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[vipakabp916]

Ok now if people would really read what i put then this would not be said... I said with Levitre ( who is Bul best Olinemen and a free agent) he is going to get Tagged they are not going to let him test the market at all.. now as far as Bird goes IF and i say IF he tests the market we try to go after him but do not break the bank for him... but i think he is going to get a First round tender put on him... so we will not have a chance for him... and i honest dont think we need him with the Deep Safety class...  

Now for everyone that said what would be my back up draft picks if the we can’t get what iput the first time... well here it is yall...

DRAFT: I WOULD TRADE DOWN WITH BUF AND TAKE THERE 1 AND 2 ROUND PICK(According to the draft chart the value of our pick is 1800 and the value of the Bills pick is 1400, and their 2nd round pick is 450... so we through in a 5 round pick for next year and thats a good trade) ... ALL I WOULD STILL TRADE WITH TB AND CLE LATER ON IN THE DRAFT...

ROUND 1 (BUF) 8th OVERALL: ERIC FISHER, OT, CENTRAL MICHIGAN (WITH THIS PICK WE CAN PUT FISHER AT RT AND SLIDE TODD TO RIGHT GUARD AND HE CAN START FROM DAY 1) IF FISHER IS NOT THERE I WOULD GO WITH LANE JOHNSON... HE STOCK IS RISING CAUSE OF THE SENIOR BOWL PRACTICE...

ROUND 2 (OWN SELCTION) 35TH OVERALL: XAVIER RHODES CB, FLORIDA STATE  (IF RHODES IS GONE BY THIS TIME I WOULD GO WITH...DAVD AMERSON, CB, N.C. State- I WOULD HAVE SAID JORDAN POYER, CB, Oregon State BUT HE IS MORE OF A COVER 2 CB... IF YOU WATCH HIM PLAY HE IS GREAT ON ANYTHING BETWEEN 0-10 YARDS BUT HE STRUGGLES WITH ANYTHING OVER 10 YARDS... MEANING ANY MAN TO MAN STUFF... HE IS AN ASANTE SAMUEL... HE TRIES TO READ ROUTES AND JUMP THEM...DO NOT GET ME WRONG HE IS A GOOD PLAYER... I JUST THINK WILL DAVD AMERSON HIGHET AT 6'3 AND 195 POUND AND BALL HAWKING SKILL,  HE WOULD BE A BETTER FIT FOR THE STYLE OF D THE EAGLES NEED TO GET BACK TO...

ROUND 2 (BUF) 41st  OVERALL: T.J MCDONALD, S, USC ... HE HAS THE SIZE AND THE SPEED AT 6-2. Weight: 205. TO KEEP UP WITH THE FREAK TE'S IN THE LEAGUE AND WILL COME DOWN HILL AND HIT YOU... HE IS HAVING A GREAT SENIOR BOWL WEEK RIGHT NOW AND ALSO HE IS A WAY BETTER ATHLETE THEN THE S THAT CAME OUT TWO YEARS AGO "TAYLOR MAYS"

ROUND 3 (OWN SELECTION) 67th OVERALL: GERALD HODGES, OLB, PENN STATE... I LIKE ARTHUR BROWN, LB, KANSAS STATE BUT I LIKE HODGES ALOT BETTER AND THIS IS WHY...  THIS IS WHY I LIKE ALOT BETTER BECAUSE HE HAS THE SAME TOOLS AT BROWN DOES BUT HE HAS THE SIZE THAT BROWN LACKS....ARTHUR BROWN, LB, KANSAS STATE IS 6'1 228... YES HE IS THE BROTHER OF OUR BRICE BROWN... HE CAN RUN, HE IS PHYISCAL AND HE CAN COVER... HE WAS THE LEADER ON THE K-STATE D AND HE WOULD FIT NICELY AT THE SAM BUT HE DOES NEED TO PUT ON SOME WEIGHT AND WE NEED SOMEONE WHO CAN FILL IN FROM DAY ONE AND PLAY...

