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[Sack that QB]

He said from talking to people around the combine, he got a sense that the Eagles are looking to load up at TE and focus heavily at TE this offseason. He said they could carry as many as 4 or 5 TEs and eliminate the FB position entirely. He said one of Chip's top priorities this offseason is to find a TE that can stretch the field.

Chip wants a TE to be a huge part of the offense like it is in New England.

[PhillyBirds5_36_86]

Mr Ertz come on down

[birdguy]

Would be nice if we could pry Delanie Walker from San Francisco.  If not there should be some really solid vertical threats available in the middle rounds of this year's draft.

[Sack that QB]

If Jared Cook ever gets loose from Tennessee then I think he's a virtual lock to end up here.

[eagle45]

This draft doesn't really have that type of TE, IMO.  There are some nice prospects, but if you want the TE to have that type of role, I'd be on the lookout for a 6'6" type who runs in the 4.5 range.  

Yeah, those guys don't grow on trees, but neither do playmaking TE's.  If that's what you want for your offense, that's the prototype to draft.

Sack that QB, on 22 February 2013 - 07:30 PM, said:

If Jared Cook ever gets loose from Tennessee then I think he's a virtual lock to end up here.

His pre-draft measurables were on the Megatron level back in the day.  He's a perfectly good TE, just never put it all together as an offensive threat.

Apparently the Eagles initially wanted to draft Cook...remember that was the year they had serial trade downs?  They got too cute, lost him, and settled for Cornelius Ingram later on.

[Robbieb77]

Pretty sure I read that Cook is getting tagged.

[PhillyGreenMachine]

Cornelious Ingram?

[downundermike]

Make it happen Howie

[Sack that QB]

He probably will, but there is a big dispute about him fighting to be valued as a WR, not a TE. If he's valued as a WR his price greatly increases. That could make the relationship contentious.

[downundermike]

Sack that QB, on 22 February 2013 - 07:37 PM, said:

He probably will, but there is a big dispute about him fighting to be valued as a WR, not a TE. If he's valued as a WR his price greatly increases. That could make the relationship contentious.

He is looking to be tagged as a WR if the Titans try to use the franchise tag....don't think he will get that in a contract.

[Sack that QB]

Right. The price tag for franchising a WR is a lot higher than TE so they might not want to do that.

[PhillyBirds5_36_86]

He's nuts

[philly75]

Keep an eye on Nick Kasa. Could be a late rd sleeper.
Birds have shown alot of interest.

[nottsfootballfan]

Celek is average and harbor sucks, I'm all for this.

[Griffins22]

Eliminate FB entirely? That's a shame, I know Havili never made much of an impact but I always liked him for whatever reason.

[InfiniteSeriesN]

TE, yep, that was definitely one of the main reasons we we sucked last year.

[BirdGang45]

Zac Ertz.

[Clamdigger]

InfiniteSeriesN, on 22 February 2013 - 07:59 PM, said:

TE, yep, that was definitely one of the main reasons we we sucked last year.

What does that have to do with the direction that Chip wants to take the offense? Rebuilding is a multi-year deal. You're not going to fix every hole in the first off-season. If the TE's on the roster can't do what he wants his TE's to do, then it's just as much of a need as CB.

[nottsfootballfan]

InfiniteSeriesN, on 22 February 2013 - 07:59 PM, said:

TE, yep, that was definitely one of the main reasons we we sucked last year.

Cmon man.

Kelly wants down field blocking tes and tes who can split outside help with that.
Dynamic tes pose huge match up problems.

Rome wasn't built in a day.

[Jefetio]

I am very happy to hear this.  I've been banging that drum for about 6 years now.  Get rid of fullback, carry extra tight ends.

[Clamdigger]

Dion Jordan at 4. Put him in at TE in the RZ~

[eagles nut]

Yep, sign Delanie Walker as your hybrid TE/FB and then draft another TE in the 3rd or 4th round area.

[eaglepride]

What about Kelce's brother? He had a nice career at Cinc and he's banged up right now but he can play.

[BirdGang45]

eagles nut, on 22 February 2013 - 08:31 PM, said:

Yep, sign Delanie Walker as your hybrid TE/FB and then draft another TE in the 3rd or 4th round area.

That would be good too.

[biehndog]

Player Team Cap Hit Games Played Avg Receptions/game Avg Rec Yards/game Avg Rec TD/game
Jermichael Finley GB $8.75 M 50 3.8 48.2 0.32
Vernon Davis SF $8.74 M 64 3.8 50.3 0.48
Jason Witten DAL $8.0 M 64 5.9 62.7 0.30
Heath Miller PIT $7.96 M 61 3.9 45.0 0.30

Everyone has an opinion on Jermichael Finley. There's no question that he's a supremely athletic, talented tight end, but there's also no question that he has not lived up to that potential. His status with the Packers appears very much undecided at this point as well, and many fans would be happy to see him go. I'll be up front with my opinion. Personally, I think his detractors focus too much on struggles from previous seasons and his off-the-field antics to see the value that he brings to the Packers on the field. I feel like every catch Finley makes is greeted with a sarcastic chorus of "Oh look, Finley actually caught a ball," which drives me crazy. In any case, I'm not here to discuss my opinion on the player, but rather try to look at the factors surrounding this polarizing figure and make an educated guess on whether or not he will be a Packer in 2013.

[greenpassion]

dam at one time it looked like celek was gonna be one of the top te's in the league than his hands just turned to stone. delaney walker has the same problem though so i definitely dont want him. ive seen celek playing volley ball with defender enough

[WR_please]

There are many good TEs in this draft but there aren't any freaks (at least none we're aware of yet).  Is Brent Celek worth $4.5 million?  I don't see Celek getting open consistently in man coverage; the only time he seems to do damage is down the seam in cover-2.  Not to mention he always seems to have some nagging injuries.  He only had 1 TD in 2012.  I would keep him only because they'll probably have cap space anyway and there's no reason to create a need.  That said I would argue this team needs at least 2 new targets in the RZ, whether that's at WR or TE.

[Marinomanx013]

Vance McDonald?

[Footballman175]

6 ft 9 Tight End from Stanford....would look good in Green

[eagles nut]

You don't cut Celek this year. His cap number is around $4.5M but you'd only save his base salary which is around $3.2M. You're not likely to find a better veteran TE for that amount. Next year you can cut Celek free and clear with no dead money. You draft his replacement this year, cut him next year.