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[RUEagle]

So far Cooper very impressive as was Eric Fisher.  Haven't seen Joeckel yet, missed his 40

Fluker has a huge frame and wingspan, seemed a bit stiff though.

[BDAWK_4EVER]

Fluker looked pretty bad in the shuffle drill

[rstarter]

BDAWK_4EVER, on 23 February 2013 - 09:55 AM, said:

Fluker looked pretty bad in the shuffle drill

Physically gifted but man his technique is horrible. Does anyone still think he's a 1st rounder?

[Dirty 30 Sucks]

rstarter, on 23 February 2013 - 10:06 AM, said:

Physically gifted but man his technique is horrible. Does anyone still think he's a 1st rounder?

yeah because if you know the kid is going to work hard than you can fix technique, you cant teach people to run fast or be huge.

[rstarter]

Dirty 30 Sucks, on 23 February 2013 - 10:12 AM, said:

yeah because if you know the kid is going to work hard than you can fix technique, you cant teach people to run fast or be huge.

D30, the ? of whether he'll be a solid player is debatable I'll give you that, but 1st round quality? In the same class as Cooper, Warmack, Fisher, Joeckel, Barrett Jones? I digress.

[RUEagle]

rstarter, on 23 February 2013 - 10:06 AM, said:

Physically gifted but man his technique is horrible. Does anyone still think he's a 1st rounder?

Not sure why but when I watch him he reminds me of Winston Justice.

[Dirty 30 Sucks]

rstarter, on 23 February 2013 - 10:31 AM, said:

D30, the ? of whether he'll be a solid player is debatable I'll give you that, but 1st round quality? In the same class as Cooper, Warmack, Fisher, Joeckel, Barrett Jones? I digress.

if he's late first round, why not? Sometimes you have to take risks on guys that have loads of talent but poor technique. There's a huge difference with a guy that has bad technique but will work on it, and a guy that thinks he's good enough to just get by on athletic ability.

[rstarter]

Dirty 30 Sucks, on 23 February 2013 - 10:32 AM, said:

if he's late first round, why not? Sometimes you have to take risks on guys that have loads of talent but poor technique. There's a huge difference with a guy that has bad technique but will work on it, and a guy that thinks he's good enough to just get by on athletic ability.

In this case if we were talking about good talent but poor technique, we'd be dealing with a tackle that's oozing athletic ability, so much so that it masks their deficiencies in technique. Fluker, unfortunately, doesn't have quick feet and has bad technique. In my opinion I see him going mid 2nd round, and mainly because he went to Bama.

[RUEagle]

Biggest winner of Group 1 to me was Cooper from UNC.  Now Group 2 up..Joeckel and Warmack in this group.

[Dirty 30 Sucks]

rstarter, on 23 February 2013 - 10:44 AM, said:

In this case if we were talking about good talent but poor technique, we'd be dealing with a tackle that's oozing athletic ability, so much so that it masks their deficiencies in technique. Fluker, unfortunately, doesn't have quick feet and has bad technique. In my opinion I see him going mid 2nd round, and mainly because he went to Bama.

ahh okay im basing it off what mayock said about him. I didnt know that Fluker had piss poor feet. In that case hell no.

[rstarter]

The day when we'll have a 300lbs guy run a 4.5 are quickly dawning on us, what with Armstead running a 4.6. Oh lord...

[Dirty 30 Sucks]

Joeckel ran a 5.2 but Lane Johnson just ran a 4.75

[RUEagle]

Still, OL 40 times need to be taken with a grain of salt.

[Dirty 30 Sucks]

RUEagle, on 23 February 2013 - 11:30 AM, said:

Still, OL 40 times need to be taken with a grain of salt.

so should everyone's. A good 40 time just validates whether a fast guy is actually fast to me. Playing fast is a lot more important.

[KingxEagles]

http://www.bleedingg...play-for-eagles

[rstarter]

Not to belabor the point on Fluker you guys, but here's some National Championship highlights of the Alabama o-line.
https://www.youtube....h?v=qf-jzv6zOzk Even a 3rd rounder might be too high.

[RUEagle]

rstarter, on 23 February 2013 - 06:21 PM, said:

Not to belabor the point on Fluker you guys, but here's some National Championship highlights of the Alabama o-line.
https://www.youtube....h?v=qf-jzv6zOzk Even a 3rd rounder might be too high.

No doubt, Flukers combine is dropping him on draft charts.  3rd round might very well be too high.

[SP]

DJ Fluker is a mauler.  He's still going to be picked 20-30, watch.  He is more about overpowering the guy in front of him and he has a ridiculous 36" reach.

[RUEagle]

RB Onterrio McCalebb just unofficially broke CJ2K's 40 yard dash record.  4.21.  Wow...we'll see if it holds up.

[ShakeThatMonkey]

The WRs in this draft class are blazers but they have suspect hands.

I mean, their catching ability is "ok" but not exactly great. But I think that several teams will be satisfied drafting one of the many WRs in this draft.

[evilwaldo]

RUEagle, on 23 February 2013 - 11:30 AM, said:

Still, OL 40 times need to be taken with a grain of salt.

This x100.  When will an Olineman run 40 yards in a game?  There are more important drills.  

I would rather see drills that correspond to screens and pulls for guards.

[evilwaldo]

My bad on Luke.

[BDAWK_4EVER]

evilwaldo, on 24 February 2013 - 06:31 PM, said:

This x100.  When will an Olineman run 40 yards in a game?  There are more important drills.  

I would rather see drills that correspond to screens and pulls for guards.

I think they look at the 10 yard splits for O and D lineman to show their burst off the line or whatever

[KingxEagles]

oh yeah