ROUND 4 (OWN SELECTION) 98TH OVERALL: E.J MANUEL, QB, FLORDIA STATE... NOW I KNOW EVERYONE IS SAY WHY...WHAT THE HELL... LOOK WE ALL KNOW THAT THE EAGLES ARE GOING TO ADDRESS THE QB POSITION THROUGH THE DRAFT... AND THE BEST QB IN THE LATER ROUNDS WILL BE THIS MAN... HE MOVES WELL IN AND OUT OF THE POCKET AND HE HAS A GOOD ARM AND IS PRETTY ACCURACTE... HE DOES HAVE TO WORK ON HIS POCKET PASSING AS HE IS BETTER OUTSIDE THE POCKET AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THE O LOOKS LIKE HERE WILL DEPEND ON WHAT THEY DO WITH HIM...

ROUND 4(TB) 109 OVERALL: QUINTON PATTON, WR, LOUISIANA TECH (NOW Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech IS MY FIRST CHIOCE IF HE IS HERE... HE HAS ALOT OF THE SAME TRAITS AS RANDY MOSS COMING OUT OF SCHOOL... 1 ROUND TALENT BUT 3RD OR 4TH ROUND OFF THE FIELD ISSUES...) SO I AM GOING WITH QUINTON PATTON HERE... WHY YOU SAY... WELL THIS IS WHY... HE IS 6'2 200... HE FIGHTS FOR THE BALL IN THE AIR... HE RUNS GOOD ROUTES AND HE IS PHYSICAL... SOMETHING THAT WE LACK AT WR... HE HAS A SWAGGER ABOUT HE AND AN ATTITUDE ABOUT HIM... MEANING A CHIP ON HIS SHOULDER FOR BEING PASTED ON BY BIGGER SCHOOLS... HE IS ALSO HAVING A GREAT SENIOR BOWL WEEK RIGHT NOW...

ROUND 5 (OWN SELECTION) 162 OVERALL: KWAME GEATHERS, DT, GEORGIA... DEPENDS ON IF WE ARE MOVING TO A 3-4 OR NOT...HE WOULD BE A GOOD NOSE FOR USE AND HE WOULD ROTATE IN WITH DIXON AT THAT POSITION   IF WE ARE HE IS A PERFECT FIT... IF WE STAYING AT A 4-3 HE WOULD BE GOOD FOR US ON RUNNING DOWNS AND GOAL LINE...

ROUND 6 (CLE) 165 OVERALL: DAVID QUESSENBERRY,G/T, SAN JOSE STATE... 6'6 300...HAS GREAT FEET AND IS PHYISCAL... HE IS AT THE SENIOR BOWL AND HE HAS BEEN A BIG SURPRISE TO THE SCOUTS THERE.. MY OLD COLLEGE TEAMMATE IS THE OLINE COACH AT SAN JOSE STATE AND TOLD ME TO WATCH OUT FOR THIS KID...HE TOLD ME THAT HE HAS ALL THE TOOLS TO BE A STARTER IN THE NFL AT G OR AT RT AND HE IS GETTING BOTH LOOKS AT THE SENIOR BOWL TOO... HE WOULD BE DEPTH FOR OUR OLINE...

ROUND 6 (DEN) 186 OVERALL: D.J. SWEARINGER, S, SOUTH CAROLINA... SWEARINGER HAS A NICE COMBINATION OF SPEED AND INSTINCTS. HE COULD BE A NICE FREE SAFETY PROSPECT.

ROUND 7 (OWN SELECTION) Josh Hubner, P, ASU.... WE NEED SOMEONE WHO CAN PUT AND DO IT WELL ALL THE TIME...

