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[Prodraftnik]

4. Is traded to the Cards, they want Eric OT or Geno QB we get their 7, 71, and next yrs
    3rd. round pick.

7. Is traded to the Bucks, they want CB or DT we get their 13, 44, and we send them  
    pick 99.


13. Xavier Rhodes FSU CB 34 6'1" 215 Lbs

35. D.J. Fluker Alab. ROT 6'6" 355 Lbs

44. Alex Okafor Tx OLB/DE 6'4" 260 Lbs

67. Phillip Thomas FS 6'1" 215 Lbs

71. Jonathan Cyprien SS 6'0' 210 Lbs

131. Dion Sims Mich. St. TE 6'5" 248 Lbs

187. Rodney Smith FSU WRP 6'5" 219 Lbs

219. Baker Steinkuhler Neb. DE 6'5" 290 Lbs

[ahb]

I like the idea of trading down twice but that is way too early for Rhodes

[Asiragusa]

ahb, on 02 February 2013 - 09:21 PM, said:

I like the idea of trading down twice but that is way too early for Rhodes

I disagree

[Footballman175]

Too early for rhodes

[Asiragusa]

Not if he has a great combine

[eagledrew13]

Rhodes needs to have one of the all time best combines for a CB to stand a chance at being top 15.

[eagledrew13]

I also think 7 71 and a 2014 3rd would be the low end of potential trade ops from 4. With Arizona, buff, and nyj seemingly desperate for a QB, if geno makes it to 4 the roof comes off the trade.

Given the fact that that gabbert and locker were unworthy top 10 picks, I wont be surprised if Barkley nassIb and/or Wilson wind up being first rounders potentially in the top 10

[Marinomanx013]

I don't think it's too early for Rhodes. He's at a position of need, yes, but it's not that far from where I think he should be taken (~20-25th). If he's a guy you like and you see him as a day one starter and he's the top guy on your board... I don't care if "he shouldn't be drafted that high", I get him... as long as he isn't a 28 year old firefighter.

[Asiragusa]

Marinomanx013, on 03 February 2013 - 01:34 AM, said:

I don't think it's too early for Rhodes. He's at a position of need, yes, but it's not that far from where I think he should be taken (~20-25th). If he's a guy you like and you see him as a day one starter and he's the top guy on your board... I don't care if "he shouldn't be drafted that high", I get him... as long as he isn't a 28 year old firefighter.

Perfectly said

[Hawley081887]

Marinomanx013, on 03 February 2013 - 01:34 AM, said:

I don't think it's too early for Rhodes. He's at a position of need, yes, but it's not that far from where I think he should be taken (~20-25th). If he's a guy you like and you see him as a day one starter and he's the top guy on your board... I don't care if "he shouldn't be drafted that high", I get him... as long as he isn't a 28 year old firefighter.

Couldnt agree more

[Footballman175]

Desmond Trufant is rated better than Rhodes right now.

There is no way Rhodes goes top 15.

[Asiragusa]

Footballman175, on 03 February 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:

Desmond Trufant is rated better than Rhodes right now.

There is no way Rhodes goes top 15.

I saw that too.  So is Milliner and Banks.  No way he goes top 15

[Hawley081887]

Footballman175, on 03 February 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:

Desmond Trufant is rated better than Rhodes right now.

There is no way Rhodes goes top 15.

Thats fine I would love to see Rhodes fall to us in the 2nd.

[Pegger]

Prodraftnik, on 02 February 2013 - 08:57 PM, said:

[b]7. Is traded to the Bucks...

Why would Milwaukee be a part of the NFL draft?

[ThaPhenom]

dont really care to have Fluker... Im pretty high on Dennis Kelly right now and i think he can take over the RT spot for us, dont want to waste a 2nd round pick on a player that we'll feel obligated to start
Kelly could be a diamond in the rough

[Robbieb77]

Think the Bears take Fluker in round 1.

[phillygrump]

Marinomanx013, on 03 February 2013 - 01:34 AM, said:

I don't think it's too early for Rhodes. He's at a position of need, yes, but it's not that far from where I think he should be taken (~20-25th). If he's a guy you like and you see him as a day one starter and he's the top guy on your board... I don't care if "he shouldn't be drafted that high", I get him... as long as he isn't a 28 year old firefighter.

Nothing wrong with firefighters, just one who played football longer and isn't 26.

