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Specter is an embarassment to the Senate. Maybe we should be looking into his Comcast ties, seems to be the most likely reason for him to go after the NFL. Wish he presented the same vigor for working on solutions with the economy, the war and the outragious gas prices. These seem to be more pressing concerns than whether or not the NFL should have destroyed tapes of a coach's signals.
Or maybe you can educate yourself.

http://specter.senate.gov/public/

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Or maybe you can educate yourself.

http://specter.senate.gov/public/

Dude, I know all about Specter, I don't need to read that crap to know what kind of guy he is. He is a JOKE and he is one of the biggest abusers of pork barrel politics in our time. Do me a favor, take your own advice and educate yourself... Sheep lead to slaughter... so sad.

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I don't care a bit about the PAST... or trying to get any past retribution or anything like that.

If the Patriots cheated and Fixed games for the past 8 years, they belong OUT OF THE LEAGUE.

Let them keep their trophies and rings... and petition the CFL.

Think about it people? If a Police officer went out and hid a camera in a PUBLIC Place and filmed a Mac Machine.. ( PUBLIC PLACE) and filmed transactions involving cards and PIN numbers ( Private parties.. private companies) ... And they caught him with 8 years of tapes of this..

WOULD HE HAVE A JOB?

If a College student went to Yale or Penn for 3 years and the Dean of students found 3 years of tapes from several professors whereby the student got all the answers... WOULD THE KID Be given a degree?

No way.. He'd be shown the door.. WHICH IS EXACTLY what should happen to the New England Franchise.

Thanks for playing. Congratulations on your success. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

SPECTER is 175% Dead on about this entire issue..

Did Pete Rose continue to manage the Reds? Did the NBA let the referee continue to WORK for the league? THE ENTIRE matter so far has been absurd.

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The Patriots really took a Vermont Teddy Bear sized poop in their own dinner.

Spygate will be over and done with, but every player/ coach/ associate, on that team will spend the rest of their lives answering questions about cheating.

The Patriots came so close to being like the 72 Dolphins, closer than any team will ever be.

Now, instead of being asked to talk about being a dynasty, winning SB's, and breaking regular season records,

they will be asked to talk about cheating.

The 3 Super Bowl W's and the undefeated regular season won't matter anymore, because now the general public will just remember them for cheating.

Sen Specter really talked out of both ends. Comcast is a huge contributer to his office. Comcast was supposed to get the 8 prime time game package to launch their sports channel known as the VS. network.

But the NFL wanted to force Comcast to put NFL Network on their system and charge them for it too. So the NFL, like a spoiled rich kid, took all its deal off the table, and kept the games for themselves.

This has been devastating to Comcasts plans to promote the VS network. Think about what it would have meant financially for them to air 8 Prime Time NFL games, instead they just do the NHL playoffs, and re-runs of Ultimate Fighter.

Comcast would like to stick it back to the NFL, and it turns out Sen Specter is willing to go to bat for them.

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Honestly, I think most people are tired of hearing about it. However, regardless of Specter's motivation, his push for investigation has turned up more evidence than would have turned up if he didn't.

I think of it this way, the commissioner played a dangerous game by trying to downplay the signifigance of what was going on and by not revealing everything he knew about the situation. All of a sudden we had tapes from as far back from 2001 and the commissioner said that they learned nothing they did not know. It was news to most people I think that the Patriots were cheating that far back. The commissioner also said that Matt Walsh didnt have anything new to say during his interview. A few hours later, all of a sudden, we have a torrent of new information coming from Walsh about the extent of the operations.

The commissioner really botched his handling of this, because now it does look like he was trying to cover it up. Before people were simply suspicious, but now its pretty much undeniable that the commish was taking a lets try and make it go away approach.

At the end of the day, the Patriots legacy is now permanently damaged. Bill Bellichecks reputation has been smeared. If what Matt Walsh is saying is true, then it implicates Tom Brady in the sense that he was aware the Patriots were videotaping the signals.

The only thing I hope that comes out of this is a harsh penalty for Bellicheck.

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I like to see him use his skill on the gas problems and Iraq. Stay out of the NFL!

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I don't care a bit about the PAST... or trying to get any past retribution or anything like that.

If the Patriots cheated and Fixed games for the past 8 years, they belong OUT OF THE LEAGUE.

Let them keep their trophies and rings... and petition the CFL.

Think about it people? If a Police officer went out and hid a camera in a PUBLIC Place and filmed a Mac Machine.. ( PUBLIC PLACE) and filmed transactions involving cards and PIN numbers ( Private parties.. private companies) ... And they caught him with 8 years of tapes of this..

WOULD HE HAVE A JOB?

If a College student went to Yale or Penn for 3 years and the Dean of students found 3 years of tapes from several professors whereby the student got all the answers... WOULD THE KID Be given a degree?

No way.. He'd be shown the door.. WHICH IS EXACTLY what should happen to the New England Franchise.

Thanks for playing. Congratulations on your success. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

SPECTER is 175% Dead on about this entire issue..

Did Pete Rose continue to manage the Reds? Did the NBA let the referee continue to WORK for the league? THE ENTIRE matter so far has been absurd.

Good points but the points you listed are illeagal under the Laws of the United States except for the Rose and referee points, but they were handle by their commissioner. Goodell made his ruling. The Spector should respect it and move on. Spygate didn't break any local, state or federal Laws.

So you have to make points where no Laws were broken and someone got kicked out of their sport by a noncommissioner of thier league. Probably none.

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Good points but the points you listed are illeagal under the Laws of the United States except for the Rose and referee points, but they were handle by their commissioner. Goodell made his ruling. The Spector should respect it and move on. