Northern Green Wings

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    Dak reportedly turns down $30 million a year, wants $40 million

    Dallas is in a bad situation regardless of which side of the fence you are on. While I don't think that much of Dak as a QB, I do know that QBs, even above average ones, are not readily available in the league. It's much easier to do A LOT worse than what they have in Prescott. Letting him go they will be a worse team for it, unless they can swing a deal for a better QB. Except to get a better QB you're just moving assets around, so are you really improving as a team? I'd rank Prescott in the middle of he pack of the league, somewhere between 14-20th overall. Any team that holds a QB as a top 10 guy is NOT getting rid of them. Any team that has a QB comparable to Prescott is in the same boat, a younger guy who they are hoping gets better. So no matter what side of the fence you look at, getting rid of Prescott would make the Cowboys a worse off team. The problem comes from how much money are they going to tie into him. All QBs get paid in the NFL, it's just a simple fact. It's not the dollar value that cripples the team. Literally every team in the league faces the same high % of a cap going to the QB. It goes back to how good the QB is. And I think this is the concern. At the moment, Dak is not an elite QB. But he is definitely better than a good chunk of other QBs in the league, and just as important, Dallas finally has a good roster that can make a playoff push. Letting him go now undoes everything else. Prescott knows this and is leveraging it for a larger contract. This is the part that is killing Dallas, as I felt their offer of 30 million was more than fair as it puts him of one of the top paid guys as it is amongst his peers. I think Dallas can afford the 30~ million a year to Dak without drastically effecting their roster. I think going any higher though and it will have repercussions. If they didn't have talent all around, they'd probably play a lot more hardball with Dak or let him walk since they wouldn't be competing anyways. But Dak knows they won't let him walk no matter what, there isn't another QB available on the market better than him. This situation in itself isn't really unique as pretty much every NFL team goes through it. What is different is how 3 of their best 5 offensive players are all asking for new deals at the same time. I think they can easily pay all those guys, but they have some defensive players coming up that need to get paid to. And Dallas is MUCH more a defensive team than they are offensive. At the end of it all, in my opinion, someones feelings is going to get hurt and a good player will probably walk.
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    Zeke Set To Hold Out Of Training Camp?

    I don't think the Zeke and Bell situation are similar at all. If anything.. Zeke holding out now is him trying to prevent what happened to Bell. Zeke is under contract, albeit his rookie deal. It's making him a healthy amount of money and he obviously wants more, but at this stage I'm sure it's more about length/guarantees. Bell was franchise tagged... and then was fined money for something he didn't even sign. There was no agreement or a contract... he didn't agree to anything. That would be a much worse situation to be in.
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    Giants WR Golden Tate appealing 4 game suspension

    Short of a kings ransom, Agholor's best value is to stay on this team. It will probably lead to a difficult decision next off-season, but I'd rather deal with that then letting talent go on this team for a draft pick. This team is loaded through and through and poised for another run. And a bit more on topic, I don't think the Giants win many games with Golden Tate, so I don't see this suspension completely crippling them, they were already two feet in the grave to begin with.
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    Sources: Saints, WR Thomas reach $100M deal

    The Eagles do with Cox/Wentz/Lane Johnson if you consider right tackle separate from tackle, and then Ertz is the 6th highest for good measure. I don't think it's the case of paying a player high, but more so paying a player their worth. Cox is the second best DT in the league behind Donald. Lane Johnson is arguably the best RT in the league. Wentz remains to be seen, but certainly the season he was healthy he was a top 5 QB, and at the moment he is borderline top 10.. health depends a lot with him. Ertz was a top 3 TE last season. Prescott I don't think is in the top half of NFL QBs, or if he is, he is just at that line. Cooper is really tough to say. But with guys like Michael Thomas, OBJ, Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, DeAndre Hopkins, those guys are all clearly a level above him. Then a guy like Sammy Watkins is making 16 million~ on average, and I see no way Cooper gets less than that. Cooper has been good, never great, the above mentioned guys have all been great and for multiple seasons, with Julio also looking for a new deal. So I'd say the Cowboys are in a tough spot.
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    Goodell, title game officials to face questions on ‘no-call’

