Iron_Eagle_04

Think we can all agree Saints and Pats would have been more interesting. Payton and Brees might have had a bad game but were not going to be the lightweights in the super bowl McVay and Goff were. If I wasn't so pissed over Sean Payton being a jack*** earlier this year in the eagles game may have pulled for them.

Its almost comical how Bellichick continues to embarrass the rest of the league every year.

Bellichick not only wins, he unleashes bad head coaches on the rest of the league he has tricked teams into thinking are good. Flores is the latest that may hold the Dolphins back for years.

One of the worst performances in Super Bowl history. Cam Newton in the loss to the Broncos only recent comparable bed soil for sure.

Hell I would to if he won me six Super Bowls.

Honestly didn't mind seeing a team win with defense after years of shootouts.

Only good thing about this result is I don't have to listen to the media cream themselves about the Super Bowl winner not going to the White House. Kraft pretty much proclaimed Trump his brother by another mother.

Held out little hope the Rams would pull it out. Pretty well knew Goff wasn't ready for the big stage.

Well we learned tonight Jared Goff sucks. The Seahawks and Falcons handed the Patriots a second dynasty, and they overpowered the Rams to cement it. And the Eagles win looks a little more special. And the Pats can win with defense.

1. Since icing the kicker merely involves taking a legal timeout, I don't see how you can legitimately make a rule against it. A team can take a legal timeout for almost any reason. Sure its annoying and it rarely even works, but I don't see a feasible way to really make a rule against it. 2. The only problem with this is, it would basically encourage every single defender on a long pass to practically rape a receiver to keep him from catching it, as obviously a fifteen yard penalty would be preferable to a 30 yard pass completion or more from the defense's point of view. In a sense you are almost awarding them for a penalty. Yes it seems like a freebie and sort of a cheap gain, but its probably the only way to go given the above argument. I think a more feasible way to alleviate the effects of these freebies is to modify the rules for what constitutes pass interference. For example I think pass interference should never be called if a ball is uncatchable, but it should merely be holding a five yard penalty and possibly a new set of downs. Also I wouldn't be opposed to at least limiting the effects of penalties that don't even effect a play. For instance a 40 yard run or pass play shouldn't be negated by a hold or a block that happened on the other side of the field. Five yards off the end of the run would be plenty in that instance. Just seems to flimsy to negate a long gain for something that didn't even effect the play, I think back constantly to Super Bowl 15 and that Jaworski TD pass that got called back on that flimsy illegal motion penalty on Carmichael. In my opinion it totally obliterated any chance the Eagles had at seizing momentum that game and may well have altered the outcome. 3. This is an interesting point, I never really thought of it. But since the motivation of intentional grounding is throwing it away to avoid a sack, and spiking a ball to merely stop the clock, it makes them seem like different beasts. Still you make a fair point. Not sure how I feel about it, probably something to at least give some thought to for sure though. 4. Again interesting point I'm not sure how I feel about. I think it depends on what the penalty is. I don't know if I would agree with every single offensive penalty bringing a loss of down. Some of them are to flimsy in my opinion. Maybe offensive face masks or pass interference but not some of the others.

In the wake of the Saints non call fiasco, I just couldn't help but think about how if coaches can challenge spots, catches, or fumbles, why not penalties too? As we saw in the other day's games, penalties and bad calls can change the outcome of a game. this could very well eliminate a lot of ghost holding calls, bad pass interference calls. Of course, there should be limits on it. Obviously you don't want every play challenged. But it seems to me that some options for teams who are the victims of bad calls or non calls should be available. What do you guys think?

It would be a damned eerie karma if you believe Spygate was a big deal.

Ain't sure this one was Reid's fault. He mostly kept the offense churning. Defense just couldn't stop Brady.

Nah, it really just ruins football. Its literally inconceivable this happens year after year. And nobody has figured out how to stop these guys.

Chiefs gain some momentum then shoot themselves in the foot. twelve yard loss on the punt and false start penalty.