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[Runtherock]

Smart as all hell, charismatic, a fan of Vermeil, does not suffer fools gladly but has a real human side, you can definitely see it when he talks about his players at Oregon, like Vermeil self deprecating but also has swagger.

Could not be more impressed, no kidding David. Good times!

[KOJO]

[Branded33]

He absolutely ROCKS!!!!!!

[GroundAttack]

Love this guy! He knows what he's doing!

[dave moss]

i expect big things in year 1

[PoconoDon]

I expect a year 1 of transition, early struggles, and not too many wins. From that point forward I expect the team will get better and better......and I hope in 3-5 years the Eagles accomplish the first of several SB wins.

[patpikunas]

A lot to like about Chip for sure.... but as he said succinctly in PC today, it comes down to players.

If Howie can't prove effective in bringing in talent to fit his system, the team will not reach its goals.

But to sit here today compared to one month ago, its pretty exciting.

[KOJO]

patpikunas, on 17 January 2013 - 11:41 PM, said:

A lot to like about Chip for sure.... but as he said succinctly in PC today, it comes down to players.

If Howie can't prove effective in bringing in talent to fit his system, the team will not reach its goals.

But to sit here today compared to one month ago, its pretty exciting.

I truthfully haven't been this excited since the SB.

[mjkvol]

It's remarkable to what extent Kelly is the "Anti-Reid" - humble yet confident, charismatic, brimming with passion, will tailor his program to fit the talent (!!!) - it's like we're dreaming this.

It's as if Lurie looked at every aspect of what Reid was about and said to Howie and Don "OK, I want the antithesis of that".       Well, he got it.

I know it's only the introductory PC, and all the right things were said, but you'd have to be unconscious not to be fired up as an Eagles fan right now.

It's been a really long time coming, but man, I can't wait for what the off season will bring.        A really long time.

[eagle45]

I love all you guys, but I don't agree with everything in the thread.  First off, I'm not so sure Kelly is the anti-Reid.  I think they actually have a lot in common.  And that's not all BAD, let's not forget AR was a great coach for a while.  I think we are crazy if we don't think Kelly is going to pay very close attention to the things AR did here that worked out well.  He's going to value speed and the passing game much like AR did.  Just like AR, he's a very cerebral coach and will run and call the offense with a similar level of total vertical integration and control.  That's all OK.

I'm happy to have Chip Kelly captain the rebuild, but I also don't expect big things in year 1, not even close.  I think he made it pretty clear he's not in this to turn it around for 2013, he's here to build a winner.  This is a true "build from scratch" hire.  That's rare these days...most coaches are hired to provide some measure of improvement in year 1....whether it's to put a team like the Bears over the top or to provide at least a little life for a dying franchise (Jax/Buff).  2013 is going to be Kelly's year in the lab.  Don't expect much more.

[Runtherock]

eagle45, on 18 January 2013 - 02:00 AM, said:

I love all you guys, but I don't agree with everything in the thread.  First off, I'm not so sure Kelly is the anti-Reid.  I think they actually have a lot in common.  And that's not all BAD, let's not forget AR was a great coach for a while.  I think we are crazy if we don't think Kelly is going to pay very close attention to the things AR did here that worked out well.  He's going to value speed and the passing game much like AR did.  Just like AR, he's a very cerebral coach and will run and call the offense with a similar level of total vertical integration and control.  That's all OK.

I'm happy to have Chip Kelly captain the rebuild, but I also don't expect big things in year 1, not even close.  I think he made it pretty clear he's not in this to turn it around for 2013, he's here to build a winner.  This is a true "build from scratch" hire.  That's rare these days...most coaches are hired to provide some measure of improvement in year 1....whether it's to put a team like the Bears over the top or to provide at least a little life for a dying franchise (Jax/Buff).  2013 is going to be Kelly's year in the lab.  Don't expect much more.

I'm pretty sure the last thing on Kelly's mind is to borrow from or duplicate anything Reid has done, other than win consistently which Reid last managed almost a decade ago. The offense Reid runs is yesterday and played out, he coaches soft and his players quit. Kelly will look at the tape and be disgusted, as well he should. Reid left this team in shambles, and Kelly will sweep out the remaining trash along with any last vestige of Reid's self-contented "we did everything but win a Super Bowl" BS.

