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#1 DEagle7

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 01:20 PM

A name I haven't heard thrown around a lot, but someone who would fit very well in a hybrid 3-4 system as a pass-rusher.  Yes there are a ton of red-flags (paraphrasing): "athletic monster, but very raw," "Very gifted pass rusher but would need time to develop as a run stopper."  Still he seems like given the right circumstances he could develop into an absolute terror.  Some info from CBS:

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Like most of LSU's top players, Mingo was a highly regarded prep prospect. Unlike the majority of the Tigers, however, he hadn't been highly touted for long as Mingo only began playing football as a junior in high school. Nevertheless, the speed Mingo had demonstrated as a track athlete that led the coaches at West Monroe High School (West Monroe, La.) to convince him to play quickly resulted in his catching the attention of college teams, as well.
Mingo signed with LSU in 2009 but redshirted. Mingo proved himself to be a playmaker once he did get on the field, however, posting 35 tackles, 5.5 tackles for loss, 2.5 sacks and two forced fumbles despite only starting one game (saw action in all 13) in 2010.
Though he'd demonstrated great speed off the edge and uncommon awareness to get those long arms into passing lanes (second on the team with six passes defensed), no one could have foreseen his breakout 2011 campaign. The LSU coaches certainly didn't. Mingo began the season behind veteran Ken Adams at left defensive end and actually only started four games last year. That didn't stop him from registering 46 tackles, including 15 tackles for loss (leading the team) and eight sacks (second on team).
Mingo possesses the frame (6-5, 240 pounds) and athleticism to warrant top 10 consideration, but at this point he remains a largely unpolished product who relies on his natural tools rather than technique to make plays.
Given Mingo's upside, it is easy to imagine him terrorizing NFL quarterbacks off the edge as a multi-dimensional defender. Considering Mingo's relatively pedestrian numbers (38 tackles, 8.5 tackles for loss, 4.5 sacks) this season, however, the junior might have been better served returning to Baton Rouge for his senior season.

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While Mingo might be a bit raw considering he's only started five collegiate games, he is perfectly built for today's frenzied pass rush. He is a long-armed, explosive athlete who plays with surprising power despite his lack of ideal weight.
While a bit inconsistent at the snap, when he times it right Mingo can explode off the ball past the tackle, using a good shoulder dip and surprisingly powerful hands to rip through contact and take the corner.
What is exciting about Mingo is that he's not just a physical freak but a surprisingly instinctive, technically refined football player. Mingo's use of his arms and hands belie his experience. He uses them well to keep distance between himself and the tackle and has a natural feel for pass rushing, showing good lateral agility, flexibility and creativity with his fakes to get the bigger man leaning. He has a very good spin move that he likes to use against interior offensive linemen when stunting back inside. He locates the ball quickly, shows good vision and balance to get to the action and closes with a pop.
Mingo may lack the size of a traditional 4-3 defensive end but with teams becoming increasingly interested in hybrid defenders who can play multiple roles, his weight isn't likely to be a problem. The NFL loves pass rushers and therefore they'll love Mingo. He just might be the best pass rusher in the country and checks in at No. 3 on my Big Board.
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It seems like there are 4 consensus players that should be taken at #4.  Still I wanted to throw out someone different.  Plus I can easily envision a situation where Joeckel, Lotulelei, and Jones are gone before we pick, and no one wants to trade up.  In that situation I wouldn't be opposed to the selection.  More food-for-thought than a "I really hope we get him".

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 01:38 PM

Mingo would be a major reach a 24th overall let alone 4th.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 01:49 PM

View PostK.Dollaz, on 19 January 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

Mingo would be a major reach a 24th overall let alone 4th.

I disagree.  You may not like him at #4 but based on every mock/draft board I've seen I doubt he falls past the Jets at #9 at the latest.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 01:57 PM

And that's still a major reach by an NFL team. He's an average football player.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 02:07 PM

I've seen him and I see a young Jevon Kearse........but thats in college so who knows it's all a crap shoot.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 02:17 PM

I don't like the fact that he basically got shut down by every legitimate NFL caliber OT I saw him go against. Has potential based off his athletic ability.. but I'm not a fan.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:36 PM

Let's just think about this. He's playing on an amazing defense opposite of a great pass rusher Sam Montgomery and yet he still only manages 4.5 sacks his junior year? He doesn't play the run, rushing the passer is his only job and he doesn't even do that at a high level.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:50 PM

View PostNik Sneak, on 19 January 2013 - 02:17 PM, said:

I don't like the fact that he basically got shut down by every legitimate NFL caliber OT I saw him go against. Has potential based off his athletic ability.. but I'm not a fan.
You know the last time they drafted someone for the DL with true athletic ability and explosive potential?  Cox.  Looking good so far.  Last time before that?  They haven't.  

This defense could use a physical freak in the front 7 for once.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 09:55 PM

i was watching the oregon lsu game last night on youtube and mingo def flashed. he exploded into the backfield and ran down lamichael james from behind before he reached the LOS. they said he ran a 4.5 and he could play S for them blah blah blah.. but i wouldnt take him in the 1st or the 2nd.

View Posteagle45, on 19 January 2013 - 09:50 PM, said:

You know the last time they drafted someone for the DL with true athletic ability and explosive potential?  Cox.  Looking good so far.  Last time before that?  They haven't.  

