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[WR_please]

I don't get why people do Eagles mock drafts with 7 rounds.  Why would you want to be talking about 7th round picks in February?  Not my style.

Anyway, here it is ladies and gents.

1.  Kansas City Chiefs - Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan

Joeckel is a solid player but he doesn't have the wow of Fisher.  Fisher can knock you off the ball as well as mirror you and he's only going to get better.  Best combination of good right now and upside at the T position.

2.  Jacksonville Jaguars - Dion Jordan, DE/LB, Oregon

There's been talk about how great Dion Jordan would be in the 4-3 under with his ability to rush and cover.  Well, Gus Bradley runs a very similar system and they're desperately in need of a great pass rusher.  

3.  Oakland Raiders - Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida

I'm hesitant to mock Floyd here because I wonder if the Raiders are going to move Houston to the 3-technique and try and get more explosive on the end.  Tough spot for the Raiders because need doesn't match up with BPA.  Can't see them going QB because of their power-running style; they are going to want a guy with a cannon (Bray?  Glennon?) and that guy might be there at the top of the 2nd.

4.  Philadelphia Eagles - Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia

QBs go higher than they're worth.  In my view, Smith is the ideal Chip Kelly QB.  Other than Aaron Rodgers, I see no other NFL QB as perfectly suited from a skill-set perspective for Chip Kelly than Geno.  That's not to say that if the Eagles don't make this pick and go into TC with Vick and Foles as the options that Chip won't go with Foles.  But Geno is the ideal guy and I think Chip jumps on the opportunity.  

5.  Detroit Lions - Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M

I could see this pick being between Joeckel, Milliner, and Lane Johnson.  At this point in time Joeckel is regarded as the best player of the 3 and Detroit has recently taken the BPA.  Gives them a LT for 10 years and allows Reiff to play RT or G, to which he is better suited.

6.  Cleveland Browns - Ziggy Ansah, DE/OLB, BYU

I'm not 100% sold on Ansah as a 3-4 OLB but supposedly NFL teams are.  The Browns are in need of a dynamic pass-rusher and Ansah has the skill to be just that.

7.  Arizona Cardinals - Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma

Arizona runs up to hand in the card on this one.  Johnson is the freakiest OT prospect I've ever seen.  Armstead ran a tick faster but Johnson actually played at a high level in a major conference.  The Cards need OL help desperately and Johnson has earned a top-10 selection.

8.  Buffalo Bills - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee

I can't see Buffalo reaching for a QB with so many other needs.  Patterson lets Stevie Johnson settle into a more comfortable #2 role and gives Fitzpatrick (or the Bills' 2nd round QB) a guy who can makes a 10-yard catch a 50-yard TD.

9.  New York Jets - Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama

Another case of running up to hand in the card.  The new GM is already fed up with Revis (I would be too) and it just so happens Milliner is the BPA.  

10.  Tennessee Titans - Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

Yes, I know about the heart valve concern.  That said, he was cleared to work out and the issue might very well blow over.  The Titans are awful at DT and Star gives them the size/impact combination they need so much.  

11.  San Diego Chargers - Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia

And a collective gasp.  Mike McCoy has always had great deep threats whether it was Steve Smith or Demaryius Thomas.  The Chargers don't have anyone dynamic of offense after letting both Sproles and Jackson leave in free agency.  Austin completely changes that offense.

12.  Miami Dolphins - Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri

Still don't think Werner is worth taking here.  They need a WR but I don't think Allen or Hopkins are worth this spot either.  They go with Richardson, a high motor athlete who can disrupt things in the interior.  

13.  Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State

Shocked a lot of people at the combine and with Eric Wright likely gone, the Bucs have a need at CB.

14.  Carolina Panthers - Kawann Short, DT, Purdue

The Panthers got Kuechly last year but they probably would've been better served drafting Fletcher Cox or Michael Brockers.  This year they stop the madness and finally upgrade at DT.

15.  New Orleans Saints - Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU

New Orleans just changed to a 3-4 and they need a pass rusher.  Mingo is the 2nd most versatile DE/OLB prospect behind Jordan.

16.  St. Louis Rams - Chance Warmack, G, Alabama

With 2 first round pick St. Louis can afford to take an elite guard prospect while still addressing the WR position.  Warmack is considered by many to be the best player in this draft so the Rams get a steal.

