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[nmbr1ballr]

To start, this is not something I see happening.  This is just how I feel would address our needs while making trades that I don't feel are too far fetched.  No I don't see us having 3 first round picks this year.  Having said that, I think personally this mock would address needs with value.

Trade 1st (4th) for Chargers 1st (11th) and 2nd (45th)
Philip Rivers was once a top quality QB who has since regressed and does not have a great o-line.  Chargers move up to 4th to take Joeckel.  For the trades, I try and follow the value chart but do not see it being 100% accurate with the CBA limiting rookie contracts and higher picks having slightly less value.  4th overall is worth 1800.  11th + 45th is worth 1700 according to the chart, I still see this as a fair trade even though it says we are losing slightly.

Trade Maclin, our 4th and a conditional 2014 to the Rams for their 22nd overall pick.
The Rams took a WR in the top of the 2nd round last year to help Bradford who has a ton of talent.  Amendola is a stud in the slot.  I think with one of their two 1st's they would try and select another WR.  While I am not on the bandwagon of trading Maclin and would prefer him to stay, we have too many needs on defense and am willing to part with him to upgrade other areas of necessity.  I still feel we would have a good offense without him.

Trade our 2nd (35th overall and 5th) to Atlanta for 1st (30th overall)
For this third trade, I don't really have a particular reason why ATL would do this, but still attempting to make a trade to jump ahead of Baltimore and New England because I feel these are two teams who could possibly try and grab the player in my mock.  35th + 5th round = roughly 589 points.  30th is worth 620.  Again I still feel this is fair due do the new CBA.  ATL is only moving back 5 spots and picking up another 5th.  Throw in a late 7th if necessary to get the deal done.


1  (11th overall) Eric Fisher OT Central Michigan.  Top 2 LT in the draft.  Starts off at RT if Peters comes back healthy, moving Herremans back to guard.
1  (22nd overall) Jonathan Jenkins NT Georiga.  All the talk about moving to a 3-4, we must have to have a good NT for the transition.  Jenkins gives us that having played the position at Georgia
1  (30th overall) Matt Elam S Florida.  Kurt Coleman must be upgraded.  Matt Elam is the best SS in the draft.  I am willing to give Nate Allen another year under new coaching before finding his upgrade next.
2  (45th overall) Best available of: Xavier Rhodes, Jordan Poyer, Desmond Trufant, and Logan Ryan.  Depending on who falls, I next take a CB in the mid 2nd that we got from the Chargers trade.  Nnamdi is out.  I would let DRC get a 3 year extension allowing DRC, Marsh, Hughes, and the rookie fighting it out in training camp.
3  (67th overall) Chase Thomas OLB Stanford--  a 3-4 OLB to help the transition.  Had  71 tackles, 14.5 tackles for a loss, one interception and 7.5 sacks this year.
6  BPA depth
7  BPA depth
7  BPA depth

Opinions?  Again, I don't think I made any off the wall trades that have no shot, just don't ever seeing us or any team with 3 first round picks in one year.  So I don't see this playing out, but just think it would be a great draft and put us right back into contending for the East next year.

[BDAWK_4EVER]

I'll tell you right now Elam isn't going to last to 30. Especially if he has a good combine. Other than that it looks good

[kitko60]

I'd take Elam where you took Jenkins.  Who will be the other starting WR in this scenario?

[RUEagle]

God if I see one more mock w/ us drafting Elam I'm going to lose it.  Jesus every frigin year this happens...someone praises a player in a fricken thread and every Mocker has him going to us...of course later than he will actually be drafted.

Sorry I dont mean to blow up, but it's getting old.  I like Fisher a lot but I don't believe Rhodes will be available that late.  I like the positions, though, and the scheme you're aiming at.

[nmbr1ballr]

kitko60, on 24 January 2013 - 12:58 PM, said:

I'd take Elam where you took Jenkins.  Who will be the other starting WR in this scenario?

I would probably scan free agency but would feel comfortable with having Cooper on the outside with Jackson and having either Damaris Johnson or keeping Avant in the slot.  I would give Cooper the year to show what he has.  He has had a few highlight catches.  One of the bigger reasons I am ok with downgrading the receiver corps is the fact that Chip Kelley will run the ball a lot more than Reid making our offense more balanced and more efficient.

If by 2014 Cooper shows that he is a backup, I would then draft a WR higher in the next draft or check out if any stud WRs will be free agents then.

[Spaggiari]

Just can`t see Fisher getting past the Cardinals at #7. Wish he would but right now I think he is a solid top 10 pick for sure.
Offcourse the same was said last year about Fletcher Cox and we got him at #12 so what do I know...

Not a fan of Jonathan Jenkins, and I would prefer to adress the NT position later in the draft and on the free agency market.

Elam would be a great pick even though he is being a little bit overrated lately, Desmond Trufant is another solid 1st round pick,  he wont get to the 2nd round and I really doubt Rhodes and Jordan Poyer will last till the 45th pick. Logan Ryan like you said or Jamar Taylor from Boise State are more realistic options.

Chase Thomas is a guy that I just can`t see being a difference maker in the NFL, even though I am not a fan of this guys, if we get an 3-4 rush LB in the 3rd round range I would rather get Brandon Jenkins or Corey Lemonier.

[RUEagle]

Spaggiari, on 24 January 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

Just can`t see Fisher getting past the Cardinals at #7. Wish he would but right now I think he is a solid top 10 pick for sure.
Offcourse the same was said last year about Fletcher Cox and we got him at #12 so what do I know...

Not a fan of Jonathan Jenkins, and I would prefer to adress the NT position later in the draft and on the free agency market.

