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[pgcd3]

Per Mosher article

http://www.csnphilly...98634116151-711

[iluvdaeagles]

camp body

[SinCityEaglesFan]

yawn... i'm taking this one with a grain of salt.

good size at 6-4, but a little light at 206. Id feel better if he gained about ten pounds. He would obviously fit into kelly's offense and since he's on the practice squad - he probably has fresh legs.

overall, im not too excited about this one, but a little competition never hurt anyone.

[Eagles_Section115_Row29]

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The defensive coordinator search has becomeChip Kelly’s most visible first move since he became Eagles head coach Jan. 9
Finding an expert defensive mind is an important decision for the first-time NFL coach, but the defining moment for Kelly and his regime will come when he makes his first quarterback call.

So far, Kelly has yet to drop clues about the direction he’s headed in at the game’s most important position but the captain of Kelly’s spread offense attack probably won’t be an aging Michael Vick or vaguely mobile Nick Foles.
If Kelly plans to build an offense that not only fits his vision but also can compete from the get-go, he needs a quarterback that understands his scheme and has the skill set to flourish in it.

Nobody on the current roster fits that description, but all signs point to Kelly having his man by next week. There are strong indications that Kelly won’t waste too much time after the Super Bowl before reaching out to Ravens practice squad quarterback Dennis Dixon and bringing him to Philadelphia.

Dixon, who engineered Kelly’s offense to near perfection at Oregon and had his Heisman candidacy in 2007 derailed by a knee injury, is the only NFL quarterback that knows the coach’s system inside-out and wouldn’t be starting from Square 1.
It’s an obvious and expected pairing. Dixon is known to be thrilled that Kelly has made the leap from college to the pros and is eager for a reunion with his former college offensive coordinator.

Kelly probably would have reached out to Dixon already but the Ravens’ climb to the Super Bowl has served as a temporary roadblock. Per NFL rule, a practice squad player in the postseason can’t sign with a non-playoff team until his team is eliminated.
Besides, Dixon is busy right now chasing something more lucrative than his next contract. As the Ravens try to figure out how to stop San Francisco’s white-hot offense before Sunday’s showdown, Dixon is playing the role in practice of 49ers dual-threat quarterback Colin Kaepernick on the scout team.

It would be stunning if Kelly hadn’t reached out and made Dixon his first official signing within a few days after the Super Bowl.
"I'm in awe right now," Dixon had said, per The Baltimore Sun, after Kelly’s hiring became official. "I'm at a loss for words. I'm sure it was a business decision, a family decision, but it's really hard to leave the Ducks. I think he is ready for that next step.”
Dixon, a fifth-round pick of the Steelers in 2007, played in just four games for Pittsburgh and only started three in four seasons there. He completed just 59.3 percent of his passes, threw one touchdown and one interception while scrambling for 56 yards on 10 carries and rushing for a touchdown.

But he wasn’t exactly groomed for success. An AFC personnel man who scouted Kelly going back to Oregon and is very familiar with the Steelers said Pittsburgh coaches went the predictable route in Dixon’s starts replacing an injured Ben Roethlisberger, running frequently on first and second downs to set up obvious third-down passing scenarios. He believes Dixon has tremendous NFL potential that can be maximized in Kelly’s offense.
Without much of an NFL resume after four years, the best Dixon could do was land on the practice squad of Pittsburgh’s division rivals. Insert him into Kelly’s offense, though, and maybe he shows glimpses of the superstar he was in college, when he had the keys to Kelly’s hurry-up, high-octane offense.

Before tearing up his knee as a senior, Dixon had led the Ducks to an 8-1 record and No. 2 rank in the BCS standings. He had completed almost 68 percent of his passes, rushed for 583 yards and totaled 2,719 yards in 10 games and still won the Pac-10 Conference’s Offensive Player of the Year unanimously despite having his season truncated by injury.
At the very least, Dixon gives Kelly another option as the coach continues to evaluate the roster and plot the course of his NFL offense. Dixon could compete for the starting job right away, giving him an early leg up on the competition.
The Eagles have a 72-hour window after the Super Bowl to release Vick at no cost (except a cap hit of $4.2 million). If they release him after that, they could owe him up to $3 million; the amount is contingent upon if he signs with another team and for how much. It might be worth the risk of keeping Vick around to see if they can’t trade him for draft compensation.
Foles, who showed promise as a rookie, is under contract and probably sticking around unless he becomes a wanted commodity on the trade market. He lacks some of the traits that were staples of recent Oregon quarterbacks but at the Senior Bowl last week in Mobile, Ala., Kelly admitted that he hadn’t yet formulated an offensive blueprint for the NFL and wouldn’t be averse to keeping quarterbacks of different styles and abilities.

“You need to have people that have some versatility because your starting quarterback may be able to run your scheme and your backup quarterback may not,” he said. “You don’t just throw your hands up in the first quarter when [the starter] is out and say, ‘We’re in trouble now.’ You’ve got to be able to adapt. That’s what I think the fun part of coaching is -- being able to identify what your personnel can do and play to their strengths.”

Foles has already shown that he can compete at the NFL level, even more than Dixon has proven. But he could become trade bait down the road if Dixon emerges as Kelly’s guy.
That’s gazing deep into the future. For now, Kelly has evaluations to make and Dixon has a ring to chase. After Sunday, they’ll have plenty of time to get reacquainted.

[pgcd3]

It goes back to the Vick concept of a few years back. If you have a QB that can run that might get into a few plays a game then the opposing team needs to spend time preparing for it. Not saying Dixon is that guy of course

[SBorBust]

Very low risk, potentially decent reward.  It doesn't hurt anyone to let this guy come in and compete for a roster spot.

[time2rock]

Dixon excites me just a little more than Vick.  

Seriously though, I was kinda hoping to move toward an offensive scheme in which a true pocket-passer was utilized, not another athletic QB that is more a running-threat than a good passer.  But I kinda figured those hopes went out the window when they announced Kelly was hired.

[Regal]

iluvdaeagles, on 29 January 2013 - 09:44 AM, said:

camp body

Still better than Vick.

[Clamdigger]

nm

[pgcd3]

time2rock, on 29 January 2013 - 09:51 AM, said:

Dixon excited me just a little more than Vick.  

Seriously though, I was kinda hoping to move toward an offensive scheme in which a true pocket-passer was utilized, not another athletic QB that is more a running-threat than a good passer.  But I kinda figured those hopes went out the window when they announced Kelly was hired.

I agree but Kelly said he would suit the offense to the QB and that included possibly having a different look for the starter and backup given the skill sets.If I'm Kelly I'm probably at least curious to see how Dixon looks with this team. Given his non existent cost it's a cheap look. And as I said earlier maybe it's a couple of plays a game thing that keeps the defense on its heals. (not sure I like that but just tossing it out there)

[we_gotta_believe]

time2rock, on 29 January 2013 - 09:51 AM, said:

Dixon excited me just a little more than Vick.  

Seriously though, I was kinda hoping to move toward an offensive scheme in which a true pocket-passer was utilized, not another athletic QB that is more a running-threat than a good passer.  But I kinda figured those hopes went out the window when they announced Kelly was hired.

Bingo

[Trips]

LMAO.

Bad news for the Nick Foles fans...

If Kelly is bringing a guy like Dennis Dixon in, it shows that he may be looking to build the offense around a dual threat QB.

Obviously, that's not for certain. But I would say it's giving a hint.

I just hope it's not Vick....

[iluvdaeagles]

Regal, on 29 January 2013 - 09:52 AM, said:

Still better than Vick.

no he isn't...the guy couldnt even make an NFL practice squad last year

[Eagles_Section115_Row29]

Trips, on 29 January 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

LMAO.

Bad news for the Nick Foles fans...

If Kelly is bringing a guy like Dennis Dixon in, it shows that he may be looking to build the offense around a dual threat QB.

Obviously, that's not for certain. But I would say it's giving a hint.

I just hope it's not Vick....

I'd say its more bad news for the "Vick fans" as Dixon is  cheaper, younger, similar skill set, and knows the Oregon offense.  Foles contract is still very cheap for the next few years so there is no real downside to keeping him around and developing him at worst as a high reward backup.

Just speculation but I could imagine them having 2 different types of offense.  A dixon set running his Oregon system and Foles set running a hybrid of Kelly's and pat shurmur's offense.