2013 Eagles

QB- Nick Foles, E.J MANUEL, Trent Edwards,
RB- Lesean McCoy, Bryce Brown, Dion Lewis
FB- Stanley Havili
WR1- Jeremy Maclin, Riley Cooper
WR2- Desean Jackson, QUINTON PATTON
SLOT- Jason Avant, Damairs Johnson
TE- Brent Celek, Clay Habor
LT- Jason Peters, Dennis Kelly
LG- Evan Mathis, Danny Watkins
C- Jason Kelce, Dallas Renyolds
RG- Todd Herremans, Jake Scott
RT- ERIC FISHER, DAVID QUESSENBERRY
RDE- Trent Cole, Vinny Curry
N- Kwame Geathers , Antonio Dixon
DT- Fletcher Cox, Cedric Thorton
LDE- Brandon Graham, Phillip Hunt
Sam-Gerald Hodges, Jamar Chaney
Will- Mychal Kendricks Casey Matthews
MILB- Demeco Ryans, Rau, Ryan
RCB-DRC, Curtis Marsh
LCB Xavier Rhodes Brandon Hughes
NICKEL- Brandon Boykin, Trevard Lindley
FS- Nate Allen, D.J. SWEARINGER (if we get Jairus Byrd or Dashon Goldson… D.J. will be practice squad)
SS- T.J MCDONALD, Kurt Colman
LS- Jon Dorenbros
K- Alex Henery
P- Josh Hubner

[kitko60]

I will say it again, I hate the idea of taking a RT in the top 10.  I don't see a tackle in this draft better than Peters hell I don't see a tackle in the NFL better than Peters.  He's had enough time off to come back 100%.  If you want OL in the top 10, for the Eagles, you take Warmack.  Plug him in at RG for at least the next 10 years.  None of these tackles, including Joeckel, are sure fire no misses so you take a player that looks dominant on film, Warmack.  With the RG that I expect Warmack to be in the NFL we will be fine with leaving Herremans at RT.

I'm all for staying at 4 and getting Star or Jarvis to start this transition to a hybrid 3/4-4/3 multiple front package.  I think both of these guys can find a spot in the 4-3 to excel at too, Star at DT(Cox and him= domination) and Jarvis Jones can be used as LB, DE in pass sets or a Von Miller hybrid role.

I also want to see what happens with Teo.  If he slips to the 2nd round do we draft him?  He should be able to play MLB in 4-3 or 3-4 sets.

[downundermike]

TJ McDonald sucks

[GoEagles614]

Someone found the enter button a few too many times.

[vipakabp916]

kitko60, on 23 January 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

I will say it again, I hate the idea of taking a RT in the top 10.  I don't see a tackle in this draft better than Peters hell I don't see a tackle in the NFL better than Peters.  He's had enough time off to come back 100%.  If you want OL in the top 10, for the Eagles, you take Warmack.  Plug him in at RG for at least the next 10 years.  None of these tackles, including Joeckel, are sure fire no misses so you take a player that looks dominant on film, Warmack.  With the RG that I expect Warmack to be in the NFL we will be fine with leaving Herremans at RT.

I'm all for staying at 4 and getting Star or Jarvis to start this transition to a hybrid 3/4-4/3 multiple front package.  I think both of these guys can find a spot in the 4-3 to excel at too, Star at DT(Cox and him= domination) and Jarvis Jones can be used as LB, DE in pass sets or a Von Miller hybrid role.

I also want to see what happens with Teo.  If he slips to the 2nd round do we draft him?  He should be able to play MLB in 4-3 or 3-4 sets.

1st of all no one said we are going to or need to replace Peters... We need to kill two birds with one stone... what i mean by that is that we need to move todd back to G where he was TEN TIMES better then at T... and we need to get our 1st round bust out of the starting line up forever... so how do we do that... we draft a T that can play the right side and slide Todd back to G... now Peters is on the other side of 30 and so is todd and so is Mathis... you have to start thinking about what happens next season when Peters is a free agent... and todd and mathis are 33 and 32 years old... when do you get younger...

Look at the 49ers...they started up front... they drafted 3 olinemen in the first 2 rounds 3 years ago and they all start now... we have the skill players.. maybe one more WR to go with the two little men on the outside and the old man in the slot... but we need to get our Oline right... on D we need a DT, 2 Safeties, 1 CB and an OLB... if we trade back in the first round we can address 3 of those issues on top of killing 2 birds with one pick... we address our rt side of our Oline with the Fisher pick.. Then with the Rhodes pick he teams up with DRC... Yes with new coaching he will be better... we say good and bad from him... but the good shows he can do it all time and the bad is him being lazy... I picked Reid from LSU in my first Mock Draft but people cried and said he will not be there so whos next.... Well i like what i saw from McDonald... he has all the tools to be a good Safety in the NFL with the right coaching... No one thought Jerry Rice would be the best to ever play coming out of college but with good coaching and to good QB look what he did... Now i am not saying McDonald will be a HOF but i am saying with good coaching he will be solid...