    I realize this isn't all Saints fans, but regardless they have now taken over the crown for whiniest crybabies there is.
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    Sources: Saints, WR Thomas reach $100M deal

    Cooper will get less money than Thomas, but would of been probably much less if they got a deal done sooner. I don't think Cooper is worth it for them.. but at the same time Prescott started to look like a better QB when he came in, so who knows. The reality is that offense goes as Zeke goes. He's a top 5, top 3 RB in the league, right up there with Gurley and Bell. Cooper and Dak are not top 5, and probably aren't even top 10 players at their position either. Unfortunately, it's been proven you don't need elite RB talent to win, and they tend to wear down throughout their careers. Also it doesn't help that Elliot has off field troubles. Cowboys are in a tough place, but I think the worst move they could of done is what they are doing now, which is nothing so I'm all for that. I know a few on these boards were totally against signing Wentz early and wanted him to play out this season first. I think at the end of the next off-season Wentz's deal is going to look like we have him for a bargain.
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    Tyreek Hill not to be suspended

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001036260/article/nfl-will-not-suspend-chiefs-receiver-tyreek-hill Good news for Chiefs fans I guess, but with Hill and these allegations I'd definitely say there is enough smoke for there to be fire. I think it is likely he'll find himself in trouble again. But it's also funny to me, if you're a good enough player a team will let you get away with more. I'm not condoning what Kareem Hunt did, but what he got instantly released by the Chiefs for, as opposed to holding onto Hill is interesting. Hill was drafted with known serious character issues, but since he produces at an elite level and is a WR they'll hold onto him (and perhaps lack of real evidence.) In the case of Hunt being a top RB but not a game changer, he's released the day of without a second thought.
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    Giants WR Golden Tate appealing 4 game suspension

    These appeals almost never work, no matter how much you feel bad for Tate if what he said above is true. However he seemed very forthcoming and reported himself. If that is also true, I do feel the NFL should reduce (not remove) the suspension. Otherwise what value is there of having a player come forward. He would of been better off not saying anything and hope he didn't get tested then, or it be out of his system already when he does get tested. It would actually be more advantageous to him to not say anything.
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    People sleeping on the Packers and Rodgers or is his run over?

    The Packers run as others have stated has been over the past couple seasons. Part of it is Rodgers inability to stay healthy, similar to what we have seen with Wentz (but with no capable back-up QB.) The other bigger part is just surrounding Rodgers with capable talent. They just don't have it, and even worse, they make little effort to get more. You sort of wonder where that franchise would be if after Favre left they didn't have Aaron Rodgers fall to them in the draft. For a team that has a great QB like Rodgers they have done little to surround him with talent and go out and get guys. While not everyone you add in free agency is going to work out for your club and sometimes being frugal can have it's benefits (look at Washington), GB has been the opposite of that doing little to nothing.
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    Tyreek Hill not to be suspended

    Agreed. I feel that needs to be a part of all the discipline action that they hand down. If guys aren't getting in trouble by the law, then they shouldn't be suspended. OR Regardless of the law, a player needs to conduct himself to a certain standard and if not they will have some action against them. As it stands right now it appears the league makes up it's own rules when they hand down punishments. Personally while subjective, I'd like to see players get more punishments handed down to them. To the outside world looking in the NFL looks like a league of thugs at times. Only way to start cracking down on that more and more is holding their players more accountable; even if it causes loss of revenue. Otherwise players aren't going to smarten up. And likewise, they need someone else other than Cris Carter suggesting there be a fall guy and do a better job educating the young players about the NFL. I realize that this is already happening, but clearly it's not working overly well.
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    Tyreek Hill not to be suspended