[natethegreat527]

The eagles better get more than a 1st and 3rd and a 2014 4th for trading back u hqd the bucs give up there first 2 rounders for the sameamount of picks moving back.. if the cards gave up 2013 1st 3rd and a 2014 1st it would be ok

[Hawley081887]

ThaPhenom, on 03 February 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

dont really care to have Fluker... Im pretty high on Dennis Kelly right now and i think he can take over the RT spot for us, dont want to waste a 2nd round pick on a player that we'll feel obligated to start
Kelly could be a diamond in the rough

I am with you.  A lot of people are showing we should take a tackle reallly early.  I though Kelly played really well at RT and with a healthy offensive line next to him he might play even better.  I would like to see him get a shot and if it doesnt work out hit the offensive line early next years draft.  I just think that they are way too many other needs on this team and with a healthy o line they dominated two years ago and thats why McCoy was able to put up 20 tds.

[RedZoneD25]

All these people saying "too early for..." don't know about the Draft. If "your guy" is on the board at your pick, you take him regardless of the round. From a fan perspective, would there be other players on the board inside the top 15 better suited for the pick than Rhodes? Perhaps, but we'll never see the actual draft board so generic big boards don't matter.

[Asiragusa]

RedZoneD25, on 04 February 2013 - 11:41 AM, said:

All these people saying "too early for..." don't know about the Draft. If "your guy" is on the board at your pick, you take him regardless of the round. From a fan perspective, would there be other players on the board inside the top 15 better suited for the pick than Rhodes? Perhaps, but we'll never see the actual draft board so generic big boards don't matter.

Well said but if its really early you have to know to trade back and how much

RedZoneD25, on 04 February 2013 - 11:41 AM, said:

All these people saying "too early for..." don't know about the Draft. If "your guy" is on the board at your pick, you take him regardless of the round. From a fan perspective, would there be other players on the board inside the top 15 better suited for the pick than Rhodes? Perhaps, but we'll never see the actual draft board so generic big boards don't matter.

Well said but if its really early you have to know to trade back and how much

[Eagle Gator 12]

I think you almost have to do FAs with this. Perhaps with FA people aren't so upset with where guys are drafted. Actually could change the whole draft all together, goes both ways.

[Footballman175]

RedZoneD25, on 04 February 2013 - 11:41 AM, said:

All these people saying "too early for..." don't know about the Draft. If "your guy" is on the board at your pick, you take him regardless of the round. From a fan perspective, would there be other players on the board inside the top 15 better suited for the pick than Rhodes? Perhaps, but we'll never see the actual draft board so generic big boards don't matter.

That is a completely flawed idea going into the draft. You lose a ton of value with your draft pick thinking like that.

Just like this year, i don't think there is a player worthy of taking at 4 other than Joeckel

[Couch Potato]

RedZoneD25, on 04 February 2013 - 11:41 AM, said:

All these people saying "too early for..." don't know about the Draft. If "your guy" is on the board at your pick, you take him regardless of the round......

Isn't that how we ended up with Watkins in R1 and Jarrett in R2, though? I remember doing at least a couple of mocks on here back then that included both of those guys - difference being I thought Watkins should go no higher than R2 and Jarrett R5.

[Asiragusa]

There is no "your guy". You take the best available player to build a football team

[Footballman175]

Asiragusa, on 04 February 2013 - 07:04 PM, said:

There is no "your guy". You take the best available player to build a football team

this. BPA all the way.

You don't take EJ Manuel in round 2 because you think he's your guy

[Asiragusa]

Footballman175, on 04 February 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

this. BPA all the way.

You don't take EJ Manuel in round 2 because you think he's your guy

I'm glad someone agrees with me

[NotJoshua]

Footballman175, on 04 February 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

this. BPA all the way.

You don't take EJ Manuel in round 2 because you think he's your guy

True words!  I'm hoping EJ drops in the third round so we can pick him up after getting our critical positions on the other side of the ball taken care of first. For some reason I am very high on EJ's development in NFL.

[RedZoneD25]

Couch Potato, on 04 February 2013 - 06:34 PM, said:

Isn't that how we ended up with Watkins in R1 and Jarrett in R2, though? I remember doing at least a couple of mocks on here back then that included both of those guys - difference being I thought Watkins should go no higher than R2 and Jarrett R5.

Sure, it's not fool-proof, but it's also how SF got Jerry Rice instead of Dallas. SF locked on, traded up and the rest is history.

I believe there is a difference between pulling the trigger on a player you want on your team and panicking to fill holes, the latter is what brought Watkins/Jarrett to Philly. I am not saying to reach for need, I'm saying you assess your options and take who you think is the best asset to the team. That's what I mean by "your guy."

UNLESS you convince yourself and your coworkers that the one player can be "the guy", in which case you better be right. Lord knows Rice is the exception and not the rule. I don't trust Howie to make the right call on that, so I'd prefer it if he did take the top guy available. If it's a DE, CB, OT, LS, whatever.

[ThaPhenom]

switch Fluker with another CB and ill be happy.., idrc to get a OL in the draft, we have Dennis Kelly to play RT, and he played well