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#1 Asiragusa

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:20 PM

Free Agent Signings:

William Moore (Atlanta) S-- Underrated safety who can play well, not as expensive as some others

Not Returning:

Michael Vick QB
Demetress Bell OT
DRC CB
Dunlap OT
Tapp DE
Asomough CB

Resignings:

Anderson S--Good ST player and not a bad safety
Dorenbos LS--Need a long snapper

Draft:

1: Damontre Moore OLB-- Need to start preparing for 34 defense and he can rush passer as outside LB

   **Trade: Cole DE, our new 2nd, 4th, and our 5th rounders to Jaguars for their 2nd, 4th, and their 5th rounds, secures Poyer in 2nd, Manuel in 4th, and allows us to move up for Geathers in 5th

2 (Jaguars): Desmond Trufant CB-- Very good corner to start, hopefully can get him here with Cole trade

  **Trade: Maclin WR, 7th round pick, and 5th next year to Dolphins for 2nd round pick this year

2 (Dolphins): Logan Ryan CB-- Good, consistent corner to start opposite corner, risky drafting two in 2nd round
3: Kyle Long OT-- Oregon prospect has been good at senior bowl and starts at RT moving Todd to guard
4 (Jaguars): EJ Manuel QB-- Chip gets the guy he needs here to run his offense, allows him to bag Vick
5 (Jaguars): Kwame Geathers NT-- Key to 34 is big inside fast outside, and Geathers is huge and can play NT
6: Lonnie Pryor FB--Good FB opens holes for McCoy and lets Chip be more creative
7: Ray Ray Armstrong S-- The equivalent of Bryce Brown last year, and in a position of need, who knows
7: (traded to dolphins)

Lineup:

QB: Manuel or Foles
RB: McCoy
FB: Pryor
WR1: Jackson
WR2: Cooper
Slot WR: Avant
TE: Celek
LT: Peters
LG: Mathis
C: Kelce
RG: Herremanns
RT: Long

DE: Jenkins
NT: Geathers
DE: Cox
ROLB: Moore
MLB1: Ryans
MLB2: Kendricks
LOLB: Graham
RCB: Ryan
Slot CB: Boykin
FS: Moore
SS: Anderson
LCB: Trufant

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:25 PM

Comment or suggest changes and ideas to my offseason.  I tried to make it a little different than the usual.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:37 PM

Never seen Moore play, don't even know what team he's on so I can't critique that area. Safety is my biggest concern though.

I doubt Levitre gets to free agency but would be a nice pickup. Revis trade is a long shot but I see your reasoning behind it.

I don't like the idea of drafting a receiver in the second round, even with losing Maclin. I feel Cooper could be a good 2nd receiver. He's got good size, runs pretty good routes (IMO better than Jackson and definitely better than Maclin), and has decent hands. And he doesn't get hurt after every catch. The only knock is he doesn't run a 4.3.

Also, a big hell no to EJ Manuel. He is the only guy in this draft I can absolutely say I do not want. He's not really mobile, and his accuracy is all over the place. He's McNabb in Washington and Minnesota.

I like Ray Ray Armstrong. I also compared him to our Bryce Brown pick in my mock.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:42 PM

Who is our number 2 wr?  Is there a big FA pick you did not mention?

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:36 PM

View Postdawk1977, on 24 January 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

Who is our number 2 wr?  Is there a big FA pick you did not mention?
Riley Cooper

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:49 PM

I like it, simple, but dont think Poyer lasts till the 3rd.

Also need to address replacing Maclin ( Bowe ) and TE ( Cook )

Ryans was also traded by the Texans as he did not fair well in the 3-4.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:56 PM

View Postdownundermike, on 24 January 2013 - 04:49 PM, said:

I like it, simple, but dont think Poyer lasts till the 3rd.

Also need to address replacing Maclin ( Bowe ) and TE ( Cook )

Ryans was also traded by the Texans as he did not fair well in the 3-4.
I know.  We would have to look at LB but maybe with a little different scheming or something Ryans would play better.  Also I think Cooper deserves a chance, especially with the assumed run first offense he's a good blocker.  He did well when DeSean went out

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:08 PM

love this draft... getting revis and poyer would be a dream come true lol

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:33 PM

Thanks

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:21 PM

View PostAsiragusa, on 24 January 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

Thanks

did you edit it?

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:37 PM

Back end of the draft is good but i am not that big of a fan of the first 2 picks....especially Moore.

Once Moore performs in the combine i think his stock will to somewhere around 10. People will be surprised how slow (and not freakishly athletic like Werner/Mingo, etc are. There is not much upside there.

Moore is one of the few picks i would be mad with if the Eagles took at 4. Other than that, i like your draft man

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 09:28 PM

View PostThaPhenom, on 25 January 2013 - 05:21 PM, said:



did you edit it?
Yeah I changed my mind about a couple picks and I decided Revis would not be beneficial to the team moving forward

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 09:32 PM

Jackson & Cooper as the starting Receivers? Please no.

Maclin & Jackson are fine

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 09:34 PM

View PostFootballman175, on 25 January 2013 - 09:32 PM, said:

Jackson & Cooper as the starting Receivers? Please no.

Maclin & Jackson are fine
I disagree.  I think Cooper is a little overlooked and has good size and route running.  I don't hate Maclin but for my draft I had to trade him in order to get that 2nd round pick.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:27 PM

View PostAsiragusa, on 25 January 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

I disagree.  I think Cooper is a little overlooked and has good size and route running.  I don't hate Maclin but for my draft I had to trade him in order to get that 2nd round pick.

I disagree completely. Then drafting Maclin is a complete waste of a 1st round pick.
  • You're going to risk getting another Jaiquawn Jarrett, Nate Allen, Trevor Laws, Winston Justice, Reggie Brown, Mike McCoy, LJ Smith, Quinton Carver  ...(You see what i did there?) A 2nd round pick is nothing special. Draft picks are not worth it for a receiver with potential like Maclin
  • Maclin is 24 Years Old
  • Maclin has averaged 65 Receptions, 865 Yards, and 7 TD's since coming into the NFL. I don't know about you, but i'm happy with that kind of production.
  • People would be BEGGING for a receiver like Maclin when we had Thrash, Pinkston, FredEx back in the Early 2000's


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:29 PM

I see your point.  I'm a defensive minded person so I see getting the corner as the better option but you do bring excellent points.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:31 PM

View PostAsiragusa, on 25 January 2013 - 10:29 PM, said:

I see your point.  I'm a defensive minded person so I see getting the corner as the better option but you do bring excellent points.

Somebody could make an argument against mine easily. The #1 argument with Maclin is that he was drafted to be a #1 receiver and he probably will never will be (i hope he does)

it's just with how many 2nd round picks i have seen drafted by the Eagles in the past 10-12 years fail and be cut in less than 5 years...it's not worth trading Maclin in my opinion.

The early 2000's was so depressing with Thrash and all those bums ( -_-)......i am glad we have Jackson and Maclin

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:50 PM

View PostFootballman175, on 25 January 2013 - 10:31 PM, said:



Somebody could make an argument against mine easily. The #1 argument with Maclin is that he was drafted to be a #1 receiver and he probably will never will be (i hope he does)

it's just with how many 2nd round picks i have seen drafted by the Eagles in the past 10-12 years fail and be cut in less than 5 years...it's not worth trading Maclin in my opinion.

The early 2000's was so depressing with Thrash and all those bums ( -_-)......i am glad we have Jackson and Maclin
We can agree on this




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