakland without the price

Draft
Trade 4th overall to STL for 2 first and 4th round pick
16: Matt Elam: Hard hitting safety with attitude. Decent value cause he will rise after the combine.
21: Cordarelle Patterson: Big Bodied redzone target. Randy Moss without the attitude.
35: Barett Jones; Center, Guard , Tackle. He and Herremans can switch and we can se who's better
3rd: Logan Ryan. Physical corner that comes up in the clutch. My favorit corner. Corner back of the future in 3 years
4th: E.J. Emanuel. For the depth and maybe
5th: Kenjon Barner. Could be the next Darren Sproles
6th: Best Punter. Ryan Allen won the Ray Guy award for a reason
7th: Best Tackle available

Depth Chart with major players
QB: Foles, Moore, Manuel
RB: Mccoy, Brown, Barner
FB: Marcel Reece
WR: Jennings, Jackson, Maclin, Patterson, Avant, Cooper
TE: Celek, Cook
T: Peters
G: Mathis
C: Kelce
G: Jones
T: Herremans
DE: Cole, Curry
DT: Cox, Patterson
DT: Jenkins, Dixon
DE: Grahman, Tapp
OLB: Kendricks
MLB: Ryans
OLB: Wheeler
CB: Asomugha, boykin
CB: Cromartie, Ryan
S: Goldson
S: Elam

Scheme: Run the ball and set up PA and deep balls. Split carries to give Lesean a break. Play man on Defense. With two better safeties maybe DRC and Asomugha can play better. Blitz a good amount and let the dline run free.

Now were contenders and maybe in another year or two we're deep playoff contenders. We're young for the most part and have good depth where we need it. Are offense has the potential to be the greatest ever. Same for the defense.

[BigBoi Eagle]

eaglesrbeast, on 12 January 2013 - 05:26 PM, said:

Coaching:
HC Jay Gruden: Former AFL QB, won a Super Bowl in Tampa as an OC, has done a great job with Andy Dalton and has a great pedigree

OC Bruce Arians: Another guy thats not a lock for a head coaching job. Did good with a young QB and ran the ball well in Pittsburgh.

DC Gus Bradley: Might not get a HC job and maybe remains a DC for awhile. Done a great job with big, tall, strong CBs, Brandon Browner and Richard Sherman, maybe he gets Nnamdi and DRC back to the Pro Bowl

If the situations change Jay Gruden and Bruce Arians could switch places.

Trade: Michael Vick and restructure contract to KC for 5th and conditional 7th, Trent Cole to ATL for 4th, 6th rounder for Marcel Reece from OAK

Free Agency: Mostly depth with 3 or four big names.

Matt Moore: Capable QB and a great backup. 4 year deal
TE: Jarad Cook: Althetic and bigbodied red zone threat at a good value. 2 year deal
WR: Greg Jennings: Wont be to much money. In the prime of his career and the injuries have faded away at the end of this year. 2 year deal
DE: Michael Johnson: Had a breakout year and is in the prime of his career. Freak athlete, 11.5 sack and perfect fit for a 4-3
Dashon Goldson: Dawkins like safety and ballhawk. Won't return to SF out of pride. 5 year Deal.
OLB: Philip Wheeller. 100 tackles this season for Oakland without the price

Draft
Trade 4th overall to STL for 2 first and 4th round pick
16: Matt Elam: Hard hitting safety with attitude. Decent value cause he will rise after the combine.
21: Cordarelle Patterson: Big Bodied redzone target. Randy Moss without the attitude.
35: Barett Jones; Center, Guard , Tackle. He and Herremans can switch and we can se who's better
3rd: Logan Ryan. Physical corner that comes up in the clutch. My favorit corner. Corner back of the future in 3 years
4th: E.J. Emanuel. For the depth and maybe
5th: Kenjon Barner. Could be the next Darren Sproles
6th: Best Punter. Ryan Allen won the Ray Guy award for a reason
7th: Best Tackle available

