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[Eagle Gator 12]

Okay so I'm sitting at my desk at work not working lol and next thing I know I have a mock together so I thought I would put it up here.

Keys:

Bell cut (in real life!)
Nnamdi cut (no trade value)
DRC resigned
Tapp not resigned
**VICK RESTRUCTURED** 10 mil off
Colt, Dunlap and Dorenbos reisigned everyone else released of our FAs

Pat Shumur OC
Ted Monachino DC **guess we got Billy Davis


FA:
Some decent names no one huge.

Richard Seymour DE- he wants out of oakland and is sold on being the focal point on our new 3-4 in the trenches. Plus he's not nearly as expensive as years past

Paul Kruger OLB- gets out of Baltimore with his ring and them tied up trying to get flacco and Ellerbe and cary williams deals as well as a few others. Sold on immediately starting. Overpay a little bit.

Pat Chung S- new start for him under his old coach

Kenaan Lewis CB - not the best FA CB but he wants out of Pitt for some reason. Familiar with 3-4 coverages

Eben Britton OG- backup veteran could push to start

Dennis Dixon QB

Zac Diles ILB - back up

Draft-

1.) Star Lotulelei DT/NT/DE Utah- we come into the draft fully expecting to trade back after joeckel and star are gone but he's still there and we jump!

2.) Kenny Vaccarro S Texas - if you know my posts I'm a Matt Elam Fan all the way. But I think he goes first and around 25-32 range and coming into day two Vaccarro is the best safety left and with the right coaching I think he can be good. He just needs to learn the game and not play off athletics.

3.) Lane Johnson OT Oklahoma- we wanted joeckel to fall, he didn't. We didn't want to reach for fluker and Vaccarro was still there so now we attack OT with a solid guy
****EDIT**** to Oday Aboushi OT Virginia - after discussion we decided lane won't make it to the 3rd. Oday was the only bright spot on UVA this year.


4.) Tharold Simon CB LSU - DRC and Kenaan Lewis are solid starters but there's no reason not to bring in competition, thought he declared early but he's a good one

5.) Prentiss Waggner CB/S Tennessee- solid guy who can play both.

6.) Phillip Lutzenkirchen TE/FB/H-back Auburn- he was amazing with Cam Newton in the spread but after that with that terrible offense he fell off. Steal of the draft.

7.) Quanterius Smith 3-4 OLB Western Ky - 12.5 sacks before getting hurt and 3 of them on that guy DJ Fluker. Beast when he gets healthy again.

**NOTES**
****Didnt wanna keep Vick but it looks like we are leaning towards that. Just going off what it looks like we're doing

Lets see how the WRs perform before getting new ones, can be a priority next year

All reports have peters and the line healing fine, Kelly was solid at RT. Line isn't a gigantic need, just really RT.

D got a nice overhaul, lets see how cole, graham and curry perform and fit before shipping them off


QB - Vick/Foles , Dixon
RB - Shady , Brown , Lewis
FB - Havili/Lutzenkirchen
WR - Jackson , Johnson
WR - Maclin , Cooper
Slot- Avant
TE - Celek/Lutzenkirchen , Harbor
LT - Peters , Dunlap
LG - Herremans ,Britton
C - Kelce , Reynolds
RG - Mathis , Watkins
RT - Kelly/Aboushi

DE - Cox, Thornton
NT - Lotulelei, Patterson
DE - Seymour , Jenkins
OLB - Cole/Graham , hunt
ILB - Kendricks, Diles/ Matthews
ILB - Ryans , Jordan
OLB - Kruger , Curry , Smith
CB - Lewis , Simon
CB - DRC , Boykin , marsh
FS - Vaccarro , Coleman , Waggner
SS -Chung/Allen

Just a quick mock thrown together while I was at work, bash away.

[RUEagle]

Lane Johnson in the 3rd round?  

Like the mock very much otherwise.  I totally forgot about Lutzenkirhen.  I haven't seen his name pop up but loved what he did in college.  I wonder if he can make the transition to the NFL.

