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[Cappeeler]

I don't believe Kelly wants a RB playing QB. He didn't do that at Oregon. He did however run some gimmick plays.

[macgregor]

Akrobatik, on 17 January 2013 - 01:08 AM, said:

They seem to like our young QBs with potential. Patrick Peterson???

You probably are an Arizona fan. Nice try jackarse, Keep fishing.

[bumpy93]

I think Chip wont trade Foles this season IMO. I think he is going to see if Foles can run his offense. Vick is defentily a better fit for Chip's offense, but I dont think Vick will be an Eagle in 2013 IMO. Unless he re-works that massive contract and soon (he is due a 3.5mil roster bonus on 2-6- I think)

[NEPAEAGLE2]

Iggles, on 17 January 2013 - 01:34 AM, said:

You don't GET IT!!!  Kelly is not Andy Reid.  The more I learn about him the more I like him because he ADAPTS.   Foles is a Brady/Flacco/Big Ben type of QB. Chip Kelly respected Nick Foles destroying his Oregon defense.  If the Patriots can adapt Kelly's philosophy with Tom Brady, why not Nick Foles????  Kelly thinks "outside of the box", unlike the previous Eagles coach who needed instruction from a Green Bay Mike Holmgren notebook!!

This is the best case scenario. Spurrier 2.0 is the worst. I hope the get the former. His priorities in the draft will tell us a lot about where he's going. We need impact players with our first few picks. The first should be a stud OL guy for his schemes or a potential starter/star on defense...be it LB or DB.

zyzz, on 17 January 2013 - 05:26 AM, said:

lol.... oregon never got destroyed by foles and foles never beat oregon

Actually Foles put up great numbers against Oregon. ARZ was simply outscored in shootouts by Kelly's offense.

[DawkinsOwnage03]

100% chance Foles isnt traded, OP is stein411 or gapound33's older brother.

[[TSM]_PimpDaddyPain]

I'm thinking a 2nd rounder and patrick peterson.

[DawkinsOwnage03]

110% now

[reign99]

Akrobatik, on 17 January 2013 - 01:28 AM, said:

But the fact remains foles doesn't have the skill set Kelly covets, I'm not saying Vick has to be the guy, but with the skill position players we have here. If chip really wanted to really give his offense a go in the nfl and see if it works, Mike behind center gives him the best shot to see what an nfl version would look like.

Let's just pretend that's true.  It gives him the "best shot" up until when?  The third game of the season when he's knocked out of the game?  Then what?

Wherever Vick goes next, I'd be very surprised to see him last a whole season healthy.

[Vee]

PhillyGreenMachine, on 17 January 2013 - 01:43 AM, said:

I think Andy Reid would think outside the box, but he would always out-think himself when he didn't need to. Like he would play a badly ranked running team and because everyone thought he was going to run the ball, he just passed the ball 50 times because nobody expected him to do that.

Unfortunately he never overcommitted to the run when people thought he was going to pass.

...uhh...like drafting Kafka?

DawkinsOwnage03, on 17 January 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

110% now

"I've never run the zone read," Foles said after the season. "I'm more of a dropback guy. I've been under center. I've been in the gun. If I can adapt, I want to. But I'm not a zone-read quarterback. Some people are gifted with different things. That's just not one of my skill sets. I can work on the speed in the offseason and get better with that. But I've always been a dropback guy in the pocket. I've been able to make plays on my feet throwing the ball or running for a first down."

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[evilwaldo]

Akrobatik, on 17 January 2013 - 01:08 AM, said:

They seem to like our young QBs with potential. Patrick Peterson???

Your mom

[axe_man_trotter]

[TSM]_PimpDaddyPain, on 17 January 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

I'm thinking a 2nd rounder and patrick peterson.

They'd have to throw in Dockett too.. AT LEAST

[sevenup3000]

Lol at all the moronic Nick fans. These were also the moronic Kolb fans 2 years ago. Nick sucks. He has as much talent as Brandon Weedon.

Kelly wants nothing to do with Nick and all you fan boys trying to talk yourself into it are in for a rude awakening. He will either stick with Vick, trade for a QB like Alex Smith, or draft Geno Smith.

Kolb fans, who are now Nicks fans, haven't learned to not over-hying a talent deficient QB.

[wvjerome]

How about we throw in Vick and Nnamdi too?

[E2k4]

I'd be willing to trade Chip Kelly for Larry Fitzgerald...would that work? lol

[kmass88]

As someone wisely said in another thread. Foles is probably going to be a one year rental for Chip Kelly and he's going to bring someone who he wants to as HIS guy either in this draft (no really good looking qbs) or next years draft depending on where we are.

Now of course if Foles lights it up during his 1 year and Chip is comfortable tying his future to him then we'll see. But you have to remember he is inheriting guys that he may not necessarily have drafted to work in his system.  So to just assume he's going to ride it out with Foles and adapt his offense to work with Foles for 2+ years is foolish.  Chip Kelly was brought here to make this team/offense competitive. Unless he see mega upside by having Foles as "the guy" then he's going to be looking to ride or die with guys HE picked.  And after this year he's going to have a better feel for what he wants to do on an NFL level. Think about he essential has a 2 year window to get this team back into the playoffs and competing again. If he spends 1+ years "developing" Foles or his system to make it work with Foles without good results (playoffs). His a*** is gone.