17.  Pittsburgh Steelers - Tank Carradine, DE/OLB, Florida State

He came in a little heavy at the combine and he's coming off major surgery.  Then why pick him at 17?  Potential and need.  He was one of the most promising pass rushers in the nation before the injury and after what Welker and Peterson have done you can't doubt there's not the stigma for ACL injuries as there once was.  I think you slot him in behind Harrison and Woodley to start the year and then in 2014 he replaces one of them.  I'd like to mock Jarvis Jones here but with his spinal issues and refusal to work out at the combine, I just can't mock him this high in my first draft.  I wouldn't rule out WR here but DE/OLB is the biggest need and I think Pittsburgh will bite the bullet.

18.  Dallas Cowboys - Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State

I've seen Hankins play live and the kid is the real deal.  The Cowboys need a DT and Hankins is versatile enough to play it any way they want.

19.  New York Giants - Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State

The Giants draft the best pure 4-3 DE in the draft.  They're about to let Osi go and they'll slot Werner right into the #3 role and let him shine.

20.  Chicago Bears - Jonathan Cooper, G, UNC

No matter what happens with Urlacher the #1 goal the Bears had coming into this offseason was improving the offense.  Trestman is a purist and there aren't very many true WCO WRs on the board.  Allen is a little lanky for it and Hopkins is a reach at this point.  They go with the best player available and allow Cutler to actually have a pocket to step into.

21.  Cincinnati Bengals - Keenan Allen, WR, Cal

The Bengals address the Calvin Johnson problem before it becomes too big of a problem.  AJ Green get blanketed all game and the Bengals at times don't have an answer.  Allen has the potential to be a #1 WR in his own right.  The success of Jones/White in Atlanta makes this even more of a possibility.

22.  St. Louis Rams - DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson

Jeff Fisher is pissed Allen is off the board but the Rams get the best WR on the board anyway.

23.  Minnesota Vikings - Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington

Some would say this is a reach, others would say it is a steal.  What isn't questionable is the Vikings' desire for an upgrade at CB and they do so with Trufant.

24.  Indianapolis Colts  - D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama

Winston Justice, as much as the "advanced stats" people would have you believe he doesn't, needs to be upgraded.  Fluker projects better at RT than Watson does so he gets the nod.

25.  Seattle Seahawks - Margus Hunt, DE, SMU

Seattle surprises again.  Hunt is an absolute difference-maker on STs and has the skill set Pete Carroll can take advantage of on defense.  Speed and size triumphs again.

26.  Green Bay Packers - Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas

Green Bay has been trying to replace Nick Collins who can't play anymore due to a freak neck injury.  The best S on the board falls to them and they can't resist.

27.  Houston Texans - Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee

The Texans are tired of not having a #2 WR.  Hunter is going to be dynamic in the league because he's long and wiry.  Finally someone to take the pressure off Andre Johnson.

28.  Denver Broncos - Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama

The Broncos follow the Colts model of constantly loading up for Manning.  Lacy and Hillman will be a dynamic 1-2 punch for the future.

29.  New England Patriots - Matt Elam, S, Florida

The Pats are a team always on the lookout for impact safeties and they were hurting for them last season.  Elam gives the Patriots even more pop and all of a sudden the Pats are one of the hardest hitting defenses in the league.

30.  Atlanta Falcons - Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame

Atlanta is best served getting a starting caliber TE this offseason whether it's in the 1st or not.  Eifert is great value here.

31.  San Francisco 49ers - Datone Jones, DE/DT, UCLA

The Niners go ahead and draft a dynamic 3-4 end who can give them some initial depth and take over in the middle of the year.

32.  Baltimore Ravens - Jarvis Jones, LB, Georgia

Jones goes in the 1st after all.  Baltimore has taken risks on players who fell recently (Cody and Kindle come to mind) and Jones comes right in.  I'd like to mock an ILB here but Te'o is too much of a boy to be a leader of men (and this is a team that is going to lose Ray Lewis and likely Ed Reid in the same offseason) and Minter isn't dynamic enough.  The Ravens get creative and move him all around the defense and he excels.

There you have it.  No Te'o, no Damontre Moore, no Minter, and no QBs outside of Geno.

[Robbieb77]

Really doubt we take a QB now that we are keeping Foles.

[mmm4552]

No thank you.

[ThaPhenom]

Eric Fisher IS NOT better then Luke Joeckel

[kitko60]

I like it.  Geno would mean the end of idiot #7.  I don't see Mingo falling to 15.  If somebody was drafting Jordan it would be because of his freakish workout at the combine however Mingo topped him in every test at the combine and has better tape.  I could see Mingo sneaking into the top 10 and possibly higher for a 3/4 team looking for the next big OLB prospect.  Chance Warmack may fall to16, much like DeCastro last year, and again it would be a steal!

As far as the #1 pick I just keep thinking Reid goes after a big time defender.  Is that big time defender out there?  Floyd could work if he wants to eventually transition to a 4/3.  Milliner and Flowers would make an outstanding CB duo and remember Reid(Lito & Sheldon)(Vincent & Taylor) I am just wondering if he thinks one of these OT is worthy of #1 or not.  He could like Brandon Albert.  He could pull off a trade for Peters.  He could like Jake Long.  Who knows...

[WR_please]

ThaPhenom, on 27 February 2013 - 12:56 PM, said:

Eric Fisher IS NOT better then Luke Joeckel

I didn't say he was.  It's not only about year-1 it's about the future as well.  Fisher and Joeckel are comparable right now and Fisher has way more upside.

[SP]

I think Barkley goes in the 1st round.  Other than that, there's always surprises in the draft so it's nice to see a unique, fresh take- even if some of it strikes you as a bit odd, that's actually more accurate than someone putting up a mock with "safe" picks.

[kitko60]

SP, on 27 February 2013 - 01:55 PM, said:

I think Barkley goes in the 1st round.  Other than that, there's always surprises in the draft so it's nice to see a unique, fresh take- even if some of it strikes you as a bit odd, that's actually more accurate than someone putting up a mock with "safe" picks.

I think he does too!  Christian Ponder went 12th overall!!  QB get reached for every year in the draft.  I wouldn't be surprised if 3 or 4 went in round 1.

[Asiragusa]

I wouldn't like this for the Eagles case but I could see it happening

[NWMontana]

I cant see Chippy passing on geno either..... Scary

[EaglesFanatic14]

I don't think Geno is the best option, BUT it would be really, really, interesting to see how he would play out with the eagles.

[BirdGang45]

Yea i would smoke and drink myself to death.

[Phillysfan898]

Typical geno fan

[WR_please]

Phillysfan898, on 27 February 2013 - 09:39 PM, said:

Typical geno fan

Ha, not really a Geno fan at all but it's hard to deny the guy's talent.  He threw for 73 TDs in 2 seasons.  Pass-first guy with the ability to run who also takes care of the football and protects himself from hits (not that I believe the offense has to be that way but Geno is the Kelly prototype).  Big arm, not spectacular like Vick or McNabb but pretty strong.  Like I implied, this isn't what I want; it's what I believe will happen.  Kelly cares about scoring points.  Geno scores points.

[heavywchamp]

Now that AR is gone I can't imagine we would have any WTF moves like taking Geno with our first pick especially when there are so many other better players that would also fill a need with our 3-4 transition.  Geno makes absolutely zero sense for us.  I still think he takes EJ in the 3rd.  Geno is a pocket passer and better suited for a team with passing attack systems.

[ThaPhenom]

heavywchamp, on 28 February 2013 - 11:54 AM, said:

Now that AR is gone I can't imagine we would have any WTF moves like taking Geno with our first pick especially when there are so many other better players that would also fill a need with our 3-4 transition.  Geno makes absolutely zero sense for us.  I still think he takes EJ in the 3rd.  Geno is a pocket passer and better suited for a team with passing attack systems.

EJ Manuel wont make it to the 3rd... he's a 2nd round pick now

[Asiragusa]

ThaPhenom, on 28 February 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

EJ Manuel wont make it to the 3rd... he's a 2nd round pick now

Especially after a strong combine

[deevo82]

Asiragusa, on 28 February 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

Especially after a strong combine

I agree. Mayock thinks that Barkley and Smith will go in the first round and another QB will sneak in as well, maybe Manuel. Could well be that the 1st pick on day 2 gets traded to a QB needy team if they think the Eagles might pick Manuel.

And before I get flamed, QBs have accelerated value.

[Asiragusa]

I do agree though.  Teams reach for QBs