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[vipakabp916]

First off I want to say that I have looked at all the  Mock Drafts and a lot of them are good but some of them have a lot of FAIRY TAIL aka WISHFUL THINKING picks and trades and FA signees. We have to understand as fans that we cannot have every BIG time player on the FA market or BIG time draft pick (even if we want them)… So I put together something I think that the eagles will do this year… You guys are more than welcome to bash it all you want but I am trying to live in the reality world of what the eagles can, will and going to do…



Restructures:

Michael Vick:  (16.9 mill) If they do not the eagles are going to get hit with 4 mill of dead money...Now I do not think VICK needs to be in Eagles anymore but I am a fan not a coach so I am being bias right now...

Nnamdi Asomugha: (15.3 mil) If they do not the eagles are going to get hit with 4.2 mill of dead money

Cullen Jenkins (5.3 mill) If they do not the eagles are going to get hit with 1.5 mill of dead money

Jason Peters (10.7 mill) Peters has no dead money if we cut him but the eagles want to keep him but they need to  lower his cap number the eagles can give him up front money to lower his cap number

Jason Avant:(2.7 mill) He is making 2.7 mills next year and I love Jason but being a number 3 WR he needs to lower his cap. So do the same to him as they do Peters. Cause if we cut him is dead money is 1.4 mill.



Our Free Agents:

Jake Scoot- Earned a chance to come back a compete for a backup role- 1 year league min

Jon Dorenbos- Most consistent person on our roster… Have to have him back. 2 years 5 mill

Darryl Tapp- He will walk… We Drafted Vinny Curry and Brandon Graham came on strong last year too.

Colt Anderson- Best special team’s guy…and I would love to have him back… but he takes up a roster spot for someone who is an ave Safety… I would let him walk…

Derek Landri- Works hard and plays hard but he can walk

Akeem Jordan-We are going to address this position in the draft so he can walk…

King Dunlap- Dennis Kelly is a better player than he is and has a brighter future so he can walk too

DRC- Honesty he had a very up and down year and he stinks at tackling big time… But at the same time we did see what made him a 1^st round pick sometimes… plus he is on 25 years old and he needs to be coached better… so with the new Head Coach, new DC and coaching staff I believe we keep DRC and get him back to the right kind of player… 3 yrs 21 mill with incentives…



CUTS: People really need to know who is a free agent of our team before they throw them on the cut list.

Demetress Bell  

David Sims

Mat McBriar

Mike Patterson- I love Mike but with health issues the last two years I really think him and the eagles need to make a business decision because his health is more important.

People they will not cut… so get over it…

Nate Allen- Just like DRC, we saw great things at some points of the season (this year and last) and we saw very poor things… I believe he has been playing the wrong position since he came back from injury. He is a FS not a SS… He is better in pass coverage then playing the run… Also with the new Head Coach, new DC and coaching staff I believe they will get him back to the right kind of player.

Danny Watkins- Up till this point he is a bust but he was playing in Howard Mudd system and honestly we saw Todd Herremans decrease from what a pro bowl caliber player to an Ave player the last two years. So I think the system does not work for guys like Danny and Todd… Also he was a first round pick and they will not cut that… they will let his contract end before they cut him. Now I am not saying start him next year or not draft someone… but I would keep him as a backup

Dion Lewis- Why is my question… when he has been given a change in the games he has done well… is he better than our two first backs “NO” but he is better than the injury prone Chris Polk… We keep him as the number 3

Stanley Havili- Why is my question... He has done a good job lead blocking and catching the ball out of the backfield… they did not give him a chance to run the ball so you cannot judge him on that.. but the two things he was told to do he did a great job…

Clay Harbor- They haven’t giving him a chance really… and when he did he did not disappoint use…

Curits Marsh- Why… the few times we say him in the game he did a good job… he is a dime corner or nickel corner no question…



FREE AGENCY:

If we sign anyone from the free agent market it will be to address two places honestly and maybe not even that… I think we go after two players and if we do not get them we stick to the draft… Did the “Dream Team” BS not show us that signing big names is not the way to go? It is a hit or miss with Free Agents…  So I believe that we will try to go after a Safety and an O lineman… They are not going to break the bank for these players (Asomugha, Babin, Jenkins). If we get them we get them if not, all well… build in the draft is better anyway I think… Just look at the Niners, Bal, NE, GB, NO, PITT… those are a few teams that build through the draft with maybe 1 or 2 free agents sprinkled in …



Safety- Jairus Byrd (with Levitre Tagged he might get a tender put on him) or Dashon Goldson he might be able to walk with others needing contracts…

Oline- Andy Levitre (is going to tagged) .. Now I would say Sebastian Vollmer or Branden Albert but both have had back issues and that is a gamble… can anyone say Shawn Andrews…



I like the draft of Oline and Safeties because it is a Deep class.... so i will not be sad if we do not get any Free Agents... outside our own...