Depth Chart with major players
QB: Foles, Moore, Manuel
RB: Mccoy, Brown, Barner
FB: Marcel Reece
WR: Jennings, Jackson, Maclin, Patterson, Avant, Cooper
TE: Celek, Cook
T: Peters
G: Mathis
C: Kelce
G: Jones
T: Herremans
DE: Cole, Curry
DT: Cox, Patterson
DT: Jenkins, Dixon
DE: Grahman, Tapp
OLB: Kendricks
MLB: Ryans
OLB: Wheeler
CB: Asomugha, boykin
CB: Cromartie, Ryan
S: Goldson
S: Elam

Scheme: Run the ball and set up PA and deep balls. Split carries to give Lesean a break. Play man on Defense. With two better safeties maybe DRC and Asomugha can play better. Blitz a good amount and let the dline run free.

Now were contenders and maybe in another year or two we're deep playoff contenders. We're young for the most part and have good depth where we need it. Are offense has the potential to be the greatest ever. Same for the defense.

first, why would you want to take elam 1st pick when we need a tackle, second why would take jay gruden as our coach awful choice Gus Bradley is where its at, third don't think bruce arians would leave the colts with that emotional year he had with them just to be at the same position he was at with the colts, I know you put a lot of work into this but this is needs to be fixed

[ThaPhenom]

why would Arians leave his OC job at Indy to take a OC job at Philly....?
why would Bradley leave his DC job at seattle to take a DC job at Philly....?

If you bought a brand new Lamborghini would you trade it in for a used Lamborghini?

NOOOO!!!

also can you tell me why the Rams would even consider making that trade? they have no reason to so again NOOO!! :)

[Footballman175]

BigBoi Eagle, on 12 January 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

first, why would you want to take elam 1st pick when we need a tackle, second why would take jay gruden as our coach awful choice Gus Bradley is where its at, third don't think bruce arians would leave the colts with that emotional year he had with them just to be at the same position he was at with the colts, I know you put a lot of work into this but this is needs to be fixed

Because he has Barrett Jones later in the draft. The other questions, i don't know.

[GoEagles614]

ThaPhenom, on 12 January 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

why would Arians leave his OC job at Indy to take a OC job at Philly....?
why would Bradley leave his DC job at seattle to take a DC job at Philly

This.

Why would a coach move for the same exact job. To a non-playoff team.

Also out of the 3 of the people u hired the worst one to be the HC.

[eaglesrbeast]

First are all the Eagles fans bailing on Jason Peters and Todd Herremans just because they got hurt and herremans had a down year. Last year everyone loved those two. 2nd, the rams would make that trade to move up and select Joeckel at 4th and the value is equal. 3rd has anyone heard about any teams, but a few, saying they showed huge interest in Arians and Bradley. yeah i know its a stretch. And Jay Gruden does well with Young QB cough cough Nick Foles cough. I know its a little far fetched but its a possibility.

[GoEagles614]

It's not far-fetched, it's ridiculous and impossible.

Bruce Arians - a coach who helped his team get to the playoffs, coaches behind someone who may not be there long because of his health, and has the next Peyton Manning on his team already. So he'd go to the Eagles, as an assistant not even a HC?

Gus Bradley - has coached one of the best, toughest, team-oriented defenses in the league. His team still had a chance to make the Super Bowl, and has all his pieces in play for his system. So he'd go to the Eagles who is the opposite of that, to still be a defensive coordinator and make the same money, with a much weaker D.


Jay Gruden - Overrated. He's good with young QBs because Andy Dalton had AJ Green? Even then sometimes their O is lackluster. Anyone will goto Cincy on his place and do the same if not better with their personel.

I'd never choose him over Bradley, Fangio, or Arians. Ever. Never.

When coaches come in they bring their guys with them, even tough these HC candidates have settled for the same job in a new city (in your
Mock) they normally bring people close to them or a co-worker with them.