[Krukslonelyball]

iluvdaeagles, on 29 January 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

no he isn't...the guy couldnt even make an NFL practice squad last year

Anyone is better than Vick.

Anyone.

[Solomon]

iluvdaeagles, on 29 January 2013 - 09:44 AM, said:

camp body

Vick? I don't think he'll be on the roster to be a camp body, especially if we sign Dixon.

[MCoster]

Good stuff. At worst we're getting a qb to replace Vick on the roster who may get cut in training camp.

At best, he could lead to a foles trade to kc for their third or something and can get a guy like ej Manuel there

[Shocker54]

So he wants to bring a guy in who's familiar with the system and evaluate him close up?


I don't see a problem here

[knapp_nick]

He is 28.. whats the point of this?

Id rather get alex smith (also 28) bc at least he has shown he can play at a high level..

More than anything I think foles deserves a shot but at this moment it SEEMS foles is on the outside looking in on this QB situation which I think is a shame..

[Solomon]

iluvdaeagles, on 29 January 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

no he isn't...the guy couldnt even make an NFL practice squad last year

At this point in his career, there are a lot of QBs out there who are worth having over Vick. The only QB worse than Vick is Sanchez.

[Lancelot Gobbo]

iluvdaeagles, on 29 January 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

no he isn't...the guy couldnt even make an NFL practice squad last year

and now he's going to the Super Bowl

[DEagle7]

I don't think Kelly plans to give the QB job to anyone this off-season.  Foles is going to have to earn it against some kind of competition (either FA, draft, or Vick).  That being said I don't think Dixon is a real threat to take over the QB job. Yeah he ran a solid offense in college but the dude couldn't even make an NFL roster this year. Maybe as a camp body/third stringer though.

The hidden value of Dixon however is that he can be a decent RGIII practice dummy.  Apparently he did a good job acting like RGIII when the Ravens were preparing to face the Redskins this year.  Kind of a weak reason to bring a guy in though.

[Solomon]

knapp_nick, on 29 January 2013 - 10:12 AM, said:

He is 28.. whats the point of this?

Id rather get alex smith (also 28) bc at least he has shown he can play at a high level..

More than anything I think foles deserves a shot but at this moment it SEEMS foles is on the outside looking in on this QB situation which I think is a shame..

He has?

[RUEagle]

I'd be ok with this.  Just get Vick out of here.

[aman88]

This team is going south so quickly it is sad.  I can sincerely say I want this to blow up in their faces so bad it gets both Kelly and Roseman fired.  Lurie looks so stupid that he is literally forced to sell the team so Philadelphia can get the owner and franchise they deserve.

[knapp_nick]

Solomon, on 29 January 2013 - 10:17 AM, said:

He has?

Yes he has.. NFC championship game last year.. how many games has dixon even played in??

[L.E.]

iluvdaeagles, on 29 January 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

no he isn't...the guy couldnt even make an NFL practice squad last year

Still makes him better than the turnover factory your crush has become.

[Solomon]

knapp_nick, on 29 January 2013 - 10:24 AM, said:

Yes he has.. NFC championship game last year.. how many games has dixon even played in??

Wasn't meant to sound like I'm against him or that I'm all for Dixon, I honestly haven't followed Smith much. I know he played well last year and was having a great year this year, for him, but I don't know what that means.

[DEagle7]

aman88, on 29 January 2013 - 10:23 AM, said:

This team is going south so quickly it is sad.  I can sincerely say I want this to blow up in their faces so bad it gets both Kelly and Roseman fired.  Lurie looks so stupid that he is literally forced to sell the team so Philadelphia can get the owner and franchise they deserve.

He was hired a few weeks ago and you want him fired already?  Before he has had a chance to show literally anything, one way or another?  If you want the team to fail please do everyone a favor and cheer for another team, because this is one of the dumbest things I've read in a long time.

[Eagles_Section115_Row29]

aman88, on 29 January 2013 - 10:23 AM, said:

This team is going south so quickly it is sad.  I can sincerely say I want this to blow up in their faces so bad it gets both Kelly and Roseman fired.  Lurie looks so stupid that he is literally forced to sell the team so Philadelphia can get the owner and franchise they deserve.

Here is to the new season right?  At-least give it a few games before crying about what you don't know.