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[dmor]

Anything is possible.  The guy was a number one pick in the draft so the physical tools are there.  I've seen crazier things, but agree this is a longshot.

[Whiskey]

Jason1978, on 25 January 2013 - 08:19 AM, said:

Looking back at his career, mainly 2008, he had some very good games so what the hell happened. How come he couldn't play like this all the time? Maybe if he started his career elsewhere and not in Oakland could his career been salvaged at the time?  In 2009 he didn't ANY games that came close to the ones below. He was awful.


2008:
111.1 QB rating, 17/26, 180 yards, 2td/0int vs. Denver (loss)

93.3 QB rating, 9/19, 156 yards, 1td/0int, 1 rushing td vs Buffalo (loss)

88.6 QB rating, 17/30, 203 yards, 1td/0int vs. NYJ (loss)

88.4 QB rating, 15/22, 156 yards, 0td/0int vs. Miami (loss)

149.1 QB rating, 10/11, 152 yards, 1td/0int vs. Denver (win)

85.7 QB rating, 17/32, 242 yards, 2td/1int vs. New England (loss)

128.1 QB rating, 14/21, 148 yards, 2td/1int vs. Houston (win)

98.9 QB rating, 14/21, 148 yards, 2td/1int vs. TB (win - helped Eagles into playoffs)

That's the most misunderstood thing about JaMarcus Russell. He wasn't a bust because he sucked, he was a bust because he was a fat, lazy drug addict. Just looking at his throwing ability, he may have been the best QB prospect since, Jeff George, who was also a failure because of attitude/approach/work ethic.

When you really think about it, considering the poor talent surrounding JaMarcus Russell and his own inability to not sabotage his career, he actualy performed quite well. Sadly, and sickeningly, as soon as he was drafted he quit working and got by on pure natural ability on one of the worst teams in the last 20 years.

If JaMarcus was actually serious about a comeback, and worked his arse off, he could be a great QB in the right situation. But as his current weight indicates, he hasn't learned a damned thing from his experiences and thinks some desperate team is going to give him a contract to bail him out of debt.

It's really hard, if not downright impossible, to root for a guy like him because he had all the ability in the world & the opportunity but threw it all away.

[CMPunk]

DawkinsOwnage03, on 24 January 2013 - 07:14 PM, said:

He beat us /facepalm

We really are fing cursed.

The Raiders were motivated for that game after some of the Giants players (Giants played them the week before and beat them 44-10) trash talked the Raiders in the media after their game.

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[Rodney_Zero]

NorCalEagle, on 24 January 2013 - 08:28 PM, said:

Imagine that, a Eagle LB out of position and poor tackling

[vaeagle1]

with all the young qb's doing good this year no one will give him a shot, maybe in arena or canada

[AllPhillyFan]

vaeagle1, on 28 January 2013 - 06:06 PM, said:

with all the young qb's doing good this year no one will give him a shot, maybe in arena or canada

The draft is weak on QBs, there's going to be more teams needing a QB than free agents out there, if he gets down to 270 lbs I wouldn't be surprised to see a team like the Bills, Cardinals, Kansas City, etc give him a tryout.

[McNabb#5]

Funny how football is important again to him. His house was just foreclosed here in Mobile in December.

[KzEaglefan86]

In an effort to get his weight under control for a potential return to the NFL, Russell began eating healthier and cut snack foods out of his diet.  Hostess promptly declared bankruptcy.

[Jason1978]

Rex Ryan wants Russell. I think Ryan is trying to get fired...is seeing how far he can go, how many bad decisions he can make.

http://t.foxsports.m...g-russell-as-qb

[Jason1978]

KzEaglefan86, on 25 January 2013 - 08:51 AM, said:

So in his best season he only cracked 200 twice with a high of 242? Super-bust.

The Raiders were also AWFUL in 2008. The fact that he had that many good games is pretty remarkable and shows there is some talent there. Lane Kiffin was fired during the season and replaced with Tom Cable. Darren McFadden was a BACKUP his first two years. Look at depth chart. Russell had nobody around him in Oakland:

2007 (55.9 QB rating, 54.5 comp%, 2td/4int in 4 games)
RB: Justin Fargas, Lamont Jordan, Dominic Rhodes
WR: Ronald Curry, Jerry Porter, John Madsen, Mike Williams, Tim Dwight, Johnnie Lee Higgins
TE: Zach Miller

2008 (77.1 QB rating, 53.8 comp%, 13td/8int, 127 rush/1td in 15 games)
RB: Justin Fargas, Darren McFadden, Michael Bush
WR: Johnnie Lee Higgins, Ronald Curry, Chaz Schilens, Javon Walker, Ashley Lelie
TE: Zach Miller

2009 (50.0 QB rating, 48.8 comp%, 3td/11int in 12 games)
RB: Michael Bush, Justin Fargas, Darren McFadden
WR: Louis Murphy, Chaz Schilens, Johnnie Lee Higgins, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Todd Watkins
TE: Zach Miller

[Jason1978]

Rodney_Zero, on 28 January 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

Imagine that, a Eagle LB out of position and poor tackling

And he totaled 44 rushing yards that season too in 12 games.

[philly_phan74]

Jason1978, on 29 January 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:

Rex Ryan wants Russell. I think Ryan is trying to get fired...is seeing how far he can go, how many bad decisions he can make.

http://t.foxsports.m...g-russell-as-qb

If Jamarcus wants to loose weight, hanging out with Rex Ryan is not the answer. That was always looking for a snack on Hard Knocks.

[Jason1978]

According to NFL Network, the Jets took a long look at Russell and are now no longer interested.

philly_phan74, on 30 January 2013 - 09:08 AM, said:

If Jamarcus wants to loose weight, hanging out with Rex Ryan is not the answer. That was always looking for a snack on Hard Knocks.

Rex lost a lot of weight though.