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[Rodney_Zero]

Dave and fellow ask Dave comrades

we have some glarying holes to look at :

CB- even if Namdi comes back or not do we look into FA for a starter? We have nothing there at all

S- IMO, Colt and Allen should stay

OL- looks like the draft has a lot to offer, or is FA the better option?

LB's (ISLB & OSLB's) I think (?) we have three that can make the transition to a 3-4 (Ryans, Kendricks, Curry and Graham)

DL. two are gone, this is where I think we shop for a NT and  DE in FA

[mjkvol]

I would absolutely look to see what is available in the secondary and offensive line.      I'd love nothing more than to sign a solid OL to free us up to draft for impact if we stay at #4, since the prevailing 'wisdom' is that OL is the 'safe' play there.       Wouldn't want to take any unneeded risk, you know?

I'd look hard at a guy like Paul Kruger, except that the Ravens will probably keep him or he'll be too high priced.

[KingxEagles]

a new hybrid defense with just Rookies is bad.. Eagles need to get to work NOW. 0_0

[BDAWK_4EVER]

Get Gholdson from the Niners if he becomes available. They may use one of their first two picks to get a safety. They still haven't come out and said we're going to a 3-4. It's still all speculation from fans. The whole staff has consistently said "Our personnel will determine our scheme" or something to that effect

[BirdGang45]

Goldson from the 9ers

Kyle Arrinton from the Pats or Cary Williams from the Ravens

Only two moves i would make. Then draft a corner and safety. Draft Dion Jordan also.

Maybe find a DT also.

[DaveSpadaro]

I am guessing here, so take it for what it's worth ... I say the Eagles sign 2-3 guys. Maybe not the huge, big-name players (are there any in free agency?) but a couple of players to come in and fill needs. Who they are, what they are, I don't know. I know the Eagles have a lot of cap room and I know they have some options. Who knows? I am looking forward to seeing how it goes

[kitko60]

Dave, with the rumored love of the TE position by Chip, do you think the Eagles would be involved in trade talks with the Titans about Jared Cook?  Talk about a perfect fit if Chip wants a big TE to stretch the field!  I was upset to hear that he might not free agency due to the Titans liking him so much but it sure seems like he doesn't want to be there.

[KOJO]

mjkvol, on 27 February 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

I'd look hard at a guy like Paul Kruger, except that the Ravens will probably keep him or he'll be too high priced.

I would be wary about him. Basically did nothing for 3 years, then he's in a contract year & didn't really start to light it up until Suggs came back.

[Rodney_Zero]

mjkvol, on 27 February 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

I'd look hard at a guy like Paul Kruger, except that the Ravens will probably keep him or he'll be too high priced.

He should hit the FA market, because the Ravens have to have money for Ellerbee, Reed and Boldin,

[KingxEagles]

thumbs up

[mjkvol]

KOJO, on 28 February 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

I would be wary about him. Basically did nothing for 3 years, then he's in a contract year & didn't really start to light it up until Suggs came back.

You could be right, and the asking price will probably be ridiculous.

[Rodney_Zero]

mjkvol, on 28 February 2013 - 02:55 PM, said:

, and the asking price will probably be ridiculous.

Someone will over pay for him and then think how Bellicheck over paid for his clone

Adailus Thomas

[Dawkins718]

I hope the eagles go after Michael Johnson from the benglas, I think him and cole coming off the edge would cause havoc on defense. And all so i wouldnt be opposed to the eagles taking a hard look at Dashon Goldson  and i know this is a long shot but make a run at Jairus Byrd   we have been waiting for to long to find dawkins replacement and i beileve he would be a great  fit here in philly

[polasek_609]

Rodney_Zero, on 27 February 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

Dave and fellow ask Dave comrades

we have some glarying holes to look at :

CB- even if Namdi comes back or not do we look into FA for a starter? We have nothing there at all

S- IMO, Colt and Allen should stay

OL- looks like the draft has a lot to offer, or is FA the better option?

LB's (ISLB & OSLB's) I think (?) we have three that can make the transition to a 3-4 (Ryans, Kendricks, Curry and Graham)

DL. two are gone, this is where I think we shop for a NT and  DE in FA

CB - Draft DeMarcus Milliner, hopefully we can trade down a few picks and get another pick along with him, but odds are we'll have to draft him high at #4 and make him the 1st CB drafted in the top 5 since '98.

S - there are plenty of capable Safeties in the draft, IF Cyprien falls a bit, then I think he's the pick at #35, but I doubt the 49ers and Patriots will pass on him, if he's not there then I'd say Matt Elam or Eric Ried, preferably Elam. Really though the depth at Saftey in this draft is pretty high, so we COULD wait til the 3rd round to get a Saftey n be fine, if not better off for what we think Kelly wants, but personally, I want a thumper of a Safety and after these guys the depth begins to thin for that.