Even Howie has said while Foles was "good" last year he did nothing to cement himself as "the guy" or franchise.

[PhillyGreenMachine]

sevenup3000, on 17 January 2013 - 04:12 PM, said:

Lol at all the moronic Nick fans. These were also the moronic Kolb fans 2 years ago. Nick sucks. He has as much talent as Brandon Weedon.

Kelly wants nothing to do with Nick and all you fan boys trying to talk yourself into it are in for a rude awakening. He will either stick with Vick, trade for a QB like Alex Smith, or draft Geno Smith.

Kolb fans, who are now Nicks fans, haven't learned to not over-hying a talent deficient QB.

Your argument isn't sound, not in any way. It was after you mentioned Vick that proved that you didn't watch this team last year.

And by the way, I support Foles over Vick not because of Kevin Kolb or anything, I supported Foles because he showed more then Vick did last season. Vick is old, injured, and stupid with the football. Why was it that last season in 6 games did Foles record a total of 3 fumbles, 2 of them lost when Vick fumbled the ball 2 times against the Browns, one lost, twice against the Ravens, both lost, twice against the Cardinals, both lost, two times against the Steelers, both lost, once against the Lions wasn't his fault, and once against the Saints? It was because he held on to the ball better, stepped up in the pocket and delivered a more accurate pass without running for his life... WITH A WEAKER OFFENSIVE LINE!

Oh yeah and I never supported Kolb, I always wanted McNabb being the quarterback, that is where your argument is flawed.

[DawkinsOwnage03]

sevenup3000, on 17 January 2013 - 04:12 PM, said:

Lol at all the moronic Nick fans. These were also the moronic Kolb fans 2 years ago. Nick sucks. He has as much talent as Brandon Weedon.

Kelly wants nothing to do with Nick and all you fan boys trying to talk yourself into it are in for a rude awakening. He will either stick with Vick, trade for a QB like Alex Smith, or draft Geno Smith.

Kolb fans, who are now Nicks fans, haven't learned to not over-hying a talent deficient QB.

LOL @ Foles being traded.

[aman88]

Vick is the result when dumb eats too much stupidity.

[maddeneagle]

sevenup3000, on 17 January 2013 - 04:12 PM, said:

Lol at all the moronic Nick fans. These were also the moronic Kolb fans 2 years ago. Nick sucks. He has as much talent as Brandon Weedon.

Kelly wants nothing to do with Nick and all you fan boys trying to talk yourself into it are in for a rude awakening. He will either stick with Vick, trade for a QB like Alex Smith, or draft Geno Smith.

Kolb fans, who are now Nicks fans, haven't learned to not over-hying a talent deficient QB.

Not saying Nick is going to be great (which should be the goal of our franchise QB) but one look at how Nick responds to pressure and navigates the pocket should be all you need to see to know he's > Kolb

[AllPhillyFan]

Patrick Peterson?  Arizona is not going to give us arguably their best player for Foles.

[bobbywizdum]

kmass88, on 17 January 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

As someone wisely said in another thread. Foles is probably going to be a one year rental for Chip Kelly and he's going to bring someone who he wants to as HIS guy either in this draft (no really good looking qbs) or next years draft depending on where we are.

Now of course if Foles lights it up during his 1 year and Chip is comfortable tying his future to him then we'll see. But you have to remember he is inheriting guys that he may not necessarily have drafted to work in his system.  So to just assume he's going to ride it out with Foles and adapt his offense to work with Foles for 2+ years is foolish.  Chip Kelly was brought here to make this team/offense competitive. Unless he see mega upside by having Foles as "the guy" then he's going to be looking to ride or die with guys HE picked.  And after this year he's going to have a better feel for what he wants to do on an NFL level. Think about he essential has a 2 year window to get this team back into the playoffs and competing again. If he spends 1+ years "developing" Foles or his system to make it work with Foles without good results (playoffs). His a*** is gone.

Even Howie has said while Foles was "good" last year he did nothing to cement himself as "the guy" or franchise.

that's not at all what howie said. He simply said foles performed very well but we have to be careful because its such a small sample size. In other words they want to see foles play for a full season before giving him the keys to the kingdom. They've learned from their mistake of giving vick the keys after 6 good games.

[Nitro276]

PhillyGreenMachine, on 17 January 2013 - 01:25 AM, said:

Can we trade you? Only problem is that I don't know what the Eagles can get back of any worth for you...

Maybe a late pick in the 2017 supplemental draft or Andy Reid's last ham sandwich.

[JBinPA]

Akrobatik, on 17 January 2013 - 01:08 AM, said:

They seem to like our young QBs with potential. Patrick Peterson???

Who told YOU anyone likes Foles?  Nobody, that's who.