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Oakland Raiders filed relocation papers to move to Las Vegas; NFL to vote

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7 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

But you're not a Raiders fan, so that's logical that you wouldn't go out of your way for it. As an Eagles fan though, if it was the Las Vegas Eagles, you might feel differently. Like I said, my oldest brother has already told me that he'll definitely go out there for at least one game. His best friend from our childhood neighborhood lives out there, and the two of them haven't seen each other for at least 15 years. Maybe longer. So they've already set plans to meet up out there and go to a Raiders game.

Of course, his friend isn't a Raiders fan, he's a Steelers fan.

Maybe that is my issue I hate the Raiders lol. That also kinda helps my point with what you said. How many raiders fans that live in California can afford to drive to Las Vegas every week if they had season tickets and how many would be willing too? I'm sure a lot of the fan base will be pissed and not even bother with them at all anymore. I'm sure there is plenty of raiders fans in Vegas. It's tough to say at this point... is vegas even a football town? I'm interested in seeing it play out though

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Just now, bwestbrook36 said:

Maybe that is my issue I hate the Raiders lol. That also kinda helps my point with what you said. How many raiders fans that live in California can afford to drive to Las Vegas every week if they had season tickets and how many would be willing too? I'm sure a lot of the fan base will be pissed and not even bother with them at all anymore. I'm sure there is plenty of raiders fans in Vegas. It's tough to say at this point... is vegas even a football town? I'm interested in seeing it play out though

Vegas already has a good sized Raiders fanbase from what I've been told by people that live there (or nearby), as does Phoenix and various other nearby cities.

While the owners want the seats full, the NFL isn't a 'Stadium experience' sport anymore. With the entertainment state of the art being where it is, location is really kind of secondary. It's not like it was 30 years (or longer) ago. I grew up just outside of D.C. and became an Eagles fan in 1976 (when I was about 7).

Between 1976 and about 1984 when my father bought a big satellite dish for the house, I had to live on MNF halftime highlights or the couple of times that the Eagles were actually on TV... and if that happened to be at the same time as a Redskins game, I was often times stuck watching on a 13" black and white. Today of course, all of the games can be seen from anywhere in the country.

I loved that big satellite dish in the 80's though. I was finally able to watch every single Eagles game (no subscriptions to be able watch back then), and the games were commercial free. During commercials we could hear the announcers talking to producers and each other as well as reviewing instant replays that they'd show when the commercials were over. Not to mention the free Playboy channel (and the harder channels that I wasn't supposed to know about... :whistle: )

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Just now, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Vegas already has a good sized Raiders fanbase from what I've been told by people that live there (or nearby), as does Phoenix and various other nearby cities.

While the owners want the seats full, the NFL isn't a 'Stadium experience' sport anymore. With the entertainment state of the art being where it is, location is really kind of secondary. It's not like it was 30 years (or longer) ago. I grew up just outside of D.C. and became an Eagles fan in 1976 (when I was about 7).

Between 1976 and about 1984 when my father bought a big satellite dish for the house, I had to live on MNF halftime highlights or the couple of times that the Eagles were actually on TV... and if that happened to be at the same time as a Redskins game, I was often times stuck watching on a 13" black and white. Today of course, all of the games can be seen from anywhere in the country.

I loved that big satellite dish in the 80's though. I was finally able to watch every single Eagles game (no subscriptions to be able watch back then), and the games were commercial free. During commercials we could hear the announcers talking to producers and each other as well as reviewing instant replays that they'd show when the commercials were over. Not to mention the free Playboy channel (and the harder channels that I wasn't supposed to know about... :whistle: )

Lol, I miss the daring days of trying to watch a scrambled spice channel lol. I'm sure there is a good following out there but, peoples perception is very skewed.  I work in retail what people see or think is never close to reality haha. I genuinely do like the debate though lol. I'm still not sold on the idea yet . 

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3 hours ago, bwestbrook36 said:

I'm going to vegas on weds. If there was football there I would absolutely want nothing to do with it. 

That doesn't mean other people would not want to go

Would be really cool if they had a casino in the stadium - although I don't know if the NFL would go for that

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7 minutes ago, bwestbrook36 said:

Lol, I miss the daring days of trying to watch a scrambled spice channel lol. I'm sure there is a good following out there but, peoples perception is very skewed.  I work in retail what people see or think is never close to reality haha. I genuinely do like the debate though lol. I'm still not sold on the idea yet . 

In the D.C. area in the early 80's, there was an over the air pay channel named "SuperTV", and it was scrambled. The adult stuff started at 11 PM through 2 AM or something like that. Playing with the antenna and the knobs would almost make it watchable lol.

 

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4 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

In the D.C. area in the early 80's, there was an over the air pay channel named "SuperTV", and it was scrambled. The adult stuff started at 11 PM through 2 AM or something like that. Playing with the antenna and the knobs would almost make it watchable lol.

