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#1 Whitemoose

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:36 PM

Would you trade Foles and our first to the Chiefs for their 1st.... On the surface it may be an easy yes or no.  However, considering it would go to Andy does that change your opinion?

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:38 PM

No, is there one player that is worth trading up for?

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:38 PM

Your idea is beyond retarded.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:42 PM

It cost the Skins 2 firsts and a second to move from 4 to 2 last year, no?

Foles isn't worth a ton, even to Andy.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:43 PM

Keep and start Vick.
Then, next year, take Clowney 1st overall.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:47 PM

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View Postcbassdmb, on 22 January 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

No, is there one player that is worth trading up for?

I like Joeckel.. but yes I don't think any of them are that much better than either.. I am really not against the idea of trading down if we pick up an extra first next year. My question I guess is more about how much we as fanes like Foles and if we should be against trading with Andy Reid.

View PostBlackPooL, on 22 January 2013 - 06:42 PM, said:

It cost the Skins 2 firsts and a second to move from 4 to 2 last year, no?

Foles isn't worth a ton, even to Andy.

Different draft, different values .. no Luck or RG3 in this draft.  That being said I doubt the Chiefs would either, it a question would you as an Eagles fan.  I am not sure, if I would take the chance the Reid could turn him into an all-pro.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:48 PM

View PostHey Suess, on 22 January 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:

Keep and start Vick.
Then, next year, take Clowney 1st overall.

LOL

I get it

#8 macgregor

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:16 PM

You've tried every other idea to move him. You're really grasping at straws now.

No he didn't answer the question 'is he the future?' yet, but neither would Tom Brady behind that line(is that a comparison?) That oline, that team had packed it in by the time he got to start again after going 4-0 pre-season. I need no further proof that Reid is a jackarse. If you thought he had any chance to succeed with the junk time they gave him, your dix lose.

Starting the season like Vick did, that's different. We had an awesome oline. Between Mudd's schemes and Vick's requirements they fell.  You can lie to yourself(as I know you are) but don't expect any BS comparisons of 9 and 7 to hold water with me. Foles will be remembered as the guy who replaced Vick, hated as much as the guy who replaced McNabb. These 2 dimensional ignorant blowards can't see beyond that.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:20 PM

I'm happy at 4. Was difficult to watch but being at 4 is alright

Well actually I have no problem with trading down either

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:28 PM

View PostBlackPooL, on 22 January 2013 - 06:42 PM, said:

It cost the Skins 2 firsts and a second to move from 4 to 2 last year, no?

Foles isn't worth a ton, even to Andy.
It's different when the first 2 picks are Luck and RG3...No one even knows who the #1 pick will be...There is no clear cut answer.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:28 PM

Why?

Dee Milliner will still be there at 4. :D

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:30 PM

There is no way that is enough to trade up.  Foles does not make up the difference between 4 and 1, not even close.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:43 PM

Rather keep Foles and our pick

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:43 PM

View PostWhitemoose, on 22 January 2013 - 06:36 PM, said:

Would you trade Foles and our first to the Chiefs for their 1st.... On the surface it may be an easy yes or no.  However, considering it would go to Andy does that change your opinion?

It is an easy no. There is no player worth trading up for.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:14 PM

View Post#99, on 22 January 2013 - 07:30 PM, said:

There is no way that is enough to trade up.  Foles does not make up the difference between 4 and 1, not even close.

The funny thing is, he actually does if:
1. You like him more than this years draft.
2. You are drafting a QB in the first as you are that desperate.

Because, you believe you shall get a better QB than what you will be able to get in the draft and a number 4 draft pick!

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:18 PM

View Postmihailo, on 22 January 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

The funny thing is, he actually does if:
1. You like him more than this years draft.
2. You are drafting a QB in the first as you are that desperate.

Because, you believe you shall get a better QB than what you will be able to get in the draft and a number 4 draft pick!

The top QBs in this draft have just as much, probably more potential than Foles.  The Foles love on this MB is out of hand.  Nobody is giving up anything for Nick Foles.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:19 PM

Why do people keep throwing this trade out there?