OL - not a permenant fix and it doesn't help our OL's age, but IF Jake Long goes into FA, then he's the man I want at RT. He would cement our 1st String OLine as possibly the best unit in the league(or we could just resign Jake Scott). If we go with the draft route though, which I think is what we're more likely to do, I would expect us to trade up for D.J. Fluker and that would mean that the S position would still be a hole which would get filled in the 3rd round by Bacarri Rambo, who isn't necessarily the thumper that I want, but he is very good in coverage and takeaways and that is what we think Kelly wants from the defense.

LB - Ryans played great for us last year, and he was a good leader, but he didn't work out exceptionally well for the Texans when they went to a 3-4 and I doubt it'll be any different for us. This could be me buying into the fools gold, as y'all would say, but I think we're pretty well set at LB. Maybe spend a 4th-6th round draft pick on someone for depth, but between Curry, Matthews, Graham, Ryans?, Cole?, & Kendricks, we SHOULD be good at LB.

DLine - This is a position that I just don't know enough about, my guess would be NT in FA, and DE in the draft. I'd like for us to trade up n pick Sam Montgomery late in the 2nd or early in the 3rd. Yes, he placed bets on games, but he wasn't betting on his team to lose, he was betting on his team to win. Personally, I think that shows confidence in his self and his team.

[polasek_609]

Rodney_Zero, on 28 February 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

He should hit the FA market, because the Ravens have to have money for Ellerbee, Reed and Boldin,

Don't forget about Flacco. Ravens have a LOT of big contracts that need to get reworked, so I doubt Kruger will stay.

[f_dallas]

The Eagles can't let their miserable failures in FA past scare them out of participation.  They have gaping holes on the roster and should be actively looking for solutions in the FA and trade markets.

If past disasters simply teach them to be afraid to participate, they should stop drafting, too.

Here's what they have to do in FA: do their job better.  Don't blame Jevon Kearse for being Jevon Kearse.  Don't sign Asante Samuel- a brash, trash talking ball hawk who plays the left side of field and is physically incapable of consistently providing support in run defense- and then endlessly bemoan the fact that Asante sometimes jumps routes, talks trash, refuses to play the right side, and doesn't tackle well.

Stop expecting FAs to be something they are not.  Figure out why they are successful now, figure out what their strengths are, figure out what their weaknesses are, and then commit to being okay with their strengths and weaknesses.  Commit to allowing for those strengths and weaknesses in your scheme.

Asante is actually a great example...he was a fantastic FA signing, performed very well, and did EXACTLY what they should have expected he'd do.  Even in that case, many fans, the coaching staff, and front office weren't satisfied.

FA has a simple solution...Howie, do a better job.  Sign guys who fit.  Don't worry about past failures.

[f_dallas]

Let's not forget...Troy Vincent, John Runyan, Chad Lewis, Carlos Emmons...all free agents.  Hugh Douglas, trade.

Those guys (along with McNabb, Trot, Tra, and Dawk) were the core of this franchise when they were successful.  You have to build through the draft, but FA and trades are a vital part of that construction process.

Perfect players rarely hit FA or are made available in the trade market, but good ones are all the time.  You just have to pick the right ones and be willing to overpay.  Overpaying UFA's is the tax you pay for being ****ty at drafting.

[mjkvol]

f_dallas, on 01 March 2013 - 08:28 AM, said:

The Eagles can't let their miserable failures in FA past scare them out of participation.  They have gaping holes on the roster and should be actively looking for solutions in the FA and trade markets.

If past disasters simply teach them to be afraid to participate, they should stop drafting, too.

Here's what they have to do in FA: do their job better.  Don't blame Jevon Kearse for being Jevon Kearse.  Don't sign Asante Samuel- a brash, trash talking ball hawk who plays the left side of field and is physically incapable of consistently providing support in run defense- and then endlessly bemoan the fact that Asante sometimes jumps routes, talks trash, refuses to play the right side, and doesn't tackle well.

Stop expecting FAs to be something they are not.  Figure out why they are successful now, figure out what their strengths are, figure out what their weaknesses are, and then commit to being okay with their strengths and weaknesses.  Commit to allowing for those strengths and weaknesses in your scheme.

Asante is actually a great example...he was a fantastic FA signing, performed very well, and did EXACTLY what they should have expected he'd do.  Even in that case, many fans, the coaching staff, and front office weren't satisfied.

FA has a simple solution...Howie, do a better job.  Sign guys who fit.  Don't worry about past failures.

