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[TheUnknownbird]

Ok people, we begged for a new coaching staff, now its here, How do you feel about the moves that are being made so far? Me personally, some moves i'm ok with but some I just dont get it but I guess its better for the team, like the move on gutting the D line, the D line wasnt really a problem, the Db's in my opinion should of been next after getting the Qb situation straight but hey, i'm just a fan, just gotta sit back and see how all this is gonna play out come game time, but still glad that a new HC and staff is here.

[SinCityEaglesFan]

im looking forward to this season.

personally i cant stand waiting another two weeks for free agency. im confident that chip will actually use the players strengths, and will adjust the play calling accordingly.

[deevo82]

The D line is an area where they can shed cap liability. If we have 4-5 year plan, then Patterson and Jenkins would not be around during that time so no issues with cutting them. I think Jenkins got of lightly - I don't think he played well. The fact that Reid chewed him out on the sideline was an indicator something was not right. Cole might be the next candidate to be moved on which is a shame as he was my favourite player.

The only part of the secondary that is a question mark is Nmandi as he is owed a lot of money this yearif he plays. We are trying to negotiate as we have to pay him at least 4 mil no matter what happens. DRC is a FA and does not look likely to come back. Coleman can play special teams. Allen is cheap and may react better to a different system.

[BirdGang45]

How i feel about the new staff.

[dajoka004]

Save for a handful of guys on the team, Chip can cut whomever he wants and I'll be okay with it. New coach, new players. I want those players to be guys that Chip wants. It will take a year or two to get there, but you may as well start now.

[axe_man_trotter]

Lovin it. It's about time we finally had some big changes around here.

Should be an exciting year.

[vic92353]

Long time comin.  

[InfiniteSeriesN]

the staff sucks. and i have yet to see a single good move.

[craigj]

Winning will be a few years off. We are truly rebuilding this year and at least next year. Starting with the Dline was a business decision not a football one. We'll have to watch it all pay out.

I'm interested in Chip's coaching style, how the players react to him, and what they produce on the field from it.
I also want to see who emerges as a locker room leader. This franchise hasn't been a 'team' in a long time. I'd like to see some unity.

[vic92353]

InfiniteSeriesN, on 26 February 2013 - 08:08 AM, said:

the staff sucks. and i have yet to see a single good move.

Another EFFE.  

[mayanh8]

BB went to our coach for advice. What more could you want?

[dmor]

InfiniteSeriesN, on 26 February 2013 - 08:08 AM, said:

the staff sucks. and i have yet to see a single good move.

you suck

[EagleJoe8]

Wasn't fond of the coordinators or the Vick restructure, but not losing sleep over that. As for the rest of the staff, I have no opinion on them right now. Looking forward to seeing how it all unfolds.

[we_gotta_believe]

I think you'll get a better idea after the draft and once camps closes, when we have a good idea of what the depth chart will look like. So far, I'm trying to stay neutral and give him a chance but I have my doubts on the defensive side of the ball.

[TheRealTruth]

I think they may try to see if someone is willing to trade for Aso. They won't resign DRC and they can keep Allen and Coleman as backup/special teams players. The Dline had to be handled first because we needed to clear out guys we knew in no way would contribute in new defense.

[GoEagles614]

I think the negativity stems from a narrow minded or nearsighted approach.

Lets break a couple of things down.

DT Situation:

-Both are in their 30's.
-Patterson may feel fine, but knocking heads isn't going to be the best thing for him.
-Cullen Jenkins, he's older, and I don't think he was a big enough leader for a young team.
-Do you think Mike Patterson and Cullen Jenkins would be effective if the Eagles did run an up-tempo offense?
-Where will either of them be physically in two or more years?
-How much cap space did the Eagles free up, and how will they use it in a DB,OL,DT heavy off season?
-Who will be replacing these guys?
-How wasn't the D-Line a liability, 123 rush yards per game starts up front.
-How would they have produced in the 3-4, and are the more valuable than some of the rookies and free agents of this offseason?

I don't think you can judge these moves until the offseason is over. And maybe even still not until the season is over. If the Eagles don't spend around 1/2 of the cap they have, they're being cheap and those millions don't play on the field.

Each release we see or trade, focus on the positives of the future instead of dwelling on a player that Andy Reid tried to force into a system, move on, and get on the Chip Ship

Someone said they didn't like any moves, which means they like Damatress Bell, and that is shocking.

[NOTW]

we_gotta_believe, on 26 February 2013 - 09:10 AM, said:

I think you'll get a better idea after the draft and once camps closes, when we have a good idea of what the depth chart will look like. So far, I'm trying to stay neutral and give him a chance but I have my doubts on the defensive side of the ball.

