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[eagledrew13]

Free agency:
re-sign KIng Dunlap OT depth
sign Kyle Arrington CB
sign Randy Starks NT competition
sign Philip Wheeler LB
sign Chris Clemons S

None of these guys are the top free agents at their positions but can add experience and competition to the team.

Trades:
Foles and 7.4 to KC for 3.1
1.4 to buffalo for 1.8 and 2.9 buffalo trades for geno.
1.8 and 5.3 to Chicago for 1.20, 2.18, 5.20 and 2014 2nd. Chicago trades for fisher.
Nnamdi after restructure to TB for 5.14 and 2014 conditional.
3.5 to SD for 3.14 and 4.13

DRAFT:
1.20 J Hankins NT
2.3 X Rhodes CB
2.9 M Elam S
2.16 T Eifert TE
3.1 M Hunt DE
3.14 B Jones OL
4.4 J Simon OLB
4.13 W Davis CB
5.14 C Nixon OT
5.20 M Scott QB
6.28 M Wilson WR
7.6 A Mellete WR
7.24 R Allen P

[dawk1977]

Do you really think barret jones makes it to the third? I don't really like hankins in the first.   I don't really want to trade down that far.  But if we did I would probably take man'ti teo, jonanthan Cooper, sam montgomery, or ezekial ansah.  IF we were to get jonathan cooper and barret jones that would really sure up our line.

[deevo82]

Starting to doubt that Rhodes lasts until the 2nd round.

For the amount of trading we have done, I would prefer more ammunition in next year's draft.

[dawk1977]

Well after looking at hankins, He isn't that bad.  He looks really good.  I would rather take him rather than dion jordan.  I agree with what alot have been saying about him.  He (dion) doesn't seem like a football player. I don't know if I would trade foles though.  I guess if you did, you are going all in with vick.  Than trade the house to get the qb of the future next year.

[dawk1977]

deevo82, on 23 February 2013 - 04:06 AM, said:

Starting to doubt that Rhodes lasts until the 2nd round.

For the amount of trading we have done, I would prefer more ammunition in next year's draft.

IF we are to trade foles, we should at least get a 3rd(2013) and a 3rd (2014).

[natethegreat527]

To go all the way to 20 we need to get a 2014 1st and 2nd rd pkck somewhere along the line

[Asiragusa]

No chance a lot of these picks last to where you have them.  Also, that's a lot of trades...

[RUEagle]

Not knocking you in particular, but we all need to realize that teams are not looking to trade up in this draft.  It is not top heavy at all, and teams would rather have multiple picks in a deep draft then move up for a guy who they can get almost or just as good of a player later on.

[Asiragusa]

RUEagle, on 23 February 2013 - 09:57 AM, said:

Not knocking you in particular, but we all need to realize that teams are not looking to trade up in this draft.  It is not top heavy at all, and teams would rather have multiple picks in a deep draft then move up for a guy who they can get almost or just as good of a player later on.

Exactly...I agree.  Make mocks without draft pick trading and see how much harder it is when you don't have multiple 2nds and 3rds

[RUEagle]

Right.  We're not going to come out of this draft with 3 2nds and 3 3rds like some of these mocks would suggest.  You may have a team move up here and there but my guess is the price won't be as high in years past.

[eagledrew13]

natethegreat527, on 23 February 2013 - 05:30 AM, said:

To go all the way to 20 we need to get a 2014 1st and 2nd rd pkck somewhere along the line

no not at all. Trading from 4 to 20, I'd agree...but 8 to 20 not so much

[eagledrew13]

Asiragusa, on 23 February 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

Exactly...I agree.  Make mocks without draft pick trading and see how much harder it is when you don't have multiple 2nds and 3rds

when was the last time the eagles didn't have multiple trades in the draft. No s*** its harder when you don't acquire extra picks...but that doesn't happen in reality. In reality teams fall for certain players and make moves to take him. In this case we have buffalo jumping over Arizona to ensure they get the top QB in the draft and the bears jumping several teams to get fisher. If the bears wait until 20 to pick, they would most certainly wind up with a much worse OL pick as Joeckel, Fisher and warmack are head and shoulders above the rest. These are trades that most definitely are possible, if not likely.

[eagledrew13]

Asiragusa, on 23 February 2013 - 07:57 AM, said:

No chance a lot of these picks last to where you have them.  Also, that's a lot of trades...

its a very average number of trades for an NFL draft actually...and if you think they won't last to certain spots...it's definitely s possibility, but this is pre combine and we certainly know draft positions change dramatically after that. I used a  mock draft consensus to do this draft. Who in particular do you see not lasting?

[eagledrew13]

dawk1977, on 23 February 2013 - 04:02 AM, said:

Do you really think barret jones makes it to the third? I don't really like hankins in the first.   I don't really want to trade down that far.  But if we did I would probably take man'ti teo, jonanthan Cooper, sam montgomery, or ezekial ansah.  IF we were to get jonathan cooper and barret jones that would really sure up our line.

yes I really do think Jones makes it to the 3rd. I think youre going to see a run of QBs in the top of the 2nd and WRs in the middle to late 2nd. I don't think ansah makes it to 20 and I wouldn't draft both cooper and Jones early..need to much on the defensive side.

[eaglepride]

Way too many trades for a good bottom 1st round draft

[Footballman175]

Teams are not trading up in this draft. Unrealistic trades

[eagledrew13]

Footballman175, on 23 February 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

Teams are not trading up in this draft. Unrealistic trades

we'll see. Teams trade up in EVERY draft.

[Footballman175]

eagledrew13, on 23 February 2013 - 10:05 PM, said:

we'll see. Teams trade up in EVERY draft.

yes, but in this draft the middle to end of the first is where it's at.

[Asiragusa]

Footballman175, on 23 February 2013 - 10:13 PM, said:

yes, but in this draft the middle to end of the first is where it's at.

Exactly.  Mocks should show none to minimal trades

[eagledrew13]

Footballman175, on 23 February 2013 - 10:13 PM, said:

yes, but in this draft the middle to end of the first is where it's at.

Depends on the position and who is picking in front of you like every other draft. In this case there is only 1 QB who is a true standout and 4 of the teams pIcking in the six spots behind us happen to be in the market for a QB. That absolutely is a perfect scenario for a trade up.

Also in this draft there are 2 clear LT while every other OT in this class is likely to at least start their career at RT if they start at all. There is a huge drop off between the 3rd tackle...lane and the 4th tackle, fluker who didn't exactly impress in INDY today.

Those top 3 OTs won't make it anywhere close to 20. In all probability theyre all gone in the top 12. Again an idea trade up situation for a team like CHI who is a decent OL away from being back in the playoffs.

[eagledrew13]

Asiragusa, on 23 February 2013 - 10:18 PM, said:

Exactly.  Mocks should show none to minimal trades

I disagree. There is no 'should' about mock drafts. it is very inoften that a team goes through an entire draft with no movement...especially when there is a a)new coach, b) new GM or c) new owner. For that reason, it is completely illogical to mock an entire draft wIth no movement.

Anyone can say this guys going near the top 5 of each round and put a name next to the pick. That isn't how teams actually view the draft...just how talking heads that get paid for nothing more than pure conjecture view it and discuss it.