This defense could use a physical freak in the front 7 for once.
Cox was good in college no matter who he went against, he wasnt juts a freak athlete he had the tape to back it up, thats a huge difference

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:28 PM

If we trade back i think mingo would be a good pick for a 3-4

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:30 PM

Would rather have the DE out of A&M but Mingo is special, he will light up the combine.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:10 AM

View Posteagle45, on 19 January 2013 - 09:50 PM, said:

You know the last time they drafted someone for the DL with true athletic ability and explosive potential?  Cox.  Looking good so far.  Last time before that?  They haven't.  

This defense could use a physical freak in the front 7 for once.

You forgot to mention that Cox was an actual difference maker and great player that produced in college.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:15 PM

I would definitely draft him if they're going to a 3-4 or a hybrid scheme.  You cannot discount how flexible he is.  For someone who is 6-4 to have the kind of bend he has is extremely impressive.  Couple that with his once-in-5 years speed around the edge (projected at 4.4).  Flexibility at speed/quickness are the two most important physical attributes of a pure pass rusher in the NFL.  He's also a very long player.

The thing this team lacks is a guy who can make the play.  You can talk about how much you like Trent Cole all you want but I can only remember one time he's ever made a clutch play (Colts game a few years ago; play got called back).  Mingo is a guy who can make the play when you need it the most.  I'd take that guy every time.

Not to mention Mingo has positional flexibility.  I could see him playing RDE in a 4-3 right now, LDE in a 4-3 in a year or 2, and OLB in either a 3-4 or 4-3 scheme.  I love Mingo and think he's a top player in this draft.  It's not all about stats.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 07:59 PM

If we traded back and he was there for us its a possibility. He is going to tear apart the underwear olympics and is going to shoot up draft boards because of it. He hasnt got after the passer a ton in college but he is a little undersized as an 4-3 end. I think his numbers will go up as a 3-4 OLB but I still stay away from him at 4....he doesn't deserve to even be discussed there.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:30 AM

Decided to scout him, and I would not take him at #4. Sure he is a freak athlete and lightning quick, but is also VERY skinny, 240 is generous. He is almost non-existent in run support, and only managed to get 4 sacks last year. Joeckel made him look like a scrub.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 12:41 PM

View PostRobbieb77, on 30 January 2013 - 10:30 AM, said:

Decided to scout him, and I would not take him at #4. Sure he is a freak athlete and lightning quick, but is also VERY skinny, 240 is generous. He is almost non-existent in run support, and only managed to get 4 sacks last year. Joeckel made him look like a scrub.

Yeah did not not look great.  Quick thought: Ansah or Mingo?  Both would be a reach at #4 but just for arguments sake if you had to pick one of these "project" players who would it be?

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 01:58 PM

View PostDEagle7, on 30 January 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

Yeah did not not look great.  Quick thought: Ansah or Mingo?  Both would be a reach at #4 but just for arguments sake if you had to pick one of these "project" players who would it be?
Close but systems aside i'd take Ansah because he is stronger.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:31 PM

He is a good player but his size concerns me and I don't think he is a complete enough player to pick at 4.  I prefer Moore

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 12:55 PM

He's one of my favorite players in the draft.  However, his lack of production is a concern.  I'd like him at 12-14, but not at 4.  I'd love to trade back and find a way to get both this guy and the Georgia NT Jenkins.  That's a great start to the 3-4.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 07:05 AM

The kid is special but by reaching for him the Eagles would ruin the value of the 4th pick

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 07:37 AM

He's too light in the butt for me. I think he'll get pushed around if he isn't protected by massive D-linemen. He'll be this years workout warrior at the combine. LSU have been trying to put weight on this kid for the past 2 years. He's barley 240lbs..

I'd rather have Jones or Moore..

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:51 AM

A trade down for this guy or ansah is cool with me. If we all agree NT is the top priority, then OLB is 1B.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 06:21 PM

Report came out today saying Mingo added 15 pounds.  Earlier I said I thought he was too skinny but with these 15 he's perfect.  Trade down to get him and sign Paul Kruger to have a dangerous pair of rushing OLBs

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:33 PM

Okay this guy is who we can take at #4, he just blazed a 4.59 forty yard dash at 6ft 4" and 241lbs. The guy was a force in SEC during his junior year, his production slipped a bit last year but was good enough for All-Sec. When we switch to 3-4, we are going to need our "DeMarcus Ware", this guy can be just that.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:11 PM

View PostD-Shiznit, on 25 February 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

Okay this guy is who we can take at #4, he just blazed a 4.59 forty yard dash at 6ft 4" and 241lbs. The guy was a force in SEC during his junior year, his production slipped a bit last year but was good enough for All-Sec. When we switch to 3-4, we are going to need our "DeMarcus Ware", this guy can be just that.
Apparently he isn't much of a weight room guy at all, and that is not good at all considering he's only at 241. Really just looked like a speedball rusher this past year. I'm liking Ansah more and more each day.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:37 PM

View PostRobbieb77, on 25 February 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:


Apparently he isn't much of a weight room guy at all, and that is not good at all considering he's only at 241. Really just looked like a speedball rusher this past year. I'm liking Ansah more and more each day.
I agree.  He seems like a complete player

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:21 PM

Starting to want this kid more than Jordan, but not at #4!! His film is just sickening, he's gonna be a star IMO..

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 07:57 PM

Drafted by Cleveland at #6.





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