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[eaglesflyers#1]

http://m.nfl.com/new...ld-join-chiefs/

Not sure how I would feel about that...But if it came down to Alex or Geno I would be all for Alex

[Shocker54]

Alex has been to an NFC title game and probably would have won if Kyle Williams didn't have butter fingers.

He ran a similar system as Chips with Urban Meyer in Utah.

Was also having a great year this year until he got hurt for a short period of time and Colin ended up stealing the show.

Anyone who hates this as a year or two stopgap until we draft the next prototype for this system is an idiot.

[matchew88]

Isn't he kind of dumb?

[VaBeach_Eagle]

eaglesflyers#1, on 01 February 2013 - 03:19 AM, said:

Eagles have showed interest in Alex Smith

They've showed interest huh?

[dacaptn4u]

good lawd no

[Hoagie]

Misleading thread title.  Ban him.

[time2rock]

I highly doubt Kelly will consider Smith.  We are in the first year of rebuilding - if we were a couple years in and QB was one of only a few needs, then perhaps.  But if you're going to completely rebuild, that should start with a young guy to develop at QB while putting together the rest of the team (not with a vet that is really nothing more than a decent game manager).

[DFC]

Hoagie, on 01 February 2013 - 05:24 AM, said:

Misleading thread title.  Ban him.

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Mr. RapSheet named the Buffalo Bills, Philadelphia Eagles, Arizona Cardinals and Kansas City Chiefs as teams that have shown early interest.

That's in the article.  Put the ban hammer down.

[voodoochile75]

I've said it for a while now.  I can easily see this happening and feel it will. We need an NFL starter to come in and push Nick Foles to see if he can reach the next level. I see Smith as the perfect fit for that.

[The_Talon]

voodoochile75, on 01 February 2013 - 07:01 AM, said:

I've said it for a while now.  I can easily see this happening and feel it will. We need an NFL starter to come in and push Nick Foles to see if he can reach the next level. I see Smith as the perfect fit for that.

Smith will get a shot as a clear starter. Not sure that would happen here.

[voodoochile75]

The_Talon, on 01 February 2013 - 07:06 AM, said:

Smith will get a shot as a clear starter. Not sure that would happen here.

I think he could cement himself as the starter for now. If Foles progresses the way some folks feel he will he may win the job back eventually. In the time it takes to figure it out hopefully the next hope will be found in the draft.

We're not left with a lot of options here. Myself, I think the knocks on Foles should be fixable and he will be a good QB in this league. The problem isn't his arm, it's his feet.  He may not be a fast runner, but he's smart enough and manages himself in the pocket well. There were times he simply stepped out of the way instead of dashing in panic like Vick.  He's s smart kid. If he can learn to keep his feet under him when he throws he'll be alright.

But I could easily be wrong.

[eephraim]

voodoochile75, on 01 February 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:

I think he could cement himself as the starter for now. If Foles progresses the way some folks feel he will he may win the job back eventually. In the time it takes to figure it out hopefully the next hope will be found in the draft.

We're not left with a lot of options here. Myself, I think the knocks on Foles should be fixable and he will be a good QB in this league. The problem isn't his arm, it's his feet.  He may not be a fast runner, but he's smart enough and manages himself in the pocket well. There were times he simply stepped out of the way instead of dashing in panic like Vick.  He's s smart kid. If he can learn to keep his feet under him when he throws he'll be alright.

But I could easily be wrong.

That is one of the major likes I have on Foles. His movement in the pocket to slide and step up is light years ahead of where I'd think a rookie QB would be. The major dislike is any ball he throws beyond 20 yards has this gawdawful arc to it that seems to keep the ball in the air forever. Once safeties get a good look at that they will be baiting him to throw it deep just to get picks.

[wildturtle]

No Not Never.

[voodoochile75]

eephraim, on 01 February 2013 - 07:21 AM, said:

That is one of the major likes I have on Foles. His movement in the pocket to slide and step up is light years ahead of where I'd think a rookie QB would be. The major dislike is any ball he throws beyond 20 yards has this gawdawful arc to it that seems to keep the ball in the air forever. Once safeties get a good look at that they will be baiting him to throw it deep just to get picks.

I agree, but hopefully he can work that out through coaching. It would be nice to see what he can do with an O line as well. But back to coaching, this year was more about playbook and game planning, not so much on his mechanics.

A lot of folks were warm and fuzzy about the stories on Trent Richards mentoring him on breaking down film and such, but I was kinda bent out of shape about it hoping someone would have talked him him about his feet, particularly his back one.

[FanSinceWayBack]

voodoochile75, on 01 February 2013 - 07:01 AM, said:

I've said it for a while now.  I can easily see this happening and feel it will. We need an NFL starter to come in and push Nick Foles to see if he can reach the next level. I see Smith as the perfect fit for that.