[Robbieb77]

Johnson and Fluker are gonig 1st/early 2nd

[Eagle Gator 12]

When I looked up Lane Johnson everything I saw had his grade 2-3 round. So it didn't seem out of place, of course I can't sit here and tell you I'm a Lane Johnson expert so he could go higher. I just made that pick off his grade. Change it to the OT from Virginia with the wild name if you don't think Lane w'll be there, I think he's solid as well

[downundermike]

I stopped reading at Vick restructured.

[Eagle Gator 12]

downundermike, on 07 February 2013 - 12:35 PM, said:

I stopped reading at Vick restructured.

Good

[nezzy]

I actually really like this mock, I think an offseason move that's being over looked is a Kick returner,when's the last time we had a feared KR?

[Eagle Gator 12]

nezzy, on 07 February 2013 - 01:27 PM, said:

I actually really like this mock, I think an offseason move that's being over looked is a Kick returner,when's the last time we had a feared KR?

I was actually looking at that which is funny. I looked at Cribbs who will come at a big price even at 29-30 years old. I saw Darius Reynaud from the titans with 3 special teams TDs this year but you have to assume they lock him up. Maybe Julian Edelman? Ted Ginn? No one really to sign..feel like we have to develop somebody within. I though Dion Lewis would be good but I was wrong there lol

[RUEagle]

Eagle Gator 12, on 07 February 2013 - 12:35 PM, said:

When I looked up Lane Johnson everything I saw had his grade 2-3 round. So it didn't seem out of place, of course I can't sit here and tell you I'm a Lane Johnson expert so he could go higher. I just made that pick off his grade. Change it to the OT from Virginia with the wild name if you don't think Lane w'll be there, I think he's solid as well

Johnson was considered an early 2nd (at worst to my knowledge) but looked really good at the Senior Bowl practices.  May be a mid to late 1st now.

[Eagle Gator 12]

RUEagle, on 07 February 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

Johnson was considered an early 2nd (at worst to my knowledge) but looked really good at the Senior Bowl practices.  May be a mid to late 1st now.

This was the first year in probably 4-5 years I didn't get to watch the senior bowl so I didn't get to see it, but I suppose after joeckel and Fisher, Johnson would be the next best OT so I suppose he really wouldn't make it to the 3rd. I'll make an edit of it

[RUEagle]

Yeah, still a good mock though EG12.  I think Joeckel is top 5, Fisher top 10, Johnson top 15-20 and Fluker a late 1st rounder.

[Eagle Gator 12]

RUEagle, on 07 February 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

Yeah, still a good mock though EG12.  I think Joeckel is top 5, Fisher top 10, Johnson top 15-20 and Fluker a late 1st rounder.

Thanks I tried to go a completely different approach then most. These mocks are getting to repetitive. I thought no big name safety, keep Vick since it looks like we will, no dumb trades etc. feel like its a possible offseason, still some holes but you can't fix them all immediately

[Asiragusa]

Not bad at all, but Vaccaro probably won't fall to there.  I love the Kruger signing

[nezzy]

Yea I think Kruger would be a great signing, guys got a helluva motor and is very physical, would really fit into an attacking 3-4 D (assuming that's what chip wants)

[Eagle Gator 12]

nezzy, on 07 February 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Yea I think Kruger would be a great signing, guys got a helluva motor and is very physical, would really fit into an attacking 3-4 D (assuming that's what chip wants)

And I just read something where they asked Kruger his plans for next season it was along the lines of: "I want to be on a team that wants me and I can go out and start and give it my all blah blah" sounds like he's open to leaving basically as long as its a fit. Gotta get him going to a 3-4!

[GoEagles614]

Need more NT, can't run a 3-4 with one NT. draft star, bring a vet in with him.

Don't like Richard S,makes us older. We need a foundation of youth, with veteran role players.

[Eagle Gator 12]

GoEagles614, on 07 February 2013 - 08:28 PM, said:

Need more NT, can't run a 3-4 with one NT. draft star, bring a vet in with him.

