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Steve Spagnuolo fired by Saints; they want to switch to 3-4


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#1 pgcd3

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:39 PM

Didn't have a good year but interested?

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:41 PM

Didn't have a good year but interested?

No thanks, the 3-4 is on its way !!!!

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:42 PM

Wow

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:46 PM

:mellow2:

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:46 PM

I did not see this coming, ah man!

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:46 PM

No thanks, the 3-4 is on its way !!!!


Yes Saints claim they are going 3-4 so if we are too then he doesn't make sense. If 4-3 then I'd strongly consider

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:46 PM

WOW. Yes. I thought a quote from him this year was interesting though, basically said "i have no answers..." He is rumored to have a good relationship with Lurie, they did want Reid to hire him as the DC last year, and Chip did say he wanted a D that would bring some heat....hmmm..

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:46 PM

I'l take him over Fewell.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:48 PM

He has apparently developed a huge ego everybody on the team hated him in NO

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:49 PM

Didn't have a good year but interested?

If Andy was still here, I think he'd be hired. I have no idea what Kelly will do.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:50 PM

He absolutely lost that locker room.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:52 PM

I don't see the Eagles going after him. They're talking of moving to a 3-4 as well so it wouldn't make much sense from that standpoint. I heard some Saints players talk about how they hated the way he talked to them and it almost seemed like he was always talking down to them. If that's true or not we have no way of knowing but if it is that's not good.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:54 PM

Andy will add him to his staff somehow, if he isn't signed by someone else.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:55 PM

Didn't have a good year but interested?

in a heart beat, best thing that could happen to the Eagles

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:55 PM

I don't see the Eagles going after him. They're talking of moving to a 3-4 as well so it wouldn't make much sense from that standpoint. I heard some Saints players talk about how they hated the way he talked to them and it almost seemed like he was always talking down to them. If that's true or not we have no way of knowing but if it is that's not good.


Right Payton is claiming it's because of a shift to the 3-4. Interesting that Payton sees the 3-4 as the way to go in today's nfl as well. If we did stick to the 4-3 then I'd consider Spags. Personally I'd rather have Spags run a 4-3 than Donatell though I'm sure others would argue otherwise.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:58 PM

Right Payton is claiming it's because of a shift to the 3-4. Interesting that Payton sees the 3-4 as the way to go in today's nfl as well. If we did stick to the 4-3 then I'd consider Spags. Personally I'd rather have Spags run a 4-3 than Donatell though I'm sure others would argue otherwise.


I'm kinda conflicted about Spags right now. We saw an impressive run and some close to dominant defensive performances from his unit back in 2007, got the Rams job in 2009 and that team had horrible defenses (had a lot to do with some personnel outside of Long & Laurinaitis). I'm honestly not sure how I feel. Spags does bring aggressive defense which is something Kelly wants. But I'm wondering if last year was a fluke or if the Saints just didn't buy into him as a coordinator. I don't know. I'd probably feel better about Spags over Donatell as well but at this stage, I don't know how to feel about Spags coming here. After what we've seen the Eagles do over the last 2 weeks, you really can't rule anything out.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:59 PM

Did no one hear the part about where Kelly said he'll have to examine the talent he has before selecting a scheme or a DC? Did anyone not know he had like zero impact on the defense at Oregon? From what crevice are we pulling this 'we're moving to a 3-4' tatersumption from?I'm not opposed to a 3-4 as long as we don't have to cannibalize too much of our current talent.

Spags is a JJ disciple. The Eagles probably have some personnel scheme already in place to fit what Spags brings, as both Spags D and the current Eagles D are still molded more or less to JJ's specs. There is more than one way to do it successfully though. What's most important is that we have the talent and the execution.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:59 PM

People not even a year ago on this board went nuts for Spags...

Then again people here went nots for Nick Foles as well, and we all know he stunk it up.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:01 PM

I'm kinda conflicted about Spags right now. We saw an impressive run and some close to dominant defensive performances from his unit back in 2007, got the Rams job in 2009 and that team had horrible defenses (had a lot to do with some personnel outside of Long & Laurinaitis). I'm honestly not sure how I feel. Spags does bring aggressive defense which is something Kelly wants. But I'm wondering if last year was a fluke or if the Saints just didn't buy into him as a coordinator. I don't know. I'd probably feel better about Spags over Donatell as well but at this stage, I don't know how to feel about Spags coming here. After what we've seen the Eagles do over the last 2 weeks, you really can't rule anything out.


I agree with that. I'm not sold on Spags given recent performances. Donatell is more of a sure thing in the middle I guess but that's exactly my problem with him. He's mediocre. I'd hope for a 3-4 guy who's well thought of if he's out there

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:04 PM

. I'd hope for a 3-4 guy who's well thought of if he's out there

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:04 PM

Dont want him, I too am for a 3-4

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:05 PM

Did no one hear the part about where Kelly said he'll have to examine the talent he has before selecting a scheme or a DC? Did anyone not know he had like zero impact on the defense at Oregon? From what crevice are we pulling this 'we're moving to a 3-4' tatersumption from?


Generally you wouldn't hear about the possibility of 2 linebackers coaches if they're sticking with a 4-3. I doubt 1 would just be given the Asst. LB Coach title. If Chip decides Spags is the guy to run his defense, fine that's his call.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:09 PM

They can't hire Spags for the same reason they fired Reid. Their performance last year was unacceptable. If it fails it looks as bad as everyone thought it would at the time. They can't pull another "Juan"..

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:10 PM

Did the saints end up with the worst defense in NFL history? I know they were trending that way.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:11 PM

Yeah I guess we could use more big egos in the locker room. Imo dude needs a reality check not another coordinator job

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:11 PM

Lol. It's funny to think how EVERYONE on the board called for Spags and Castillo ended up outperforming him...

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:11 PM

Generally you wouldn't hear about the possibility of 2 linebackers coaches if they're sticking with a 4-3. I doubt 1 would just be given the Asst. LB Coach title. If Chip decides Spags is the guy to run his defense, fine that's his call.


I agree. I think they are going 3-4 or at least a hybrid

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:11 PM

Dont want him, I too am for a 3-4



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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:15 PM

I agree. I think they are going 3-4 or at least a hybrid


I'd been calling for a hybrid for a couple years now. I want a defense that can go from 3-4 to 4-3 or vice versa like it's nothing. I want a defense similar to what Baltimore had been running for years. A defense that believes in the next man up philosophy (actually I want that for the whole team). If somebody goes down, the next man on the depth chart had better be able to do the job as well as the starter if not better or else it's time to find the next guy. Sure losing guys like Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs, and others to injury hurts, but the next guy has to step in and do the job until the starter gets back.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:17 PM

I'd been calling for a hybrid for a couple years now.

Still need 3-4 personel to run that, look at Balts DL for example, and some of their LB's