As do I. Hes not over the hill old ... hes very smart ... and played a similar O at Utah. I guess it would all depend on the $$$ he wants versus what other teams are willing to pay

[macgregor]

Is the OP is bucking for a job with Bleacher report? The Chiefs, not the Eagles  showed interest. Why lie?

[CharGP02A]

Shocker54, on 01 February 2013 - 03:23 AM, said:

Alex has been to an NFC title game and probably would have won if Kyle Williams didn't have butter fingers.

He ran a similar system as Chips with Urban Meyer in Utah.

Was also having a great year this year until he got hurt for a short period of time and Colin ended up stealing the show.

Anyone who hates this as a year or two stopgap until we draft the next prototype for this system is an idiot.

I hate it and I'm not an idiot. A stopgap is EXACTLY what he is. Alex Smith wouldn't win the Super Bowl with this team so there's no point in trying to "go all in" for him QB. That is essentially what you're doing when you're bringing him in because he wants to be a starter and a long time starter. That is his goal. Alex Smith is a game manager QB. We don't even know what kind of system Chip Kelly is going to run anyway so all that system talk is heresay. What's the point in making the playoffs and losing with Alex Smith? It doesn't help the team rebuild. Nick Foles is an unknown but has shown flashes. Ride the wave with Nick Foles for a season and then determine the QB class of 2014. The 2013 class sucks and isn't worth our time.

[igglesgiggles]

FanSinceWayBack, on 01 February 2013 - 07:32 AM, said:

As do I. Hes not over the hill old ... hes very smart ... and played a similar O at Utah. I guess it would all depend on the $$$ he wants versus what other teams are willing to pay

I think a lot of you are discounting what Foles showed last year. He has shown an ability at quarterback that has been historically and overwhelmingly successful in the NFL. Alex Smith is going to expect to start for a while. He is not going to go in a situation similar to what he dealt with this year. So him coming here would not be a fit if Foles continues to show improvement. He knows he would get benched and be cut because his cap number would be too high.

My prediction is the Eagles draft another QB later in the draft and sign a vet as a backup with a contrasting style of play to Foles. Foles will have to earn the starting spot but if look at the games he had last year there is no reason he should not be able to win that spot.

[igglesgiggles]

CharGP02A, on 01 February 2013 - 07:44 AM, said:

I hate it and I'm not an idiot. A stopgap is EXACTLY what he is. Alex Smith wouldn't win the Super Bowl with this team so there's no point in trying to "go all in" for him QB. That is essentially what you're doing when you're bringing him in because he wants to be a starter and a long time starter. That is his goal. Alex Smith is a game manager QB. We don't even know what kind of system Chip Kelly is going to run anyway so all that system talk is heresay. What's the point in making the playoffs and losing with Alex Smith? It doesn't help the team rebuild. Nick Foles is an unknown but has shown flashes. Ride the wave with Nick Foles for a season and then determine the QB class of 2014. The 2013 class sucks and isn't worth our time.

This. Signing Smith would only hinder the development of this team. Get used to it folks. We are rebuilding. Some pieces will stay and others will be gone. The Akeem Jordan's, jamar Chaneys, Dallas Reynolds, of the world will be gone from this team. They are going to replace some starters and rebuild the depth on this team.

[vic92353]

igglesgiggles, on 01 February 2013 - 07:51 AM, said:

This. Signing Smith would only hinder the development of this team. Get used to it folks. We are rebuilding. Some pieces will stay and others will be gone. The Akeem Jordan's, jamar Chaneys, Dallas Reynolds, of the world will be gone from this team. They are going to replace some starters and rebuild the depth on this team.

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[Phila.:chip]

The reason Alex Smith was benched was because Harbaugh was hiding him to some degree. All he was for the 49ers was a game manager. The 49ers were a ball control offense with Alex Smith. Last year, the 49ers were basically a ball control offense with Smith. With Crabtree, Davis, and Gin, they were still a ball control offense that relied on good defense and the running game. If they got down, it was hard for them to come back with Alex Smith.

In short, Alex smith sucks. I'd rather have Vick for a stop gap then Smith.

eephraim, on 01 February 2013 - 07:21 AM, said:

That is one of the major likes I have on Foles. His movement in the pocket to slide and step up is light years ahead of where I'd think a rookie QB would be. The major dislike is any ball he throws beyond 20 yards has this gawdawful arc to it that seems to keep the ball in the air forever. Once safeties get a good look at that they will be baiting him to throw it deep just to get picks.

That signals a lack of arm strength. Sorry, do not want.

