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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:13 AM

I don't know if this is true obviously but if it is it's scary for the franchise

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No coaching search has been as meandering and bizarre as the Eagles' circuitous trek across America. If you are replacing the greatest coach in your franchise history, you might want to actually have a plan to replace him.

Chasing every hot college coach, scrambling to the media to confirm some coaching interviews, obscure others; releasing skewed information about your whereabouts and resorting to day-late spin tactics after being repeatedly left at the altar isn't going to fly in Philly. Not when the entire league knew Andy Reid was done there since about the middle of the season, and not with a young general manager, Howie Roseman, trying to fight a growing perception around the league that he is woefully out of his depth. (Say what you want about the Bears' exhaustive search, but they haven't been strung out by college coaches who were unlikely to leave campus anyway).

The last two seasons, culminating with Roseman's rise to power in Philadelphia, have been marred with horror signings like Nnamdi Asomugha, the firing of coordinators and assistants in-season, some pretty obvious situations where the personnel didn't fit the scheme, the demise of Reid. Jason Babin being waived in-season a year after challenging the single-season sack record pretty much sums up the Roseman Era. Some strange front office firings mixed in there too.


Oh, and also plenty of less-than-competitive football.

Couple that with this strange coaching search, and the pressure is mounting on Roseman. And now, there is no longer anyone to hide behind. Say what you want about former team president Joe Banner and his quirky coaching search in Cleveland, but a certain degree of chaos has seemed to permeate the Eagles building since he left. And, no longer are there out-sized characters around, like Reid and Banner, to take all the bullets when things fail. It's all on Roseman now. No more whispers about, oh, that wasn't Howie's guy, that wasn't Howie's signing, he never wanted him here in the first place.

Rather, very different chatter has been growing in NFL circles for weeks. What's up with the Eagles job? Why don't guys want it? What are their concerns?

I wish I had a dollar for every time someone told me one esteemed coach or another advised one of the Eagles' top candidates not to take the job precisely because of Roseman's presence there. Roseman isn't the general manager they should tie their wagon to. It's clear Chip Kelly wasn't leaving Oregon for anywhere unless he had a large measure of control over the organization, and owner Jeffrey Lurie has already entrusted that to Roseman. There has been trepidation by some candidates to go all-in given the questions about this existing power structure.

The rumblings about Roseman lacking nuance and foresight, about him turning people off with how drunk with power he's become, only grow louder as his coaching search grows stranger.

Now, the Eagles would tell you they are right where they thought they would be in this search, now going on Week 3. They'll tell you they just wanted to talk to a bunch of bright football minds and do their due diligence. All part of the process. They didn't really want Chip Kelly or Bill O'Brien or Doug Marrone or Brian Kelly, anyway. Riigghht. Sure. I mean, if you couldn't get anyone to take your job or work with you, wouldn't you indulge in the same revisionist history?

Problem is, they're replacing someone who lasted 14 years in that cauldron, who went to five NFC title games and one Super Bowl and who perpetually had the team in playoff position. They're not replacing Rich Kotite here. And they'd better hope the guy they finally hire isn't the next Kotite. Sure, things had come to an end with Reid, and, trust me, he wasn't going to stay in Philadelphia with this crew no matter what the Eagles would have wanted. But it's worth noting that Reid was unemployed for about 48 hours before he had effectively agreed to terms with the Chiefs, quickly getting total control of the building, a direct link to the owner and a salary that keeps him among top five in his craft.

And the Eagles, meantime, have spent much of their time inflating the rate of college coaching salaries around the country and boosting the stock of guys who certainly seem to have played them for rubes. So we'll see where this thing goes.

Brian Billick, who has a Super Bowl but has not drawn much interest in recent years, had a long interview there last week -- one of the clandestine ones -- and may end up being the guy. Interviews are pending with Colts offensive coordinator Bruce Arians and Bengals offensive coordinator Jay Gruden.

Eventually, they'll hire someone. And they'll try to tell you this was the guy all along and he was by far the best candidate and had the best interviews and all that good stuff. And you know what, as long as they win, nothing else will matter and all will be forgotten.

But the reality is, wins have been hard to come by lately, and they have an uninviting situation at quarterback and an unproven general manager who is going to have to dig them out of a hole he helped create. And they also happen to be playing in a division with Eli Manning and RG3 and Tony Romo, and in what has become a very deep NFC. And they have a fan base that has come to expect playoff football under Reid.

That's a dangerous combination for a general manager still coming to grips with how to harness all of the power he's been granted, and still trying to find someone willing to coach under him.



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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:22 AM

At what point do we acknowledge that there must be something to this?  It has been reported several times over the last few weeks.

If this is indeed the case, Lurie needs to seriously rethink his organizational structure and his football leadership.  Go talk to someone who has done it before!