I feel your mock doesn't represent anything that is tied with the coaches or continuity, or pays attention the realism.

People aren't bailing on those guys, the NFL is about re-stocking. You have to have depth and youth to step in when needed. Watkins needs replaced regardless, if Peters goes down again we don't want a random backup we overpay, we want a rookie that's good, that could eventually start. Therefore people are picking young talent in a OL heavy draft.


Problems with your draft:

WR Patterson, had only 1, 100 yard receiving game. Who would he be without his teammate on the other end of the field? Not worth a first IMHO.

O-Line- if any of our OL go down, our season can look similar to this one with the lack of depth.

Logan Ryan doesn't fit your DCs scheme.



Offseason- Micheal Johnson and Greg Jennings will cost more than you think. Jennings will sign a 4-5 year deal because he still plays at a high level.

Micheal Johnson did break out, and Teams will offer him a 5 year 8-11 mil. Per year.

Cook - this draft is athletic TE HEAVY! I'd rather spend a later pick on a young athlete than someone who has been consistently inconsistent in the NFL.

[FeelinPhilly89]

Footballman175, on 12 January 2013 - 06:23 PM, said:

Because he has Barrett Jones later in the draft. The other questions, i don't know.

Barret Jones plays Center or maybe and i mean maybe guard if he has too

[Footballman175]

FeelinPhilly89, on 12 January 2013 - 10:54 PM, said:

Barret Jones plays Center or maybe and i mean maybe guard if he has too

He plays all three positions

He played Guard for '09 Nat'l Champ

He played Tackle for '11 Nat'l Champ

He played Center for '12 Nat'l Champ

[GoEagles614]

Footballman175, on 12 January 2013 - 10:56 PM, said:

He plays all three positions

He played Guard for '09 Nat'l Champ

He played Tackle for '11 Nat'l Champ

He played Center for '12 Nat'l Champ

And he's played in 3 national championships.
Lol

[ThaPhenom]

eaglesrbeast, on 12 January 2013 - 10:08 PM, said:

First are all the Eagles fans bailing on Jason Peters and Todd Herremans just because they got hurt and herremans had a down year. Last year everyone loved those two. 2nd, the rams would make that trade to move up and select Joeckel at 4th and the value is equal. 3rd has anyone heard about any teams, but a few, saying they showed huge interest in Arians and Bradley. yeah i know its a stretch. And Jay Gruden does well with Young QB cough cough Nick Foles cough. I know its a little far fetched but its a possibility.

just because value is equal that doesnt make it a reasonable trade... i understand that you want 2 1st round picks but do you think that the Rams dont want 2 1st rounders?
No, the Rams want their 2 1st rounders just as much as us, they wont make that trade cause they wont want Joeckel compared to the 2 pick they will get.... i dont see why you dont understand that.

theyre showing interest in those coaches for a HC job... not a OC job not a DC job, its not like they're set to be fired this year or something so why would they leave their great situations?? this is not possible at all

[cmart102]

As long as we're having coaches making lateral moves from playoff teams to non-playoff teams give me belichick or harbaugh as HC

[djbigf]

OP needs a fresh start with a new screenname

[FeelinPhilly89]

Footballman175, on 12 January 2013 - 10:56 PM, said:

He plays all three positions

He played Guard for '09 Nat'l Champ

He played Tackle for '11 Nat'l Champ

He played Center for '12 Nat'l Champ

There line was at its best when he was at Center

[birdguy]

eaglesrbeast, on 12 January 2013 - 05:26 PM, said:

Coaching:
HC Jay Gruden: Former AFL QB, won a Super Bowl in Tampa as an OC, has done a great job with Andy Dalton and has a great pedigree

OC Bruce Arians: Another guy thats not a lock for a head coaching job. Did good with a young QB and ran the ball well in Pittsburgh.