Elam would be a great pick even though he is being a little bit overrated lately, Desmond Trufant is another solid 1st round pick,  he wont get to the 2nd round and I really doubt Rhodes and Jordan Poyer will last till the 45th pick. Logan Ryan like you said or Jamar Taylor from Boise State are more realistic options.

Chase Thomas is a guy that I just can`t see being a difference maker in the NFL, even though I am not a fan of this guys, if we get an OLB in the 3rd round range I would rather get Brandon Jenkins or Corey Lemonier.

That's an understatement.  Mockers think he's going to be the greatest player since..well...ever apparently.

[nmbr1ballr]

RUEagle, on 24 January 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

God if I see one more mock w/ us drafting Elam I'm going to lose it.  Jesus every frigin year this happens...someone praises a player in a fricken thread and every Mocker has him going to us...of course later than he will actually be drafted.

Sorry I dont mean to blow up, but it's getting old.  I like Fisher a lot but I don't believe Rhodes will be available that late.  I like the positions, though, and the scheme you're aiming at.

I'm pretty sure 3/4 of last years Mocks had us getting Fletcher Cox and most Brandon Boykin and we did end up with them.  Where do you see Elam going?  From the few mock drafts I have seen (walterfootball and cbs sports) all three mocks have him going to either the Ravens and Patriots.  CBS sports has a 2nd round round prediction on him where walter has a 1-2 which I view as a late first.

Elam is very good, but I don't think he is a game changing safety in that he is going to be a top 15 pick.

[nmbr1ballr]

Spaggiari, on 24 January 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

Just can`t see Fisher getting past the Cardinals at #7. Wish he would but right now I think he is a solid top 10 pick for sure.
Offcourse the same was said last year about Fletcher Cox and we got him at #12 so what do I know...

Not a fan of Jonathan Jenkins, and I would prefer to adress the NT position later in the draft and on the free agency market.

Elam would be a great pick even though he is being a little bit overrated lately, Desmond Trufant is another solid 1st round pick,  he wont get to the 2nd round and I really doubt Rhodes and Jordan Poyer will last till the 45th pick. Logan Ryan like you said or Jamar Taylor from Boise State are more realistic options.

Chase Thomas is a guy that I just can`t see being a difference maker in the NFL, even though I am not a fan of this guys, if we get an 3-4 rush LB in the 3rd round range I would rather get Brandon Jenkins or Corey Lemonier.

I was looking at the available free agents and unless I am missing someone, from what I saw all the FA are just regular DT, none that would fit well as a 3-4 NT.
No complaints on your Chase Thomas opinion, I honestly don't follow college and was just looking for a name that appeared to be a 3-4 OLB that is "predicted" to fall to the late 2nd early 3rd round.

[Spaggiari]

nmbr1ballr, on 24 January 2013 - 01:13 PM, said:

I was looking at the available free agents and unless I am missing someone, from what I saw all the FA are just regular DT, none that would fit well as a 3-4 NT.
No complaints on your Chase Thomas opinion, I honestly don't follow college and was just looking for a name that appeared to be a 3-4 OLB that is "predicted" to fall to the late 2nd early 3rd round.

Aubrayo Franklin or Isaac Sopoaga comes to my mind as good options for NT. Also Steve McLendon from the Steelers, very underrated but is a RFA.

[nmbr1ballr]

Spaggiari, on 24 January 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

Aubrayo Franklin or Isaac Sopoaga comes to my mind as good options for NT. Also Steve McLendon from the Steelers, very underrated but is a RFA.

Gotcha thanks.  I would be ok with one of the first 2 as a stop gap.  I did see Steve, like you said will be a RFA and not sure what we would need to give Pitt to get him.

[BDAWK_4EVER]

RUEagle, on 24 January 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

God if I see one more mock w/ us drafting Elam I'm going to lose it.  Jesus every frigin year this happens...someone praises a player in a fricken thread and every Mocker has him going to us...of course later than he will actually be drafted.

Sorry I dont mean to blow up, but it's getting old.  I like Fisher a lot but I don't believe Rhodes will be available that late.  I like the positions, though, and the scheme you're aiming at.

He's the best safety in the draft, and safety is a dire position of need. WTF do you expect? He's not being overrated at all, he's going in the 15-20 range especially if he has a good combine.

[Footballman175]

RUEagle, on 24 January 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

God if I see one more mock w/ us drafting Elam I'm going to lose it.  Jesus every frigin year this happens...someone praises a player in a fricken thread and every Mocker has him going to us...of course later than he will actually be drafted.

Sorry I dont mean to blow up, but it's getting old.  I like Fisher a lot but I don't believe Rhodes will be available that late.  I like the positions, though, and the scheme you're aiming at.

not being overrated at all. Actually a lot of ESPN guys like Kiper/McShay, etc don't even like Elam that much. They love the soft safety out of Texas.

[charlesdimry]

I would have no problem if it worked out like this but so you know, the new CBA makes high picks even more valuable not less. Since the contracts are now limited and not the 6 yr, 60 mil craziness that went with the top picks before, they are a lot more valuable.

[eagledrew13]

BDAWK_4EVER, on 24 January 2013 - 02:46 PM, said:

He's the best safety in the draft, and safety is a dire position of need. WTF do you expect? He's not being overrated at all, he's going in the 15-20 range especially if he has a good combine.

He needs to have a fantastic combine to be taken around 15. Right now he's nothing more than a borderline 1st rounder and he is not for sure the best safety in this draft. There are 3 guys that are all right in that area at the position so it will come down to the combine and individual team opinion.

[Hawley081887]

Man I would really like those 3 first round picks, but I just dont see that happening.