    I'm not entirely sure they would. If it wasn't Hill, but a 5th string WR the guy would of been sent packing long ago. That's one side of it, the better of a player you are the more leniancy your team will afford you. Then for reasons I don't entirely agree with, such as below: The league has set a terrible example in the past of how they handle these cases. If you ask the non Eagles fan in me whether Zeke should of been suspended or not I would of said no as there was no evidence, yet he was for a length of time. Likewise with Ray Rice or Hunt, until those videos went public the league did diddly squat. So in this case I am surprised they decided to do nothing this go around, when previous evidence has suggested they take some action to show they are protecting the image. I'm sure there will be new language in this regard when the current CBA expires.
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    Rank your top 5 coaches in the NFL Today

    I like this list, outside of maybe Payton but that has much to do with just him irritating me than anything. I think with the above coaches you've watched them consistently deliver results with their teams being competitive year in and year out. Basically, the body of work is there that you can safely say the coaches are the ones making the team and I think with guys like Pederson, McVay have argument to be on this list as well. But in that same breath, they have less seasons to judge them by. And in both their cases.. outside of their first season, both their teams have been stacked and been playoff and superbowl favs entering the season. In the case of Pederson, he overcome some adversity due to major injuries at the QB position and other spots and still performed, so I would definitely put him above McVay, not to mention the superbowl title. But I'd also like to see what he can do coaching wise when the talent on the team isn't stacked at nearly every position. Even more so for McVay. Pederson has shown he can handle adversity, I don't think you can say the same with McVay.
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    Daks Agent wants $34m per year

    Absolutely. And more importantly it should be fully guaranteed!
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    Daks Agent wants $34m per year

    This was a big part of the reason why I was happy that Wentz got his deal done early. I believe that Wentz is the best between Goff and Prescott. The risk with Wentz is a health one but talent wise I don't think you'll find people arguing too much. If Goff or Prescott had their deals done first, then Wentz and his agent would be using the "he's the better QB of the three therefore he deserves more." And honestly their contracts would come in pretty close to the deal Wentz has right now anyways. Then in a couple year, or maybe even after next seasons, guys like Watson and Mahomes will be cashing in on their deals, and this will look like a bargain in comparison.
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    Your top guys at each position.

    Pretty solid list. I think at this point as much as it pains me to say it, I would take Brady over Montana. At defensive tackle I think a guy like Aaron Donald might end up being the number one choice when his career is over, but still too early to say. I also thought of Charles Woodson first over Rod. While Sanders was the best cover CB ever, I felt Woodson was the most complete CB to ever play. Coverage, blitz, make tackles, make plays, he's up there. It just becomes tough to judge CBs since Charles played in a more pass happy and pass friendly league than guys like Rod/Deion did. It's going to be even harder for CBs to stick out now going further imo.
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    Giants agree to trade WR Odell Beckham Jr to Browns

    I felt this is the type of trade they should of made before signing him to a long term deal so they didn't have to eat into the cap. I feel the Browns come out ahead with this one big time. They're getting a top WR and not having to pay him top dollar since a huge chunk of that is with the Giants now. As for the Giants I guess they can swallow the cap hit since they aren't competing now. Time will tell, but if this move puts the Browns in the playoffs next season it has to be seen as a win for them. They've been bad for so long. For the Giants however simply being average or good isn't enough. This move expedites their rebuild process. Time will tell how it works out. I do know they need a Manning replacement asap so they don't waste the best years of Barkley.
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    Robert Kraft Arrested....

    Jim Irsay was fined 500k and suspended 6 games (whatever that means for the owner lol) back in 2014 for his drunken driving. I'm guessing something similar for Kraft and that'll be the end of it.
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    Robert Kraft Arrested....

    What he did was illegal, how severe it is is up probably very opinion based person to person. But at the end of the day it doesn't change that it was illegal. And whether we believe it to be a big deal or not, it will be treated as one in the media. Personally I think he is incredibly dumb, he's too rich to use cheap services like that. Out of the 32 owners, I'm sure the majority of them have been with paid escorts at some point in their lives and careers, probably a few of them with some right now. Kraft just got caught. I guess you don't get super rich by constantly paying for high quality talent lol, maybe that was his thinking.
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    Ravens trading Joe Flacco to Broncos for 4th rd pick

    Well there goes one destination for a potential Foles trade. I guess they didn't like their odds of landing him if he walked in free agency either.
  20. Oh geez. That.. is not a good look for Goff at all haha. Some of it is easy for us to say as fans on why do that after the fact, not knowing the play-call and read progression. You can find that true of any QB in the league. I think what is evident though is he was looking for the big play too often and he had plenty of guys open underneath on easy passes. I still think he is a good QB and will only get better. Hopefully the shock from the Superbowl and how he played doesn't carry forward for him in his career.
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    How long will Jared Goff be the Rams’ quarterback?