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:22 AM

This doesn't tell us anything we haven't already heard.  More unnamed sources saying people don't want to work with that awful, mean Howie Roseman.  Honestly, it sounds like LaCanfora is a disgruntled Reid fan.  Does anyone really believe that if Reid wasn't let go, he would've quit?

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:24 AM

View PostKzEaglefan86, on 14 January 2013 - 09:22 AM, said:

This doesn't tell us anything we haven't already heard.  More unnamed sources saying people don't want to work with that awful, mean Howie Roseman.  Honestly, it sounds like LaCanfora is a disgruntled Reid fan.  Does anyone really believe that if Reid wasn't let go, he would've quit?

I agree it seems like LaCanfora gives Reid a pass for the awful decisions that were much more likely his than Howie's. LaCanfora has been throwing garbage out there about interviews too and has been wrong a lot. Still scary even if partially true

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:25 AM

I never liked Jason LaCanfora when he was with NFLN because he was always the last one confirm stuff and his rumors never really panned out, as for his assassination on Howie, it seems more a like an opinion of his rather than actually knowing how the eagles are operating under roseman. God forbid we didnt get these 3 college coaches that the media made it look like were our favorites, who actually knows.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:28 AM

I don't see how an NFLN reported would be a "fan" of Andy Reid and would alter his reporting to support a pro-Reid narrative.  That makes no sense.

How many people have to report the same story, i.e. veteran NFL people and coaches have advised candidates not to take the Eagles job because of Roseman, for anyone to believe it?  Why is it so hard for you to believe that he could possibly be out of his depth or not respected by his peers?

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:32 AM

He works for CBS now. But it very well could be true. That's the scary part. Or LaCanfora could be exaggerating it as his reporting generally sucks. His references to 'rumblngs' and 'if I had a dollar' basically are empty phrases that make no promise of real sources

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:33 AM

Quit reading where he called signing the most sought-after FA of the offseason (Nnamdi) a "Bad move" and followed that up with blaming Roseman for Babin's lack of production.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:33 AM

I've been saying this for the longest! Howie and Jeff's relationship is wayyyy too creepy! I think they're diggin each other like my wife and I dig each other.. ....Whoa!

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:34 AM

Doesn't seem to be much substance to that article. I dislike Howie just as much as the next guy, but i'll choose to hold off on the "assassination" of his character until we actually see who they hire.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:34 AM

This will get worse before better apparently. Oh well. It was a nice decade or so.

Go Phillies? They still have a chance for one more ring?

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:36 AM

View Postwe_gotta_believe, on 14 January 2013 - 09:34 AM, said:

Doesn't seem to be much substance to that article. I dislike Howie just as much as the next guy, but i'll choose to hold off on the "assassination" of his character until we actually see who they hire.

I agree. If they get Gus Bradley I'll be happy. Right now everything is still explainable and no one they interviewed has taken a different nfl job (or any new job) over the eagles

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:37 AM

Only 2/8 teams have hired coaches.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:38 AM

if true.. this sucks..

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:39 AM

While Reid is being unfairly given a pass for his failures this does not mean that the "rumors" about Roseman's incompetence cannot be true.

Of course the next coach and Lurie/Roseman will be judged on the results.

But it is undoubtedly disconcerting to see how bizarre the search looks so far. Not only 0 for 3 with colleges coaches look bad but the press release touting that they are where they expected to be indicates a leadership that is not sure footed.

The local media instead of promoting Gruden should focus more on the process and ask the sort of probing questions that this article has raised.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:45 AM

Mr "Breaking News" is always wrong. Follow him on Twitter if you don't believe me

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:51 AM

View PostFlyin, on 14 January 2013 - 09:45 AM, said:

Mr "Breaking News" is always wrong. Follow him on Twitter if you don't believe me

I agree but he isn't the first to bring this up. The local writers can't really go into to it much since they have to deal with the eagles FO on a daily basis. Where there's smoke there's usually fire even if this does seem grossly exaggerated

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:52 AM

View PostKzEaglefan86, on 14 January 2013 - 09:22 AM, said:

This doesn't tell us anything we haven't already heard.  More unnamed sources saying people don't want to work with that awful, mean Howie Roseman.  Honestly, it sounds like LaCanfora is a disgruntled Reid fan.  Does anyone really believe that if Reid wasn't let go, he would've quit?
He's definitely biased. There's a lot he's not wrong about, but he clearly is giving Reid a pass for everything and putting it all on Howie.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:54 AM

View Postpgcd3, on 14 January 2013 - 09:51 AM, said:



I agree but he isn't the first to bring this up. The local writers can't really go into to it much since they have to deal with the eagles FO on a daily basis. Where there's smoke there's usually fire even if this does seem grossly exaggerated

Not necessarily.