TRADES:

St. Louis is not and will not trade their TWO FIRST ROUNDERS… They might trade one and a 2^nd to move up but Jeff Fisher would have to be high and drunk to trade to 1^st round picks when they are in a rebuilding stage and have big needs on the Oline and D line and Jackson is not getting any younger.



So I see use trading down in the first round with St. Louis who needs a LT bad and we will get their first round, 2^nd` round 4^th and next year’s 2^nd to move up and grab Luke Joeckel...

I also see us making one maybe two drafts trades… a player and late pick to move up in the middle rounds of the draft.

For example:  we could trade a forth and Nnamdi Asomugha to move up back into the 4th round(TB trade)

Also we trade Cullen Jenkins and 7th rounds pick to move back up in the 6^th round (CLE TRADE)





DRAFT: WITH OUR TRADE WITH THE RAMS, CLE, and TB



ROUND 1 (STL) 16TH OVERALL: CHANCE WARMACK G, ALABAMA

ROUND 2 (OWN SELCTION) 35TH OVERALL: XAVIER RHODES CB, FLORIDA STATE

ROUND 2 (STL) 46^th OVERALL: ERIC REID, S LSU

ROUND 3 (OWN SELECTION) 67^th OVERALL: DA’RICK RODGERS, WR, TENNESSEE TECH

ROUND 4(TB) 109 OVERALL:  GERALD HODGES, OLB, PENN STATE

ROUND 4 (STL) 98TH OVERALL: TYRANN MATHIEU, CB, LSU

ROUND 5 (OWN SELECTION) 162 OVERALL: KENJON BARNER RB, OREGON

ROUND 6 (CLE) 165 OVERALL: KWAME GEATHERS, NT UGA

ROUND 6 (DEN) 186 OVERALL: RAY RAY ARMSTRONG, S, Miami

ROUND 7 (OWN SELECTION) RYAN ALLEN, P, LOUISIANA TECH



2013 Eagles



QB- Nick Foles, Trent Edwards, FA pick up

RB- Lesean McCoy, Bryce Brown, Kenjon Barner

FB- Stanley Havili

WR1- Jeremy Maclin, Riley Cooper

WR2- Desean Jackson,  Da’ Rick Rodgers

SLOT- Jason Avant, Damairs Johnson

TE- Brent Celek, Clay Habor

LT- Jason Peters, Dennis Kelly

LG- Evan Mathis, Danny Watkins

C- Jason Kelce, Dallas Renyolds

RG-Chance Warmack , Jake Scott

RT- Todd Herremans, Dennis Kelly



RDE- Trent Cole, Vinny Curry

N- Kwame Geathers , Antonio Dixon

DT- Fletcher Cox, Cedric Thorton

LDE- Brandon Graham, Phillip Hunt

Sam-Gerald Hodges , Jamar Chaney  

Will- Mychal Kendricks Casey Matthews

MILB- Demeco Ryans, Rau, Ryan

RCB-DRC, Curtis Marsh

LCB Xavier Rhodes Brandon Hughes

NICKEL- Brandon Boykin, Tyrann Mathieu

FS- Nate Allen, Ray Ray Armstrong ( if we get Jairus Byrd or Dashon Goldson… Ray Ray will be practice squad)

SS- Eric Reid, Kurt Colman



LS- Jon Dorenbros

K- Alex Henery

P- Ryan Allen

[NWMontana]

Great first post......   Geathers you have as Rd 6 talent......   I have him as 3-4 grade......Good effort

B+

[Footballman175]

Stopped reading at restructuring Vick and Nnamdi.

But wait, i continued to read and i see that the Rams ONCE AGAIN give up picks to the Eagles. How could i not have guessed that?

[Asiragusa]

I agree.  I think everyone thinks the rams want to trade up so bad but why would they?  Look how bad we want their first rounders.....don't you think they want those picks too.  They have just as many holes as the eagles.  I like the concept of this draft though.  I like Geathers could play nose tackle if switch to 34 defense and don't want to use number 4 on Star.

[downundermike]

Not Bad.  Don't think we need to draft a RB, and I read somewhere Ray Ray Armstrong is going back to Miami.

[vipakabp916]

Footballman175, on 22 January 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

Stopped reading at restructuring Vick and Nnamdi.