Don't like Richard S,makes us older. We need a foundation of youth, with veteran role players.

Well i literally threw this mock together in 30 minutes this morning so I didn't think of everything but yeah add a veteran NT to back up Star, however I'm sure a healthy Patterson could play NT. either way need a true NT for backup purposes

However I could care less about how old Seymour is, he's a baller. There's no need for a "youth movement" we're already one of the youngest teams in the league. Seymour could play 4 years here before his time is up and we could easily find a replacement in that time. In the meantime he dominates up there with star and cox and Kruger off the outside. Monstrous front, Seymour is a stopgap on the DL and setting the foundation. Want us to draft everyone so it's young across the board? Nah you gotta sign older guys too. Plain and simple.

[mmm4552]

I really like this, but I would much rather switch your 2nd and 3rd rounds... I want Barrett Jones in the 2nd then Phillip Thomas or Jonathan Cypris in the 3rd...I can really dig the Pat Chung pick up too...

[Asiragusa]

mmm4552, on 08 February 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

I really like this, but I would much rather switch your 2nd and 3rd rounds... I want Barrett Jones in the 2nd then Phillip Thomas or Jonathan Cypris in the 3rd...I can really dig the Pat Chung pick up too...

Phillip Thomas probably won't last to the 3rd

[LuciusLeftFoot]

FA - Like Kruger and Chung - lukewarm to cold on the rest
Also, I have no interest in bringing DRC back. Hopefully this can be avoided.

Draft- Lotulelei is a solid pick, we will need an NT to run Billy's 3-4. Might want to add another big-body DT/DE for this scheme through FA.
Like Vaccaro too, but not sure he drops to round 2.
Aboushi looked awful at Sr. Bowl - don't want him.
You definitely went in a different direction than most, so kudos for that. I must admit I know very little about most of the rest of your picks after round 3, so I won't respond to those.

[Phillysfan898]

LuciusLeftFoot, on 08 February 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

FA - Like Kruger and Chung - lukewarm to cold on the rest
Also, I have no interest in bringing DRC back. Hopefully this can be avoided.

Draft- Lotulelei is a solid pick, we will need an NT to run Billy's 3-4. Might want to add another big-body DT/DE for this scheme through FA.
Like Vaccaro too, but not sure he drops to round 2.
Aboushi looked awful at Sr. Bowl - don't want him.
You definitely went in a different direction than most, so kudos for that. I must admit I know very little about most of the rest of your picks after round 3, so I won't respond to those.

DRC had his best season with billy davis coaching

[Eagle Gator 12]

Phillysfan898, on 09 February 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

DRC had his best season with billy davis coaching

Agree..absolutely no reason to let him walk. Young, talented and he was just down last year. How can you get up for the games at the end of the season when you're like 6 under 500 and you know your defense is terrible. He will be fine with a new scheme and players around him.

[Phillysfan898]

Eagle Gator 12, on 09 February 2013 - 02:10 PM, said:

Agree..absolutely no reason to let him walk. Young, talented and he was just down last year. How can you get up for the games at the end of the season when you're like 6 under 500 and you know your defense is terrible. He will be fine with a new scheme and players around him.

FINALLY! People don't understand.. Every nfl player has bad years but we have a new defense a new year a new coach.. Lets see how we do

[Eagle Gator 12]

downundermike, on 07 February 2013 - 12:35 PM, said:

I stopped reading at Vick restructured.

LOLOLOL

[Phillysfan898]

Eagle Gator 12, on 11 February 2013 - 12:13 PM, said:

LOLOLOL

If only he knew

[ThaPhenom]

downundermike, on 07 February 2013 - 12:35 PM, said:

I stopped reading at Vick restructured.

Looks like you were wrong buddy

[RUEagle]

Ha, so much for that, huh?  Smh...

[BirdGang45]

Would sign Kyle Arrington instead of Lewis. Kyle has played in a NE, where i believe they run the 4-3 under.

Like the draft though.