DC Gus Bradley: Might not get a HC job and maybe remains a DC for awhile. Done a great job with big, tall, strong CBs, Brandon Browner and Richard Sherman, maybe he gets Nnamdi and DRC back to the Pro Bowl

If the situations change Jay Gruden and Bruce Arians could switch places.

Trade: Michael Vick and restructure contract to KC for 5th and conditional 7th, Trent Cole to ATL for 4th, 6th rounder for Marcel Reece from OAK

Free Agency: Mostly depth with 3 or four big names.

Matt Moore: Capable QB and a great backup. 4 year deal
TE: Jarad Cook: Althetic and bigbodied red zone threat at a good value. 2 year deal
WR: Greg Jennings: Wont be to much money. In the prime of his career and the injuries have faded away at the end of this year. 2 year deal
DE: Michael Johnson: Had a breakout year and is in the prime of his career. Freak athlete, 11.5 sack and perfect fit for a 4-3
Dashon Goldson: Dawkins like safety and ballhawk. Won't return to SF out of pride. 5 year Deal.
OLB: Philip Wheeller. 100 tackles this season for Oakland without the price

Draft
Trade 4th overall to STL for 2 first and 4th round pick
16: Matt Elam: Hard hitting safety with attitude. Decent value cause he will rise after the combine.
21: Cordarelle Patterson: Big Bodied redzone target. Randy Moss without the attitude.
35: Barett Jones; Center, Guard , Tackle. He and Herremans can switch and we can se who's better
3rd: Logan Ryan. Physical corner that comes up in the clutch. My favorit corner. Corner back of the future in 3 years
4th: E.J. Emanuel. For the depth and maybe
5th: Kenjon Barner. Could be the next Darren Sproles
6th: Best Punter. Ryan Allen won the Ray Guy award for a reason
7th: Best Tackle available

Depth Chart with major players
QB: Foles, Moore, Manuel
RB: Mccoy, Brown, Barner
FB: Marcel Reece
WR: Jennings, Jackson, Maclin, Patterson, Avant, Cooper
TE: Celek, Cook
T: Peters
G: Mathis
C: Kelce
G: Jones
T: Herremans
DE: Cole, Curry
DT: Cox, Patterson
DT: Jenkins, Dixon
DE: Grahman, Tapp
OLB: Kendricks
MLB: Ryans
OLB: Wheeler
CB: Asomugha, boykin
CB: Cromartie, Ryan
S: Goldson
S: Elam

Scheme: Run the ball and set up PA and deep balls. Split carries to give Lesean a break. Play man on Defense. With two better safeties maybe DRC and Asomugha can play better. Blitz a good amount and let the dline run free.

Now were contenders and maybe in another year or two we're deep playoff contenders. We're young for the most part and have good depth where we need it. Are offense has the potential to be the greatest ever. Same for the defense.

Zero chance we end up with this coaching staff.  Zero chance the Rams make that trade.  No top assistants under contract are leaving their current positions for a lateral move with a franchise in disarray.

[morphius12812003]

   just no

[Eagle Gator 12]

Sorry bud. Way too many unrealistic FA signings. Goldson, Johnson, Jennings and cook all in one offseason? Fudge I wouldn't even care about the draft if we could pull that off..eh no I would still care about the draft

[phillygrump]

eaglesrbeast, on 12 January 2013 - 05:26 PM, said:

Coaching:
HC Jay Gruden: Former AFL QB, won a Super Bowl in Tampa as an OC, has done a great job with Andy Dalton and has a great pedigree

OC Bruce Arians: Another guy thats not a lock for a head coaching job. Did good with a young QB and ran the ball well in Pittsburgh.

DC Gus Bradley: Might not get a HC job and maybe remains a DC for awhile. Done a great job with big, tall, strong CBs, Brandon Browner and Richard Sherman, maybe he gets Nnamdi and DRC back to the Pro Bowl

If the situations change Jay Gruden and Bruce Arians could switch places.

Trade: Michael Vick and restructure contract to KC for 5th and conditional 7th, Trent Cole to ATL for 4th, 6th rounder for Marcel Reece from OAK

Free Agency: Mostly depth with 3 or four big names.