So with the 1st 3 picks we got 4 position of need adressed... RT, RG, C, SS.. Now we address OLB, DT, and another S... the Safety class is a very deep one... so we can get two good SS in this draft...

Here is my first draft...   Here is my "Backup" plan...

DRAFT:  WE MAKES TRADES WITH THE RAMS, CLE, and TB   DRAFT: WE MAKE TRADES WITH  THE BILLS, CLE AND TB



ROUND 1 (STL) 16TH OVERALL: CHANCE WARMACK G, ALABAMA   ROUND 1 (BUF) 8TH OVERALL: ERIC FISHER, OT, CENTRAL MICHIGAN

ROUND 2 (OWN SELCTION) 35TH OVERALL: XAVIER RHODES CB, FLORIDA STATE    ROUND 2 (OWN) 35TH OVERALL: SAME PICK

ROUND 2 (STL) 46^th OVERALL: ERIC REID, S LSU    ROUND 3 (BUF) 41ST OVERALL: T.J MCDONALD, S, USC  

ROUND 3 (OWN SELECTION) 67^th OVERALL: DA’RICK RODGERS, WR, TENNESSEE TECH ROUND 3 (OWN SELECTION) 67th OVERALL: GERALD HODGES, OLB, PENN S

ROUND 4(TB) 109 OVERALL: GERALD HODGES, OLB, PENN STATE   ROUND 4 (OWN SELECTION) 98TH OVERALL: E.J MANUEL, QB, FLORDIA ST

ROUND 4 (STL) 98TH OVERALL: TYRANN MATHIEU, CB, LSU ROUND 4(TB) 109 OVERALL: QUINTON PATTON, WR, LOUISIANA TECH

ROUND 5 (OWN SELECTION) 162 OVERALL: KENJON BARNER RB, OREGON ROUND 5 (OWN SELECTION) 162 OVERALL: KWAME GEATHERS, DT, GEORGIA

ROUND 6 (CLE) 165 OVERALL: KWAME GEATHERS, NT UGA    ROUND 6 (CLE) 165 OVERALL: DAVID QUESSENBERRY,G/T, SAN JOSE STATE

ROUND 6 (DEN) 186 OVERALL: RAY RAY ARMSTRONG, S, Miami   ROUND 6 (DEN) 186 OVERALL: D.J. SWEARINGER, S, SOUTH CAROLINA

ROUND 7 (OWN SELECTION) RYAN ALLEN, P, LOUISIANA TECH ROUND 7 (OWN SELECTION) Josh Hubner, P, ASU



NOW I LIKE MY FIRST MOCK DRAFT BUT I LIKE SOME ONE MY BACK UP PLANS AS WELL...

SO ILL PUT THEM TOGETHER AND THIS IS WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD DO....



ROUND 1 (BUF) 8TH OVERALL: ERIC FISHER, OT, CENTRAL MICHIGAN

ROUND 2 (OWN SELCTION) 35TH OVERALL: XAVIER RHODES CB, FLORIDA STATE   

ROUND 2 (STL) 41ST OVERALL: ERIC REID, S LSU   

67th OVERALL: GERALD HODGES, OLB, PENN S

ROUND 4 (OWN SELECTION) 98TH OVERALL: E.J MANUEL, QB, FLORDIA ST

ROUND 4(TB) 109 OVERALL: QUINTON PATTON, WR, LOUISIANA TECH

ROUND 5 (OWN SELECTION) 162 OVERALL: KWAME GEATHERS, DT, GEORGIA

ROUND 6 (CLE) 165 OVERALL: DAVID QUESSENBERRY,G/T, SAN JOSE STATE

ROUND 6 (DEN) 186 OVERALL: D.J. SWEARINGER, S, SOUTH CAROLINA

ROUND 7 (OWN SELECTION) RYAN ALLEN, P, LOUISIANA


I THINK THIS IS A NICE DRAFT... BUT I WILLHAVE A FEW HATERS OUT THERE....SO DO WHAT YOU DO BEST.. .HATE HAHAH JUST PLAYING... NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE EAGLES ARE GOING TO DO BUT IT IS FUN GUESSING...