But wait, i continued to read and i see that the Rams ONCE AGAIN give up picks to the Eagles. How could i not have guessed that?

The rames are in need of a LT badly and we need things in other areas... i believe peters comes back and is ready to go and next years draft will have some good Tackles in it and also this is a deep Oline class as well if we choice to add some olinemen... and if Luke Joeckel is there at 4 i believe the eagles phone will be ringing big time... and we will have our choice of trading partners... now the fact that everyone keeps picking the rams is because they have 2 number 1 picks and they can trade one away to get what they really want. ( i never said they will trade both picks).. remember how we got Jason Peters... We had two number ones that year and we traded one of our # 1 picks to get him from the bills... So thats is were we as FANS get the trade with the Rams from...

[Footballman175]

The Rams aren't trading those picks. 2 Luxuries in the middle of the first round.

[vipakabp916]

Footballman175, on 22 January 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

The Rams aren't trading those picks. 2 Luxuries in the middle of the first round.

They will switch with one of them to move up and trade some other things to jump up if need be...

[Spaggiari]

Even though I wouldnt be happy if this is how this offseason would turn out to be, its obvious you put much more thought on it than what I am used to see here.

I can see the Rams using one of their 1st round picks to get into the top 10, I just don´t think they would need to get to the 4th pick to get an O-lineman. Joeckel the more I think of, most likely wont get to the 4th pick so maybe they will target either Eric Fisher if they want a OT or Warmack if they go OG. Both will probably go into the 6-10 range. So I don`t think we are the most likely team that they will trade with.

Don`t have much time now, but the rest of the draft is ok, I like Rhodes and Reid in the 2nd round, and Hodges in the 4th.
Dont like drafting a WR that high (maybe an OL pick for depht there?) and a RB.

[GoEagles614]

It was good until the draft.

Not saying I wouldn't mind the draft, but it's the same as other people's. Be original.

My next one I won't draft any player that I've seen numerous times in an Eagles mock.

[SBorBust]

I agree. It looked alright until the draft.  Then, the first two selections are guys who will already be off the board.  What is the backup plan?

[FeelinPhilly89]

Tyrann mathieu is a 6th or 7th round draft pick at best

[ThaPhenom]

Rhodes shouldnt be there in the second... but I wouldnt mind getting Poyer instead

[GoEagles614]

FeelinPhilly89, on 22 January 2013 - 05:18 PM, said:

Tyrann mathieu is a 6th or 7th round draft pick at best

I disagree. . . someone will take the risk on an X heisman running defensive player.

[ThaPhenom]

GoEagles614, on 22 January 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:

I disagree. . . someone will take the risk on an X heisman running defensive player.

thats also 5'9 and is pretty much forced to play in the slot

[GoEagles614]

ThaPhenom, on 22 January 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

thats also 5'9 and is pretty much forced to play in the slot

You may be right, however, an inch doesn't change everything. If you have speed, ball skills, and know how to take away the ball away you will make an impact in the NFL.

He can blitz, play man, drop back to safety, knows how to scoop and score, knows how to strip footballs out. We'll see at the Senior Bowl of he lines up on the edges.

This man was playing against SEC offenses at a very high level

[philly75]

Doubt very much Warmack falls to #16

[RUEagle]

Everyone seriously needs to come to terms with A.  The bills will desperately try to re-sign Byrd.  B.  if they don't, they most certainly will franchise tag him.  Franchising a safety isn't that bad financially.

[Ray75]

Great job! Love the idea getting Warmack, Rhodes and Reid with the first 3 picks, Hodges with the 4th and Geathers with the 6th! Like RUEagle said; don't think Buffalo lets Byrd walk but Goldson or Moore (Atlanta) might be available! Again; like your mock!!!

[vipakabp916]

GoEagles614, on 22 January 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:

It was good until the draft.

Not saying I wouldn't mind the draft, but it's the same as other people's. Be original.

My next one I won't draft any player that I've seen numerous times in an Eagles mock.

HERE IS MY 2ND DRAFT YALL...