[dmor]

eaglesflyers#1, on 01 February 2013 - 03:19 AM, said:

http://m.nfl.com/new...ld-join-chiefs/

Not sure how I would feel about that...But if it came down to Alex or Geno I would be all for Alex

Geno is not coming to Philly.

igglesgiggles, on 01 February 2013 - 07:46 AM, said:

I think a lot of you are discounting what Foles showed last year. He has shown an ability at quarterback that has been historically and overwhelmingly successful in the NFL. Alex Smith is going to expect to start for a while. He is not going to go in a situation similar to what he dealt with this year. So him coming here would not be a fit if Foles continues to show improvement. He knows he would get benched and be cut because his cap number would be too high.

My prediction is the Eagles draft another QB later in the draft and sign a vet as a backup with a contrasting style of play to Foles. Foles will have to earn the starting spot but if look at the games he had last year there is no reason he should not be able to win that spot.

I disagree.  Look for Dennis Dixon to come to the club.  From what I hear, this draft is not the year to find your QB of the future - next year's is.

[BtotheH]

I wouldn't be opposed to signing Smith, but I don't think it will happen either. The way Smith has played in the past two years, he has proven to be a penciled in starter, although he got benched for Kaepernick. If we keep Foles and bring in Smith, Smith is not garunteed the starter......if Smith goes to Arizona, Buffalo or KC, he is 100% the starter from day one, and he may want that.

But then again it all depends on what Kelly thinks after evaluating film on Vick and Foles. I mean the tape on Vick is what it is, Foles has a better chance just because he was a rookie but if neither QB jump out and wow Kelly with their play, Smith could become an option here.

If Kelly is as creative and smart as people say he is on offense, there shouldn't be any reason why we couldn't contend with the offense roster we have now. Look I am not saying playoff bound fellas but we could win games with this offense if Kelly does what he ahs said so far. This offense with a medicore to good QB can still do damage, we just never seen it under Reid in the past few years because his play selection was jacked.

It's just the defense that needs the major attention and total overhaul.

[Trips]

matchew88, on 01 February 2013 - 03:52 AM, said:

Isn't he kind of dumb?

Actually he's really intelligent. One of the smartest QBs in the league.

Shocker54, on 01 February 2013 - 03:23 AM, said:

Alex has been to an NFC title game and probably would have won if Kyle Williams didn't have butter fingers.

He ran a similar system as Chips with Urban Meyer in Utah.

Was also having a great year this year until he got hurt for a short period of time and Colin ended up stealing the show.

Anyone who hates this as a year or two stopgap until we draft the next prototype for this system is an idiot.

Bingo

[iluvdaeagles]

when andy reid was the eagles coach he was interested

alex is going to KC or CLE

[WeaponX225]

I pointed this out twice & got laughed at for it lol. I would be all for it, He led the NFL in completion% & should of been in the SB last year if it werent for Kyle Williams boofing it. He is also quite mobile too, & seems like a Philly guy. Hope we get him.

[purephillyfan]

Not much to pick in this years draft as far as a QB goes. Maybe we trade the number one for two number twos. That would get us maybe two good players that could start. I think a few of these guys projected to go in the first will drop to the second round.

[k9fiend]

"Eagles have showed interest in Alex Smith..." Soooooooooo, Andy Reid who is no longer here (Check), possibly kicked the tires for a trade for Alex Smith (Check), all which occurred last year, (Check)....nevermind

I was going to try to come up with something witty and sarcastic about how lame this thread is, but  ran out of talent...sorry it's too early on the left coast.

[we_gotta_believe]

Do not want, would be too costly, and I don't think he'd be worth it considering the current state of the team. If he would be willing to accept something as little as $5M or $6M a year for a 2yr contract, then I guess it wouldn't be the end of the world, but I just don't see it happening.

[voodoochile75]

igglesgiggles, on 01 February 2013 - 07:46 AM, said:

I think a lot of you are discounting what Foles showed last year. He has shown an ability at quarterback that has been historically and overwhelmingly successful in the NFL. Alex Smith is going to expect to start for a while. He is not going to go in a situation similar to what he dealt with this year. So him coming here would not be a fit if Foles continues to show improvement. He knows he would get benched and be cut because his cap number would be too high.

My prediction is the Eagles draft another QB later in the draft and sign a vet as a backup with a contrasting style of play to Foles. Foles will have to earn the starting spot but if look at the games he had last year there is no reason he should not be able to win that spot.

You're actually in agreement with us. We're speaking highly of the promise of Foles while still observing that he has some fundamental flaws that will need work. He should be able to fix it easily, very much like it should be easy for Bryce Brown to learn to hold the ball better. While they're not difficult concepts, it's up to the player to utilize them effectively.