 

Lol!!! Those were the days of the good old cable splicer where you could rip time Warner off for all the channels for free haha

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5 hours ago, Procus said:

People that live in Vegas.  And there are many tourists who would love to see an NFL game while on vacation.

And yes, there are many families who live in Vegas.  There is a lot more to Las Vegas than the Strip. 

A far cry from 10+ years ago when NBC wasn't even allowed to promote its fictional Las Vegas drama series on Sunday Night Football, I believe in part because the NFL was fearful of religious groups threatening the NFL with boycotts and other things (that really would be for their own gains in most cases).

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We got a football team! 

Pretty sweet. Long time coming. Stadium is going to be dope, though Im not a fan of the public paying for it. 

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2 hours ago, bwestbrook36 said:

If they happen to be playing on an already planned trip then sure. I wouldn't want to go to vegas just because of a game though. I'm within 5 hrs of like 10 stadiums so I can already do that. I'm going to vegas to do things I can't do here. That's my point of view on it. 

Other then legal prostitution what cant you do here that you can do there?

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Just now, Pallidrone said:

Other then legal prostitution what cant you do here that you can do there?

Watch the blue man group duh

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9 hours ago, Procus said:

Why would any team owner in their right mind choose Oakland over Vegas.  This move will be good for the entire league if it happens.

I'd be interested to see how their home games are split as far as home/visitor fans are concerned. I'd imagine that a good share of LV fans are either visiting or already have teams that they root for.

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26 minutes ago, CarrbageTime said:

I'd be interested to see how their home games are split as far as home/visitor fans are concerned. I'd imagine that a good share of LV fans are either visiting or already have teams that they root for.

That is my thought process. So does anyone actually spend money on the home team?

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19 minutes ago, bwestbrook36 said:

That is my thought process. So does anyone actually spend money on the home team?

Same thing every year in Miami.  Try going to a Jets game, an Eagles game, a Giant game, Steeler game, Bears game - it's a home game for the visiting team.  Will likely be that way, at least for a while, in LA as well.

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1 hour ago, Pallidrone said:

Other then legal prostitution what cant you do here that you can do there?

Walk across the Hoover Dam, into Arizona, and back.

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23 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Walk across the Hoover Dam, into Arizona, and back.

See now you guys get it lol

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45 minutes ago, bwestbrook36 said:

See now you guys get it lol

I went to Vegas a few years back and did that (Hoover Dam tour). I wasn't there on a Sunday, but had I been, and if there'd been an NFL team there and a good game to attend, I may well have gone.

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10 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I went to Vegas a few years back and did that (Hoover Dam tour). I wasn't there on a Sunday, but had I been, and if there'd been an NFL team there and a good game to attend, I may well have gone.

I might go shoot some grenade launchers and see a show lol

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Las Vegas Raiders just feels right, I think it will go down as one of the better team relocations ever.

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15 hours ago, Procus said:

That doesn't mean other people would not want to go

Would be really cool if they had a casino in the stadium - although I don't know if the NFL would go for that

Probably not, but I can imagine boxing matches taking place there, should also make a GREAT Super Bowl site.

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17 hours ago, Captain F said:

I personally CAN NOT WAIT for the first time the Eagles play in VEGAS! That is going to be balls out crazy.  That will become party central, and take over as the largest tailgating place in the NFL. 

Mark your calendar for 2021

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I wonder how much tickets are gonna be, probably astronomical.  I also wonder if they would put them in there packages like they do with everything else out there that would be cool. 

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NFL is going to get a lot of money from the Vegas move. They'll still show a commercial after everything and not lower SNT though lol

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23 hours ago, Procus said:

I never heard anybody say that.

Do you know the difference between Vegas and Jacksonville, between Vegas and Oakland, between Vegas and every other city in the U.S.?

In 1994 when they announced the 2 expansion teams starting in the 1995 season they gave Carolina one of the franchises but then they gave the 2nd franchise to the city of Jacksonville, and told Baltimore to spend their money and build a new museum. Paul T. thought that would be better then in Baltimore.

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I love the move. LA is already going to be saturated with football with the Chargers (Still don't get that move) and the Rams in the same city. NFL isn't as highly touted in LA like it used to be with the Rams and Raiders. Oakland's move will ensure they get a good crowd every home game. Tourists will want to go for a game and to stay. Homebodies have already done the Vegas gambling schtick, so you have those fans. Then you have California fans who would drive through the desert to get to Vegas. It's really not that far. Not to mention fans (both Raiders and other teams) from other states who would go to Vegas anyways. Why not throw a game in there to.

Hard to see the team not get the 24 votes. It works out for the Raiders, Vegas and the NFL as a whole. That's a butt load of revenue.

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1 hour ago, bwestbrook36 said:

I wonder how much tickets are gonna be, probably astronomical.  I also wonder if they would put them in there packages like they do with everything else out there that would be cool. 

The people who have the money or have saved up for the trip would do it. I plan on going to Vegas someday. Gambling and an Eagles/Raiders game to start a 4-5 day trip? Hell yeah.

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