ROUND 1 (BUF) 8TH OVERALL: ERIC FISHER, OT, CENTRAL MICHIGAN
ROUND 2 (OWN SELCTION) 35TH OVERALL: XAVIER RHODES CB, FLORIDA STATE   
ROUND 2 (STL) 41ST OVERALL: ERIC REID, S LSU   
67th OVERALL: GERALD HODGES, OLB, PENN S
ROUND 4 (OWN SELECTION) 98TH OVERALL: E.J MANUEL, QB, FLORDIA ST
ROUND 4(TB) 109 OVERALL: QUINTON PATTON, WR, LOUISIANA TECH
ROUND 5 (OWN SELECTION) 162 OVERALL: KWAME GEATHERS, DT, GEORGIA
ROUND 6 (CLE) 165 OVERALL: DAVID QUESSENBERRY,G/T, SAN JOSE STATE
ROUND 6 (DEN) 186 OVERALL: D.J. SWEARINGER, S, SOUTH CAROLINA
ROUND 7 (OWN SELECTION) RYAN ALLEN, P, LOUISIANA
2013 Eagles

QB- Nick Foles, E.J MANUEL, Trent Edwards,
RB- Lesean McCoy, Bryce Brown, Dion Lewis
FB- Stanley Havili
WR1- Jeremy Maclin, Riley Cooper
WR2- Desean Jackson, QUINTON PATTON
SLOT- Jason Avant, Damairs Johnson
TE- Brent Celek, Clay Habor
LT- Jason Peters, Dennis Kelly
LG- Evan Mathis, Danny Watkins
C- Jason Kelce, Dallas Renyolds
RG- Todd Herremans, Jake Scott
RT- ERIC FISHER, DAVID QUESSENBERRY
RDE- Trent Cole, Vinny Curry
N- KWAME GEATHERS , Antonio Dixon
DT- Fletcher Cox, Cedric Thorton
LDE- Brandon Graham, Phillip Hunt
Sam-GERALD HODGES, Jamar Chaney
Will- Mychal Kendricks Casey Matthews
MILB- Demeco Ryans, Rau, Ryan
RCB-DRC, Curtis Marsh
LCB XAVIER RHODES Brandon Hughes
NICKEL- Brandon Boykin, Trevard Lindley
FS- Nate Allen, D.J. SWEARINGER
SS- ERIC REID, Kurt Colman
LS- Jon Dorenbros
K- Alex Henery
P- RYAN ALLEN

[ThaPhenom]

GoEagles614, on 22 January 2013 - 08:41 PM, said:

You may be right, however, an inch doesn't change everything. If you have speed, ball skills, and know how to take away the ball away you will make an impact in the NFL.

He can blitz, play man, drop back to safety, knows how to scoop and score, knows how to strip footballs out. We'll see at the Senior Bowl of he lines up on the edges.

This man was playing against SEC offenses at a very high level

are you serious? why dont you play him against calvin johnson or aj green or any receiver thats like 6'1/6'2... you'll understand very quickly how that "1 inch" is a big deal lol

[GoEagles614]

ThaPhenom, on 23 January 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:

are you serious? why dont you play him against calvin johnson or aj green or any receiver thats like 6'1/6'2... you'll understand very quickly how that "1 inch" is a big deal lol

I never said I wanted the kid. If the Eagles can draft Boykin, someone wil latke Matheiu lol.

Antoine Winfield was only able to play slot His entire career.

Same with Bradom Flowers Tim Jennings.

At 5'9 or 5'10 there are a dozen outside CBs

[Ray75]

vipakabp916, on 23 January 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:

HERE IS MY 2ND DRAFT YALL...

ROUND 1 (BUF) 8TH OVERALL: ERIC FISHER, OT, CENTRAL MICHIGAN
ROUND 2 (OWN SELCTION) 35TH OVERALL: XAVIER RHODES CB, FLORIDA STATE   
ROUND 2 (STL) 41ST OVERALL: ERIC REID, S LSU   
67th OVERALL: GERALD HODGES, OLB, PENN S
ROUND 4 (OWN SELECTION) 98TH OVERALL: E.J MANUEL, QB, FLORDIA ST
ROUND 4(TB) 109 OVERALL: QUINTON PATTON, WR, LOUISIANA TECH
ROUND 5 (OWN SELECTION) 162 OVERALL: KWAME GEATHERS, DT, GEORGIA
ROUND 6 (CLE) 165 OVERALL: DAVID QUESSENBERRY,G/T, SAN JOSE STATE
ROUND 6 (DEN) 186 OVERALL: D.J. SWEARINGER, S, SOUTH CAROLINA
ROUND 7 (OWN SELECTION) RYAN ALLEN, P, LOUISIANA
2013 Eagles

