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[Bdawk330]

One more game and this scumbag is gone

[Rodney_Zero]

In their prime I would take Urlacher over him by a mile

[E v 2.0]

I just find it hilarious what a complete fraud this dude is. He is so over the top with his BS it makes it that much more obvious. Hilarious that people buy into it.

It's like people who believe politicians are clean as a whistle.

[Bdawk330]

God told him to use hgh

[Dirty 30 Sucks]

he absolutely did steroids, didnt kill anyone. still a myth.

not to mention this is the dumbest topic in the history of the Superbowl. Who cares who does steroids. Everyone on the field uses steroids or HGH. You think all players in the NFL get to be 6-4 260 lbs and run 4.4's naturally?

[Rodney_Zero]

Dirty 30 Sucks, on 29 January 2013 - 04:01 PM, said:

he absolutely did steroids, didnt kill anyone. still a myth.

not to mention this is the dumbest topic in the history of the Superbowl. Who cares who does steroids. Everyone on the field uses steroids or HGH. You think all players in the NFL get to be 6-4 260 lbs and run 4.4's naturally?

Link?, I know Jevon kearse at 6' 4" 255 was beyone fast, but it's not the norm for guys to run a 4.4 forty @ 260 LB's

[Brackett]

Rodney_Zero, on 29 January 2013 - 02:50 PM, said:

In their prime I would take Urlacher over him by a mile

No you wouldn't.

[dawkins4prez]

Maybe the last true football warrior.

[Rodney_Zero]

Brackett, on 29 January 2013 - 05:02 PM, said:

No you wouldn't.

Yes I would

[Regal]

Nnamdi Pamdi, on 29 January 2013 - 05:13 PM, said:

Maybe the last true football warrior.

Bahahahahahaha!

[Footballman175]

This has to be the biggest joke of a story i ever heard. Ray Lewis has had 17 years of tests and in his last year someone comes out accusing him of "Deer-Antler Spray".

The fact that this is a story is hilarious

[rocketman44]

The guy who he supposedly contacted to get this stuff was on ESPN Radio this afternoon (Van Pelt/Russillo Show) and claims that this stuff is as natural as "steak and milk", and that it "should not be a banned substance".

But it is not a question of "should not be". If it IS banned, and Lewis used it then there's a problem. And it's a problem whether or not banned substances are widely used (wink, wink) or not, because, if this can all be substantiated it is now public knowledge, and public perception means something, though perhaps not to Ray Lewis.

Lewis's next stop is in Canton, he'll go in whether this is all verified or not. This isn't baseball, after all.

[Dirty 30 Sucks]

Rodney_Zero, on 29 January 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

Link?, I know Jevon kearse at 6' 4" 255 was beyone fast, but it's not the norm for guys to run a 4.4 forty @ 260 LB's

Wow you took that way too literally. Running 4.5's whatever.

[Footballman175]

Dirty 30 Sucks, on 29 January 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:

Wow you took that way too literally. Running 4.5's whatever.

he ran a 4.58 in 1996, he is not 6 ft 4 260, not even close. More like 6 ft 1 240.

You think a time like that when Ray Lewis was 21 years old is unreasonable?

[redrum52]

Footballman175, on 29 January 2013 - 06:11 PM, said:

What the hell are you talking about? he ran a 4.58 in 1996, he is not 6 ft 4 260, not even close. More like 6 ft 1 240.

You think a time like that when Ray Lewis was 21 years old is unreasonable? Please.

He wasnt talking about Lewis specifically,  just football players in general.

[Footballman175]

redrum52, on 29 January 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

He wasnt talking about Lewis specifically,  just football players in general.

Didn't see that. Thanks

[Dirty 30 Sucks]

Footballman175, on 29 January 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:

Didn't see that. Thanks

yeah sorry should have clarified it. For example Julius Peppers who was caught with steroids is like 6-6 300 lbs and runs like the wind you dont just do that naturally.

[DawkinsOwnage03]

Rodney_Zero, on 29 January 2013 - 02:50 PM, said:

In their prime I would take Urlacher over him by a mile

What?