[bobbywizdum]

I hope anti-reid doesn't mean anti-winning consistently. Some of you guys give you affection away way too easily. It's easy to be charismatic and fun when you are "brand new". He has no success at this level or any failure yet. I reserve my praise or lack there of for mr. chip based on the product he puts on the field. I could care less if he's funny if he builds a loser. It's one thing to be hopeful and optomistic. It's another to start proclaiming your love for him because he mentioned vermeil in a press conference !! I'm pretty reid and mcnabb have human sided too but look how much they have aged after 14 years in this market !! When the Chips are down that's when we will see how chip responds !! Hard times build character. It's easy to be a front runner.

[mjkvol]

eagle45, on 18 January 2013 - 02:00 AM, said:

I love all you guys, but I don't agree with everything in the thread. First off, I'm not so sure Kelly is the anti-Reid. I think they actually have a lot in common.  And that's not all BAD, let's not forget AR was a great coach for a while.  I think we are crazy if we don't think Kelly is going to pay very close attention to the things AR did here that worked out well. He's going to value speed and the passing game much like AR did.  Just like AR, he's a very cerebral coach and will run and call the offense with a similar level of total vertical integration and control.  That's all OK.

I'm happy to have Chip Kelly captain the rebuild, but I also don't expect big things in year 1, not even close.  I think he made it pretty clear he's not in this to turn it around for 2013, he's here to build a winner. This is a true "build from scratch" hire.  That's rare these days...most coaches are hired to provide some measure of improvement in year 1....whether it's to put a team like the Bears over the top or to provide at least a little life for a dying franchise (Jax/Buff).  2013 is going to be Kelly's year in the lab.  Don't expect much more.

I don't think anyone here is under any illusions that this is a 'quick fix', or is even looking for that given the mess that Reid left.      A primary reason I wanted no part of any retreads, including (maybe especially) guys like Gruden and Cowher was that they would be much more likely to take that approach and set us back even further.

Lurie specifically wanted this treated as a long term solution, which is probably why Kelly (and O'Brien) seemed like attractive candidates.       He wants to replicate the way Reid originally built this thing into a perennial contender, but is clearly cognizant of Reid's weaknesses, which became more the rule as time went on.       From the tone of his comments before starting the coaching search to his comments introducing Kelly, it is clear that in many ways Lurie was looking for the "anti-Reid".

Why else would there be so many references to accountability, avoiding the 'square peg / round hole' syndrome, playing to the strengths of your talent, the team aspect of decision making, etc., etc.       There is no doubt he was looking to go in an entirely different direction.

As far as Kelly valuing the passing game like Reid - have you listened to him, or read about him?      He is about attacking the defense where it is vulnerable with whatever will get the job done, be it on the ground or through the air.     That is the direct antithesis of Reid's arrogant approach of doing it his way regardless of what the defense presents.      The two couldn't be more starkly different in how they want to attack a defense.

[CT Eagle]

I think this is really exciting and that there is a lot to like about Chip.  I just hope it pans out and isn't a case of Lurie trying to think outside the box.

Gus seemed like he was the guy to line the team up and whoop the guy lining up against you.
Chip seems like the guy who is going to out scheme you.
Either system can work.

[CT Eagle]

Rock, Kojo, Mj....you guys should write Andy Reid a nice note thanking him for helping Kelly decide on taking the Eagles job.  Classy move by Reid.

[KOJO]

CT Eagle, on 18 January 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

Rock, Kojo, Mj....you guys should write Andy Reid a nice note thanking him for helping Kelly decide on taking the Eagles job.  Classy move by Reid.

I agree, it was. He certainly didn't have to do that.

[Highboy]

Very excited to see how he drafts.

[DaveSpadaro]

He's been great. I really love Chip. Spent some time with him on Thursday and I totally get why the Eagles wanted him so badly. I am right with you on seeing what's next!

[CT Eagle]

Highboy, on 18 January 2013 - 06:07 PM, said:

Very excited to see how he drafts.

Initially, I would guess Chip will tell Howie they type of players he wants and Howie will be in charge of the selections albeit with Chip's input.

[Runtherock]

CT Eagle, on 18 January 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

Rock, Kojo, Mj....you guys should write Andy Reid a nice note thanking him for helping Kelly decide on taking the Eagles job.  Classy move by Reid.