I'll boil your excellent post down to five words:

DO ... NOT ... BE ... ANDY ... REID.

Do that, and we automatically give ourselves at least a chance to be great before any moves are even made.

[E v 2.0]

I'm not really interested in bringing in many vets.

Just draft well and let them sink or swim.

If Vick is really going to be the QB this season then the team is going to suck anyway. Just get young and let then all grow together. By year two they could be back in contention.

[mjkvol]

E v 2.0, on 01 March 2013 - 10:41 AM, said:

I'm not really interested in bringing in many vets.

Just draft well and let them sink or swim.

If Vick is really going to be the QB this season then the team is going to suck anyway. Just get young and let then all grow together. By year two they could be back in contention.

To me, it's all about making progress this year, establishing schemes, and getting to 2014.

I hear and see people getting worked up about this year (not you), and I have to wonder what they're looking at.      This franchise was left in a shambles, and it's going to be a 2-3 year process at the minimum to clean the mess up and right the ship.       I want them out of here, but if guys like Vick and Asomugha fill spots and get us through this eason, then what's the big deal?       Amazingly, there are people who have deluded themselves into thinking this team is close as it is.

[CT Eagle]

mjkvol, on 01 March 2013 - 08:53 AM, said:

ANDY ... REID.

You keep bringing him up MJ.  I thought you wanted to move on !

[Rodney_Zero]

If you have a defensive system in place with good DC and assistants, you find guys in FA that firthe puzzle.

Example: Steelers, ben running the 3-4 since 1982, and they draft LB's to groom them to be starters, they also will find FA's (cost wise) and UDFA's that fit their scheme

Drafted : Greg Loyd, Carloss Emmons, Jason gildon, Joey Porter, L. Woodly, Timmons, Nickerson, Mike Merriweather, Levon Kirkland, Chad Brown, and I know there's more

FA's- James Farrior, James Harrison, Kevin Greene

They then add DE's in the later RD's, and target NT's

You could say,  they have D Lebeau, but there where other DC's under Cowher other than Lebeau too:

Capers
Haslett
Robinson

[mjkvol]

CT Eagle, on 01 March 2013 - 02:04 PM, said:

You keep bringing him up MJ.  I thought you wanted to move on !

Let's not start, CT.

It's a fact that he was here for the better part of an entire generation, and it will take a bit of time to get his remains completely out of the system.      That's all I'm going to say on it, so continue if you feel the need.

[badmeetsevil]

f_dallas, on 01 March 2013 - 08:28 AM, said:

The Eagles can't let their miserable failures in FA past scare them out of participation.  They have gaping holes on the roster and should be actively looking for solutions in the FA and trade markets.

If past disasters simply teach them to be afraid to participate, they should stop drafting, too.

Here's what they have to do in FA: do their job better.  Don't blame Jevon Kearse for being Jevon Kearse.  Don't sign Asante Samuel- a brash, trash talking ball hawk who plays the left side of field and is physically incapable of consistently providing support in run defense- and then endlessly bemoan the fact that Asante sometimes jumps routes, talks trash, refuses to play the right side, and doesn't tackle well.

Stop expecting FAs to be something they are not.  Figure out why they are successful now, figure out what their strengths are, figure out what their weaknesses are, and then commit to being okay with their strengths and weaknesses.  Commit to allowing for those strengths and weaknesses in your scheme.

Asante is actually a great example...he was a fantastic FA signing, performed very well, and did EXACTLY what they should have expected he'd do.  Even in that case, many fans, the coaching staff, and front office weren't satisfied.

FA has a simple solution...Howie, do a better job.  Sign guys who fit.  Don't worry about past failures.

This is a great post. FA isn't evil. You just have to be smart about it. Just like you can be bad at drafting, you can also bring in the wrong (even if talented) mix of guys through FA.

From just looking at the team, considering the #4 pick and all the possibilities that brings (including trading down), plus the cap room this is a GM's dream scenario. Yes tons of areas to improve and no long term solution at QB but then again that is why a GM is a GM and paid as one. They have all the tools here at this disposal (money and picks) and even an owner who does spend money. Now is the time to prove that these guys are worth their titles and salaries.

[CT Eagle]

f_dallas, on 01 March 2013 - 08:28 AM, said:

The Eagles can't let their miserable failures in FA past scare them out of participation.  They have gaping holes on the roster and should be actively looking for solutions in the FA and trade markets.

Yes and no.  The Eagles are rebuilding.  They don't have a QB for the future.  I am hopeful the team will be competitive and exciting, but realistically, there is a low ceiling this year and maybe next.  There is no reason to make a splash (Kearse, Nnamdi, TO) because there are so many holes to fill.