QB- Nick Foles, E.J MANUEL, Trent Edwards,
RB- Lesean McCoy, Bryce Brown, Dion Lewis
FB- Stanley Havili
WR1- Jeremy Maclin, Riley Cooper
WR2- Desean Jackson, QUINTON PATTON
SLOT- Jason Avant, Damairs Johnson
TE- Brent Celek, Clay Habor
LT- Jason Peters, Dennis Kelly
LG- Evan Mathis, Danny Watkins
C- Jason Kelce, Dallas Renyolds
RG- Todd Herremans, Jake Scott
RT- ERIC FISHER, DAVID QUESSENBERRY
RDE- Trent Cole, Vinny Curry
N- KWAME GEATHERS , Antonio Dixon
DT- Fletcher Cox, Cedric Thorton
LDE- Brandon Graham, Phillip Hunt
Sam-GERALD HODGES, Jamar Chaney
Will- Mychal Kendricks Casey Matthews
MILB- Demeco Ryans, Rau, Ryan
RCB-DRC, Curtis Marsh
LCB XAVIER RHODES Brandon Hughes
NICKEL- Brandon Boykin, Trevard Lindley
FS- Nate Allen, D.J. SWEARINGER
SS- ERIC REID, Kurt Colman
LS- Jon Dorenbros
K- Alex Henery
P- RYAN ALLEN

If that were to happen, it would be awesome! Fisher is the second best OT in the draft, Rhodes the second CB and Reid one of the best Safeties. Capping it of with Hodges, Manuel, Patton and Geathers. Would love that to happen! What a great draft would that be!

[ThaPhenom]

GoEagles614, on 23 January 2013 - 09:50 PM, said:

I never said I wanted the kid. If the Eagles can draft Boykin, someone wil latke Matheiu lol.

Antoine Winfield was only able to play slot His entire career.

Same with Bradom Flowers Tim Jennings.

At 5'9 or 5'10 there are a dozen outside CBs

5'10 is small but playable, 5'9 not so much, and ya i know some one will take him lol, some one who needs a slot CB
but like you said we have Boykin so why would we need him.... picking Mathieu at all would be bad for us

[kitko60]

You say Avant makes too much at 2.7 million yet you are paying the long snapper, who only long snaps, 2.5 million a year?

[downundermike]

kitko60, on 24 January 2013 - 01:02 PM, said:

You say Avant makes too much at 2.7 million yet you are paying the long snapper, who only long snaps, 2.5 million a year?

He also entertains the players with his magic shows.

[phillygrump]

Not a bad job. I think you undervalue the 4th pick in trades. Yes I think St. Louis would not trade 2 firsts for the 4th pick, but 16 and a 2nd is not enough to move up 12 spots in the first round. Look what Atlanta gave up for Julio Jones. Look what Washington gave up for RGIII. I doubt there is a player of either caliber at 4 that is worth the trade, but Julio Jones or RGIII are worth 2 middle first round picks.

Top 5 picks are valuable. Now more than ever since they don't cost as much as they used to in guaranteed money. It certainly costs way more than an extra 2nd to move up.

[Pegger]

I dislike the font you use. Why make it smaller? It's almost as annoying as the people who constantly make their font bigger or keep the caps lock on. I understand we all should be unique, but seriously it's written communincation, not picking a wardrobe.

[Pegger]

My thoughts on your draft:

ROUND 1 (BUF) 8TH OVERALL: ERIC FISHER, OT, CENTRAL MICHIGAN - Solid pick. Might not be there.
ROUND 2 (OWN SELCTION) 35TH OVERALL: XAVIER RHODES CB, FLORIDA STATE - That's where many think he'll be. IMO there will be corner options at that spot.
ROUND 2 (STL) 41ST OVERALL: ERIC REID, S LSU - Don't like him as an NFL safety. Seems to have limited range in coverage. Good ball skills, but that's when the ball is thrown right at him.
67th OVERALL: GERALD HODGES, OLB, PENN S - Solid pick. No problems there.
ROUND 4 (OWN SELECTION) 98TH OVERALL: E.J MANUEL, QB, FLORDIA ST - Do you really think he falls that far? If anything he took a step forward at the Senior Bowl and athletically is very interesting.
ROUND 4(TB) 109 OVERALL: QUINTON PATTON, WR, LOUISIANA TECH - Another Senior Bowl bumper. Might not be there.
ROUND 5 (OWN SELECTION) 162 OVERALL: KWAME GEATHERS, DT, GEORGIA - Can't comment. Don't know him.
ROUND 6 (CLE) 165 OVERALL: DAVID QUESSENBERRY,G/T, SAN JOSE STATE - Really doubt he's a 6th rounder. Mayock was lovin the guy all week of Sr. Bowl practices.
ROUND 6 (DEN) 186 OVERALL: D.J. SWEARINGER, S, SOUTH CAROLINA - Can't comment. Don't know him.
ROUND 7 (OWN SELECTION) RYAN ALLEN, P, LOUISIANA - Sure.

[Footballman175]

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