Matt Moore: Capable QB and a great backup. 4 year deal
TE: Jarad Cook: Althetic and bigbodied red zone threat at a good value. 2 year deal
WR: Greg Jennings: Wont be to much money. In the prime of his career and the injuries have faded away at the end of this year. 2 year deal
DE: Michael Johnson: Had a breakout year and is in the prime of his career. Freak athlete, 11.5 sack and perfect fit for a 4-3
Dashon Goldson: Dawkins like safety and ballhawk. Won't return to SF out of pride. 5 year Deal.
OLB: Philip Wheeller. 100 tackles this season for Oakland without the price

Draft
Trade 4th overall to STL for 2 first and 4th round pick
16: Matt Elam: Hard hitting safety with attitude. Decent value cause he will rise after the combine.
21: Cordarelle Patterson: Big Bodied redzone target. Randy Moss without the attitude.
35: Barett Jones; Center, Guard , Tackle. He and Herremans can switch and we can se who's better
3rd: Logan Ryan. Physical corner that comes up in the clutch. My favorit corner. Corner back of the future in 3 years
4th: E.J. Emanuel. For the depth and maybe
5th: Kenjon Barner. Could be the next Darren Sproles
6th: Best Punter. Ryan Allen won the Ray Guy award for a reason
7th: Best Tackle available

Depth Chart with major players
QB: Foles, Moore, Manuel
RB: Mccoy, Brown, Barner
FB: Marcel Reece
WR: Jennings, Jackson, Maclin, Patterson, Avant, Cooper
TE: Celek, Cook
T: Peters
G: Mathis
C: Kelce
G: Jones
T: Herremans
DE: Cole, Curry
DT: Cox, Patterson
DT: Jenkins, Dixon
DE: Grahman, Tapp
OLB: Kendricks
MLB: Ryans
OLB: Wheeler
CB: Asomugha, boykin
CB: Cromartie, Ryan
S: Goldson
S: Elam

Scheme: Run the ball and set up PA and deep balls. Split carries to give Lesean a break. Play man on Defense. With two better safeties maybe DRC and Asomugha can play better. Blitz a good amount and let the dline run free.

Now were contenders and maybe in another year or two we're deep playoff contenders. We're young for the most part and have good depth where we need it. Are offense has the potential to be the greatest ever. Same for the defense.

Why would Arians and Bradley leave programs they helped build to make a lateral move to this trainwreck that Philly is?

[LuciusLeftFoot]

FeelinPhilly89, on 13 January 2013 - 12:26 PM, said:

There line was at its best when he was at Center

THEIR line was good enough to win three championships... He won the Outland Trophy last season as a tackle, and then the Rimington this season.

The guy can clearly play all three spots at a very high level. Will he settle into on spot in the NFL, probably, but you can't say "He only plays center, period."

[mmm4552]

Meh Not a big fan of Elam at 16... feel like it's a bit of a reach. Even though you've got Barrett Jones (I love this kid)... If it comes down to BPA between Elam and Warmack... I'm solidifying that line through and through.

[kitko60]

Am I the only one who thinks Gruden doesn't deserve any credit for the fluke season Dalton had last year?  Yeah, some QB play decent when you have no tape on them and yeah some QB look decent when you have an absolute freak at WR in AJ Green.

Go back and watch the Bengals/Texans games from two weeks ago and tell me Dalton is even a mediocre NFL QB.  He was terrible!  If AJ Green had a good QB he would break every record in the NFL!!

[Pegger]

I keep wondering why people post mocks where a successful DC or OC from another team would leave their current spot for the same role here?

Actually I'd like you to explain. Why would Arians leave the OC job in Indy (Luck, Wayne, etc..) for Philly? Also, why would Bradley leave Seattle (Sherman, Thomas, etc..) for Philly?

Why would either of these guys uproot their families and move for a lateral position?