Get a grip

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:20 PM

View PostWhitemoose, on 22 January 2013 - 06:47 PM, said:

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I like Joeckel.. but yes I don't think any of them are that much better than either.. I am really not against the idea of trading down if we pick up an extra first next year. My question I guess is more about how much we as fanes like Foles and if we should be against trading with Andy Reid.


A) Why would I care about trading with Andy? I'd trade with Satan himself (Jerry Jones) if the deal is good enough. What...am I not supposed to want to trade with the Chiefs because Andy is there? Like one of those "I'm not talking to you anymore." situations?

B) Just because I like Foles doesn't mean I wouldnt trade him. He's alright. But he hasn't proven himself to be a franchise QB.

...the more you try to explain this thread, the weirder it gets.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:24 PM

View PostWhitemoose, on 22 January 2013 - 06:36 PM, said:

Would you trade Foles and our first to the Chiefs for their 1st.... On the surface it may be an easy yes or no.  However, considering it would go to Andy does that change your opinion?

Hey! If the moon was made of cheese, would you eat it?!

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:24 PM

View PostHey Suess, on 22 January 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:

Keep and start Vick.
Then, next year, take Clowney 1st overall.
You are a complete idiot, dummy

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:41 PM

I'd rather trade down in this draft.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:29 PM

View PostLloyd, on 22 January 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

A) Why would I care about trading with Andy? I'd trade with Satan himself (Jerry Jones) if the deal is good enough. What...am I not supposed to want to trade with the Chiefs because Andy is there? Like one of those "I'm not talking to you anymore." situations?

B) Just because I like Foles doesn't mean I wouldnt trade him. He's alright. But he hasn't proven himself to be a franchise QB.

...the more you try to explain this thread, the weirder it gets.

What?  Didn't you watch the Bucs game?

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:34 PM

Absolutely the worst idea I've ever heard, even in TATE. Absurd. Not even the least bit fathomable.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:34 PM

STOP...just STOP!!

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:41 PM

View Postheavywchamp, on 22 January 2013 - 11:29 PM, said:

What?  Didn't you watch the Bucs game?
And just what if Foles turns out to be a stud? If anything the Tampa game with a hopeless team or the 4-0 pre-season while we still had hope should tell you there's reason to see how the rookie improves with an off-season as starter. I mean, isn't that just logical? What was everyone saying about an 8-8 Vick? Trade him? Go QB 1st round in the draft? Really?

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:47 PM

Yea...no..

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:47 PM

View Postmacgregor, on 22 January 2013 - 11:41 PM, said:

And just what if Foles turns out to be a stud? If anything the Tampa game with a hopeless team or the 4-0 pre-season while we still had hope should tell you there's reason to see how the rookie improves with an off-season as starter. I mean, isn't that just logical? What was everyone saying about an 8-8 Vick? Trade him? Go QB 1st round in the draft? Really?

Man if we we would've been more aggressive and jumped ahead of Seattle and grabbed Wilson.  We would be set for the long haul because it looks like he is poised to be the best QB from that draft.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 12:29 AM

View Postheavywchamp, on 22 January 2013 - 11:47 PM, said:

Man if we we would've been more aggressive and jumped ahead of Seattle and grabbed Wilson.  We would be set for the long haul because it looks like he is poised to be the best QB from that draft.
dont think anybody saw Seattle grabbing a 3rd round QB after acquiring Matt Flynn and signing him to a big contract. ANd I will still take Luck over Wilson. If Luck had the run game and defense Seattle had his numbers would have been absurd. Instead he was the guy on the team

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:31 AM

View PostHey Suess, on 22 January 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:

Keep and start Vick.
Then, next year, take Clowney 1st overall.

If we are drafting number 1 next year and we take Clowney over Bridgewater....wow.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:26 PM

View PostHey Suess, on 22 January 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:

Keep and start Vick.
Then, next year, take Clowney 1st overall.

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