Thats how i feel too

[flyerdog]

mayanh8, on 26 February 2013 - 08:41 AM, said:

BB went to our coach for advice. What more could you want?

good point, but to me this speaks to Bill B. excellence as a coach more so than Chip. Bill also consults with Jimmy Johnson and solicits his advice. Bill is smart enough to realize that he doesn't know everything and there is always something more to learn, and that no single person has ALL the answers. He consulted Chip on a specific area, where Chip excels..and he wanted to learn more about it..again a testament to Bellichik's greatness.

[RUEagle]

InfiniteSeriesN, on 26 February 2013 - 08:08 AM, said:

the staff sucks. and i have yet to see a single good move.

We haven't been able to make a move yet you left-winged, pessimistic, tree-hugging trout sniffer.

[MIKESCR]

Just goes to show how bad a position Andy put this team in when he left.

[macgregor]

We begged for a SB. It was the players that begged for a new coaching staff by not putting out the effort for the last one. They'll get a chance to regret that decision when they get their playbooks and when OTAs start. The only thing I'll be disappointed about is if it doesn't work out well in September. Kelly is the guy I wanted first. He's not guaranteed to be successful but I like the logic of the hire.

[downsoufeagleluva]

So far I like the moves.  A Vick cut/giveaway made no sense at this point, so resigning him and making him compete was the right thing to do.  Demetress Bell.....no brainer.  The hires Im mostly okay with.  Not sure how to compare Billy Davis to other options, but Im glad the scheme is being shaken up either way as I wasn't seeing many true four-three teams win Super Bowls lately, and especially not this one when we couldn't evaluate a linebacker to save our lives.  Im not that upset about the DTs, I thought Cullen Jenkins was on the decline (with the rest of the DL not named Cox/Graham) and I was never very high on Mike Patterson to begin with.That being said, I consider these more administrative than coaching decisions, so its still WAY too early to form an opinion of the Kelly era yet.

[InfiniteSeriesN]

RUEagle, on 26 February 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

We haven't been able to make a move yet you left-winged, pessimistic, tree-hugging trout sniffer.

because something like hiring a DC isn't a move?

rube.

[baldawgbites]

InfiniteSeriesN, on 26 February 2013 - 08:08 AM, said:

the staff sucks. and i have yet to see a single good move.

Let me know when you own the team... then I'll care what you think.

[Jspiral]

GoEagles614, on 26 February 2013 - 09:21 AM, said:

I think the negativity stems from a narrow minded or nearsighted approach.

Lets break a couple of things down.

DT Situation:

-Both are in their 30's.
-Patterson may feel fine, but knocking heads isn't going to be the best thing for him.
-Cullen Jenkins, he's older, and I don't think he was a big enough leader for a young team.
-Do you think Mike Patterson and Cullen Jenkins would be effective if the Eagles did run an up-tempo offense?
-Where will either of them be physically in two or more years?
-How much cap space did the Eagles free up, and how will they use it in a DB,OL,DT heavy off season?
-Who will be replacing these guys?
-How wasn't the D-Line a liability, 123 rush yards per game starts up front.
-How would they have produced in the 3-4, and are the more valuable than some of the rookies and free agents of this offseason?

I don't think you can judge these moves until the offseason is over. And maybe even still not until the season is over. If the Eagles don't spend around 1/2 of the cap they have, they're being cheap and those millions don't play on the field.

Each release we see or trade, focus on the positives of the future instead of dwelling on a player that Andy Reid tried to force into a system, move on, and get on the Chip Ship

Someone said they didn't like any moves, which means they like Damatress Bell, and that is shocking.

huh?

[PhillySteaks]

Negativity or the truth? Very thin line...

[Baltus]

Still early to have an opinion,  the moves are intriguing, I wonder what they saw in the tape that made them get rid two DT.

[InfiniteSeriesN]

baldawgbites, on 26 February 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

Let me know when you own the team... then I'll care what you think.

you obviously care enough to respond.

[BDAWK_4EVER]

There have been 2, maybe 3, good moves since the season's end.

1: Firing Reid
2: Hiring Gamble
The possible 3: Hiring Kelly

And then they have the bad move, keeping Vick. A horrible way to kick off the new regime. I can't knock the coordinator hire because not only have I never heard of the guy, but I don't know who would have been better.

The draft will be a defining moment for this group.

[Robbieb77]

the average TATEr will never be satisfied no matter who we bring in