I'll write Vermeil and thank him for doing the same. Reid is dead to me, and the sooner you get him the hell out of your system the happier I'll be.

[metalhead0043]

PoconoDon, on 17 January 2013 - 11:29 PM, said:

I expect a year 1 of transition, early struggles, and not too many wins. From that point forward I expect the team will get better and better......and I hope in 3-5 years the Eagles accomplish the first of several SB wins.

So, TATE will be calling for his head by week 5?

[Runtherock]

DaveSpadaro, on 18 January 2013 - 06:30 PM, said:

He's been great. I really love Chip. Spent some time with him on Thursday and I totally get why the Eagles wanted him so badly. I am right with you on seeing what's next!

First time I've been excited since McNabb went deep to TO first play in the preseason game against the Ravens. So amped..

[Runtherock]

PoconoDon, on 17 January 2013 - 11:29 PM, said:

I expect a year 1 of transition, early struggles, and not too many wins. From that point forward I expect the team will get better and better......and I hope in 3-5 years the Eagles accomplish the first of several SB wins.

I'm thinking early struggles for sure, new system, new everything, but I'm thinking they finish strong, maybe 8 and 8.

[mjkvol]

Runtherock, on 18 January 2013 - 06:52 PM, said:

I'll write Vermeil and thank him for doing the same. Reid is dead to me, and the sooner you get him the hell out of your system the happier I'll be.

Amen, brother.

[birdog]

Time to climb aboard the Chip Chariot!  (the Gus Bus overheated and broke down on 95)

[VaBeach_Eagle]

Runtherock, on 18 January 2013 - 07:00 PM, said:

First time I've been excited since McNabb went deep to TO first play in the preseason game against the Ravens. So amped..

Winning the NFCCG wasn't exciting? The Miracle at the New Meadowlands wasn't exciting?

[Runtherock]

VaBeach_Eagle, on 18 January 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

Winning the NFCCG wasn't exciting? The Miracle at the New Meadowlands wasn't exciting?

Well, perhaps I exaggerated. Certainly isolated plays excited me. On the other hand I wasn't overly pumped about the NFC Championship win because I was convinced Donny would again gag in the big game and Reid would again be out-coached. Enjoyed the ride but always had a fatalistic view of it.

[Rome]

I remember that throw.  There was maybe 35 people at the pub where I watch games that night and people went absolutely ape**** high-fiving each other like we'd just won the Super Bowl.  It was crazy.   So sad how it turned out, but hey, moments like that are why we watch the games and follow the team so compulsively.    I can't wait until we get to a point where the anticipation for watching games is so acute like it was then.

[mjkvol]

Yeah, the T.O. play against the Ravens was like a jolt of electricity that set the tone for that (almost) amazing year.

My last point of being excited was during the Garcia games in 2006, when it seemed that Reid had taken the last part of the year off - the Cowboy Christmas game was incredible, but the best was the Giants playoff game.      Had to be the only time in the last decade and a half where we actually took three knees before kicking the winning FG, the clock management was so good.

I still believe that was our best shot at a SB aside from '02 and '04 - I still think about that idiotic screen pass to Tapeh in the Saint game that cost us a TD and probably the game.     The one call in the Garcia run that I would credit to Reid.

2008 was just a matter of waiting for Reid to be Reid, and he didn't 'disappoint'.

[badmeetsevil]

The whole 2004 season was magic. From signing Kearse and then eventually ending up with TO. That first preseason throw. Week 1 against the Giants. The two Cowboys games where they embarrassed them. the 14 second play that ended with a 60 yard bomb to Fred Ex. Chad Lewis catching the game winning TD as he tore his foot at the back of the endzone. Dawkins picking up the pylon in celebration.

Yeah we lost but at that time in that moment it was the greatest moment after 3 straight years of frustration. And truthfully I bought into TO being reformed, the problems he had with SF not carrying over to Philly, and even though we lost I thought we would be back to contend right next year.

It was that run and then the completely unexpected run in 08 that had me last super excited. I never thought we would beat the Giants and then when we did I never thought we would lose to the Cardinals. And considering the matchup against the Steelers that might have been a good matchup for the way our team was constructed at the time. The Giants game with the Vick comeback was also awesome. No one at work wanted to talk to me (live in NYC) and I had a huge grin the whole time.

EDIT: Hopefully those great moments come back sooner than later and obviously with much better results.