2013 Eagles
QB- Nick Foles, E.J MANUEL, Trent Edwards,
RB- Lesean McCoy, Bryce Brown, Dion Lewis
FB- Stanley Havili
WR1- Jeremy Maclin, Riley Cooper
WR2- Desean Jackson, QUINTON PATTON
SLOT- Jason Avant, Damairs Johnson
TE- Brent Celek, Clay Habor
LT- Jason Peters, Dennis Kelly
LG- Evan Mathis, Danny Watkins
C- Jason Kelce, Dallas Renyolds
RG- Todd Herremans, Jake Scott
RT- ERIC FISHER, DAVID QUESSENBERRY
RDE- Trent Cole, Vinny Curry
N- KWAME GEATHERS , Antonio Dixon
DT- Fletcher Cox, Cedric Thorton
LDE- Brandon Graham, Phillip Hunt
Sam-GERALD HODGES, Jamar Chaney
Will- Mychal Kendricks Casey Matthews
MILB- Demeco Ryans, Rau, Ryan
RCB-DRC, Curtis Marsh
LCB XAVIER RHODES Brandon Hughes
NICKEL- Brandon Boykin, Trevard Lindley
FS- Nate Allen, D.J. SWEARINGER
SS- ERIC REID, Kurt Colman
LS- Jon Dorenbros
K- Alex Henery
P- RYAN ALLEN

[Footballman175]

tj mcdonald is the most overrated safety i have seen in years

I hate everything about that guy. Makes me sick just thinking about that SC d-bag in an Eagles Uni

[vipakabp916]

Footballman175, on 23 January 2013 - 03:32 PM, said:

tj mcdonald is the most overrated safety i have seen in years

I hate everything about that guy. Makes me sick just thinking about that SC d-bag in an Eagles Uni

WHY IS HE OVERRATED... HE IS THE 4TH BEST SAFETY IN THE DRAFT...SO WHY IS HE OVERRATED... I F HE WAS THE BEST OR 2ND BEST AND SAID HE  IS OVERRATED OK BUT HOW DO YOU FIGURE HE IS OVER RATED.. EXPALIN

[downundermike]

vipakabp916, on 23 January 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

WHY IS HE OVERRATED... HE IS THE 4TH BEST SAFETY IN THE DRAFT...SO WHY IS HE OVERRATED... I F HE WAS THE BEST OR 2ND BEST AND SAID HE  IS OVERRATED OK BUT HOW DO YOU FIGURE HE IS OVER RATED.. EXPALIN

Who said he is the 4th best safety, some ESPN talking head.

I watch enough games to know I would take Elam, Vacarro, Jefferson, Reid, Lester, Rambo & Williams ahead of him.

[GoEagles614]

Why does he have to talk in caps?

I don't care about your mocks because they are the same of 99% of the others that have been posted.

[PhillyBLM]

kitko60, on 23 January 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

I will say it again, I hate the idea of taking a RT in the top 10.  I don't see a tackle in this draft better than Peters hell I don't see a tackle in the NFL better than Peters.  He's had enough time off to come back 100%.  If you want OL in the top 10, for the Eagles, you take Warmack.  Plug him in at RG for at least the next 10 years.  None of these tackles, including Joeckel, are sure fire no misses so you take a player that looks dominant on film, Warmack.  With the RG that I expect Warmack to be in the NFL we will be fine with leaving Herremans at RT.

I agree. Todd is better at G than T but I'd rather keep him out there and plug Warmack at G.