Eagles fans are some of the easiest to pick on because we get worked up over everything. This seems like an ill attempt to get some more followers and readers of his garbage. I follow him on twitter too and he loves bashing the eagles whenever he can.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:55 AM

View PostEaglesdude55, on 14 January 2013 - 09:54 AM, said:

Not necessarily.

Eagles fans are some of the easiest to pick on because we get worked up over everything. This seems like an ill attempt to get some more followers and readers of his garbage. I follow him on twitter too and he loves bashing the eagles whenever he can.
It's the only reason I follow him :lol:

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:58 AM

View PostEaglesdude55, on 14 January 2013 - 09:54 AM, said:

Not necessarily.

Eagles fans are some of the easiest to pick on because we get worked up over everything. This seems like an ill attempt to get some more followers and readers of his garbage. I follow him on twitter too and he loves bashing the eagles whenever he can.

I don't disagree about him but as I said he's not the first to mention this. He does draw some idiotic conclusions about Reid being near blameless and blames Howie for everything. Basically he did the opposite of what Lurie did which was blame Howie for nothing. Obviously the truth is likely in the middle

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:04 AM

View Postnottsfootballfan, on 14 January 2013 - 09:37 AM, said:

Only 2/8 teams have hired coaches.

exactly

LaCanfora can be a critic of just about anything he choses, but he does not have to worry about being held accountable.

easy money, i'd say.

maybe, just maybe, our guys are(were) waiting for the "best" to become available instead of rushing to a quick judgement.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:07 AM

View PostJohn_C, on 14 January 2013 - 09:28 AM, said:

I don't see how an NFLN reported would be a "fan" of Andy Reid and would alter his reporting to support a pro-Reid narrative.  That makes no sense.

How many people have to report the same story, i.e. veteran NFL people and coaches have advised candidates not to take the Eagles job because of Roseman, for anyone to believe it?  Why is it so hard for you to believe that he could possibly be out of his depth or not respected by his peers?
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:12 AM

View Postpgcd3, on 14 January 2013 - 09:36 AM, said:

I agree. If they get Gus Bradley I'll be happy. Right now everything is still explainable and no one they interviewed has taken a different nfl job (or any new job) over the eagles
:lol: @ the title change

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:13 AM

Damn, that is a pretty harsh article.  It does mention a lot of the same concerns/issues many of us have been talking about for weeks now though (not saying this provides absolute proof we were right, but it does seem to suggest we weren't wrong either).

Also, when he questions, "What's up with the Eagles job? Why don't guys want it? What are their concerns?" in fairness, only the 3 collegiate candidates have turned them down thus far (at least as far as we know).

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:14 AM

How in the world can people seriously buy this nonsense? And no, this isn't a "report".

It's a collection of words written by an idiot that is just saying what all the other idiots are saying. It's not news it's "a guy makes some **** up, everyone buys it, it becomes fact."

This isn't being "reported by multiple source" it's being repeated by multiple sources. Huge difference.

A bunch of hearsay nonsense BS because the Eagles are taking their time to find the right guy. There is no proof the Eagles have so much as made a single offer much less all this other anecdotal unprovable horse ****.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:14 AM

View Postwe_gotta_believe, on 14 January 2013 - 10:12 AM, said:

:lol: @ the title change

I know the mods changed my snappy marketing title to something more tame :D . My post readership will drop in half

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:16 AM

View Postpgcd3, on 14 January 2013 - 09:32 AM, said:

He works for CBS now. But it very well could be true. That's the scary part. Or LaCanfora could be exaggerating it as his reporting generally sucks. His references to 'rumblngs' and 'if I had a dollar' basically are empty phrases that make no promise of real sources

I wish I had a dollar for every time someone told me one esteemed coach or another advised one of the Eagles' top candidates not to take the job precisely because of Roseman's presence there - I'd be able to super size my happy meal.  :P

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:16 AM

View PostE v 2.0, on 14 January 2013 - 10:14 AM, said:

How in the world can people seriously buy this nonsense? And no, this isn't a "report".

It's a collection of words written by an idiot that is just saying what all the other idiots are saying. It's not news it's "a guy makes some **** up, everyone buys it, it becomes fact."

This isn't being "reported by multiple source" it's being repeated by multiple sources. Huge difference.

A bunch of hearsay nonsense BS because the Eagles are taking their time to find the right guy. There is no proof the Eagles have so much as made a single offer much less all this other anecdotal unprovable horse ****.
good to see fans adopting the team strategy of blaming the media instead of looking in the mirror. Im almost willing to bet my mortgage this is true. Ike Reese said on WIP a few weeks ago that the Eagles had lied about how smooth the relationship between Reid and Roseman was and there was constant fighting over roster control.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:16 AM

Here's an interesting response I got from Les Bowen

@lesbowen @eaglesdiehard Couple enemies Howie has made, including his former mentor, who really have knives out now. Interested to see how he handles




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