[Dirty 30 Sucks]

DawkinsOwnage03, on 29 January 2013 - 06:57 PM, said:

What?

i know i thought the same thing but left it alone. Ray Lewis is the best MLB ever.

[mike030270]

NFL.com saying Lewis may play 10 games next season...thought he was retiring this year? Guess he just trolled everyone

[Markyc9876]

mike030270, on 29 January 2013 - 07:16 PM, said:

NFL.com saying Lewis may play 10 games next season...thought he was retiring this year? Guess he just trolled everyone

they were quoting Ed Reed

[DEagle7]

IGF-1 can't be taken orally/sub-linguallly, it won't make it to your circulation.  This really isn't a story.

[LaxPlayerX3]

This is a non-story. The amount of IGF-1 in deer antler is almost negligible. The only way to get the real effects is to inject it.

Also dermal applications (patches, sprays) only absorb at about 10% of the substance that is in whatever you're using.

In typical OTC deer antler, they contain 30 ng of IGF-1 and on cycles people use  50-100mcg a day. So that's over 1,000x the potency and if the dermals only absorb at 10% then they'd need 10,000x the amount you'd get from a single dose of OTC stuff. I'm not sure if there's really any kind of "mega potent" deer antler extract because that's the only way it'd be plausible.

Also, how is a player using any kind of PED surprising in the least? If they didn't, it would takes players a lot longer to come back from injury. There wouldn't be people like Suggs come back perfectly fine 6 months after an ACL tear.

[E v 2.0]

@ people thinking all he took was deer antlers.

You can NOT compete with the best of the best in any professional sport without PEDs. Not cycling, not baseball, not football, not tennis (have you seen the Williams sisters for christs sake?), not track, etc etc. All of the top level players must use something these days to compete.

The planet has never seen the strength and speed of todays players. Not even close.

[djbigf]

Nnamdi Pamdi, on 29 January 2013 - 05:13 PM, said:

Maybe the last true football player to get away with murder since OJ.

FYP

[AceofSpades]

Last night on NFL Total Access, Ian Rapoport proved the guy behind this is a liar and is only out to promote his products. Rapoport went on to say that he tried to push his products at the Senior Bowl a few years ago, players have already sued him for lying about them using his products and he's looking for players and teams to help promote him and his products. The funny thing is, the NFL already tests for that substance. Why is it just coming out now? Ironic that at the biggest day for media access, this guy comes out with this story. Just look at the timing. Make sure this comes out on Media Day and during Super Bowl week. The guy's trying to get fame and fortune and recognition for himself. I think he's lying and is only trying to look out for himself and not trying to "tell the truth".

[DEagle7]

E v 2.0, on 30 January 2013 - 02:59 AM, said:

@ people thinking all he took was deer antlers.

You can NOT compete with the best of the best in any professional sport without PEDs. Not cycling, not baseball, not football, not tennis (have you seen the Williams sisters for christs sake?), not track, etc etc. All of the top level players must use something these days to compete.

The planet has never seen the strength and speed of todays players. Not even close.

He probably has taken/is taking something, but THIS particular story is clearly not true. 1) The accuser is a know con-artist and 2) IGF-1 cant be absorbed orally (it's the equivalent of trying to get drunk by dipping your balls in a glass of whiskey).  So basically this is a non-story without any better evidence than "he's bigger and stronger than he should be", which applies to basically every NFL player outside of Chad Hall.

[Hank_TheBody_Fraley]

Ray Lewis is a delusional narcissist. I will be incredibly happy when I can watch football and not have to see that stupid seizure "dance" of his...

[CountBlah]

Footballman175, on 29 January 2013 - 05:21 PM, said:

This has to be the biggest joke of a story i ever heard. Ray Lewis has had 17 years of tests and in his last year someone comes out accusing him of "Deer-Antler Spray".

The fact that this is a story is hilarious

What is a pee test going to tell you when HGH can only be detected in the blood.  

Lance passed all his tests as well,  doesn't mean ish