[jose209]

i see the eagles change to a 34 defense which they would look to trade trent cole to the titans a second round this year third and fourth in 2014 draft
we should also trade down with arizona and get a second round pick
trade dion lewis to detriot for a third round pick
i see the eagles getting jarius byrd or dashon goldson in free agent
sign henry melton
release patterson koleman bell vick asomugha and sims
mock draft
round 1) damontre moore OLB/DE
round 2) dj flucker OT (eagles original pick)
round 2) logan ryan CB (trade w arizona)
round 2) matt elam  SS (trade w titans)
round 3) darick rogers WR
round 3) jordan poyer CB (trade w detroit)
round 4) chase thomas OLB
round 5) bacarri rambo FS
round 6) ryan allen P
round 7) tyrann mathieu CB

[downundermike]

jose209, on 23 January 2013 - 06:59 PM, said:

i see the eagles change to a 34 defense which they would look to trade trent cole to the titans a second round this year third and fourth in 2014 draft
we should also trade down with arizona and get a second round pick
trade dion lewis to detriot for a third round pick
i see the eagles getting jarius byrd or dashon goldson in free agent
release patterson koleman bell vick asomugha and sims
resing drc because he is still young
mock draft
round 1) damontre moore OLB/DE
round 2) dj flucker OT (eagles original pick)
round 2) logan ryan CB (trade w arizona)
round 2) matt elam  SS (trade w titans)
round 3) darick rogers WR
round 3) jordan poyer CB (trade w detroit)
round 4) chase thomas OLB
round 5) bacarri rambo FS
round 6) ryan allen P
round 7) tyrann mathieu CB

not a chance in hell elam lasts that long

[Milkman420]

jose209, on 23 January 2013 - 06:59 PM, said:

i see the eagles change to a 34 defense which they would look to trade trent cole to the titans a second round this year third and fourth in 2014 draft
we should also trade down with arizona and get a second round pick
trade dion lewis to detriot for a third round pick
i see the eagles getting jarius byrd or dashon goldson in free agent
sign henry melton
release patterson koleman bell vick asomugha and sims
mock draft
round 1) damontre moore OLB/DE
round 2) dj flucker OT (eagles original pick)
round 2) logan ryan CB (trade w arizona)
round 2) matt elam  SS (trade w titans)
round 3) darick rogers WR
round 3) jordan poyer CB (trade w detroit)
round 4) chase thomas OLB
round 5) bacarri rambo FS
round 6) ryan allen P
round 7) tyrann mathieu CB

No way u get that much for Cole...and y do u think dion Lewis is worth a 3rd?  I just can't come up with an answer to that...as someone already said Elam will be gone mid first early 2nd at latest.  I personally don't see him getting out of the first and if he does slip to the late 20s I would be all about us trading up for him.

[ThaPhenom]

jose209, on 23 January 2013 - 06:59 PM, said:

i see the eagles change to a 34 defense which they would look to trade trent cole to the titans a second round this year third and fourth in 2014 draft
we should also trade down with arizona and get a second round pick
trade dion lewis to detriot for a third round pick
i see the eagles getting jarius byrd or dashon goldson in free agent
sign henry melton
release patterson koleman bell vick asomugha and sims
mock draft
round 1) damontre moore OLB/DE
round 2) dj flucker OT (eagles original pick)
round 2) logan ryan CB (trade w arizona)
round 2) matt elam  SS (trade w titans)
round 3) darick rogers WR
round 3) jordan poyer CB (trade w detroit)
round 4) chase thomas OLB
round 5) bacarri rambo FS
round 6) ryan allen P
round 7) tyrann mathieu CB

please dont ever mock again

[FeelinPhilly89]

switch the postions of E.J Manuel draft pick and the T.J McDonald draft pick and you ww will be just fine

[Asiragusa]

TJ McDonald is absolutely terrible.  Can't cover or tackle well

[downundermike]

Asiragusa, on 24 January 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

TJ McDonald is absolutely terrible.  Can't cover or tackle well

Exactly.  I posted 7 or 8 safeties earlier in this thread I would take over McDonald.

[Asiragusa]

downundermike, on 24 January 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

Exactly.  I posted 7 or 8 safeties earlier in this thread I would take over McDonald.

Yeah and I'd take them and even some others over McDonald.  I realllly don't like him