    Reaching the superbowl in his third year and in the second year with McVay.. yeah he is not going anywhere. If one thing is clear, it's that he is most dangerous when there is a good running attack to go with him. The Rams offense dropped off when Gurley was unable to play, although they were also never able to really replicate the production that Cooper Kupp gave them either. I see it as more likely that they extend him sooner rather than later.
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    Was Super Bowl LIII Fixed?

    I never once thought there was a fix. I thought the game was actually pretty well officiated all things considered. Only questionable call was a unnecessary roughness penalty on the Rams on a screen pass. It was weird, if that was a pass play that was 15 yards down the field I see them calling it all through this season. But the ball travelled like 5 yards in the air and the defender was right beside him as he caught it, not sure he lined him up or anything, the guy made a move to turn into him and he was already basically standing there. The Rams just stunk. Unless Goff was paid off to throw wildly inaccurate passes and miss his open guys, I can't see how you can look at that game and call it fixed. The Patriots also played pretty poorly all things considered, being only able to get chunk plays here and there but only string together 3 scoring drives despite having the ball what felt the entire game was also a poor showing.
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    Should teams be able to challenge penalties or non calls?

    It's not as bad as it's being made out here, but it does slow down the game. Basically when a team doesn't like the result of the play (almost always offense) they'll challenge the call and most of the time it gets corrected in the offensive teams favour. That being said, I have been at a game where to the letter of the rule, a pass interference should of been called. However, it was pretty ticky tacky at most so the refs let it stand as called on the field, which was no pass interference. I think it can work but the verbage needs to be correct. Something in that if a pass interference wasn't called live during the play, that during the review process you have to determine that the pass interference directly interfered with the pass catcher being able to make a play/catch the ball. That way you can't get awarded massive yards because a ref decided to let go some arm fighting between guys that really didn't have an effect on catching the ball.
  24. There's lots that go into winning the superbowl besides the game itself. The journey to get there is a long one and involves many aspects. Wentz was league MVP prior to injury and a huge part on why we got home field advantage. Home field goes a long way in helping a team to win games in the playoffs. Do we still reach the superbowl if we had to play Minnesota at the Dome instead? Maybe considering the way the game played out, but the odds would definitely be less. And likewise, do we still reach the superbowl with Wentz at helm? Possibly, Foles didn't have a good game against the Falcons and we won thanks to tremendous defensive effort, and against Minnesota as good as he played, our defense also stepped up huge. Do we win the Superbowl with Wentz instead of Foles? Also possible, but its hard to envision Wentz having the same or a better game than what Foles did. To me this is why it's a team achievement and should be looked at as such. Too many cogs to look at it strictly at an individual level, although I realize that goes against popular opinion when it comes to QBs.
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    Keeping the Old Proven Guy Over The Young Buck

    I think in hindsight, the Colts made the right call to move on from Peyton. When he left the team, they werne't in a position to compete. Instead they now have their QB for the next 10~ seasons and can worry about building around him. In the case of the Packers, they also made the right move from Favre. I don't think they win a Superbowl with Favre at helm that season, and likewise, now they had their QB to be their guy for the next 10~ seasons. In the case of the Patriots, it may still be too early to say but I think they also made the right choice. Brady up to that point had won them multiple superbowls compared to Peyton and Favre for their respective franchises. Luck was a generational pick, Rodgers was a great pick, Garapollo was a later draft pick who showed some flashes here and there and... that was it. And then further to that, Brady wasn't coming off of any sort of serious injury like Manning was. Favre was a gunslinger who was still playing ok, but his mentally just doesn't work in todays NFL.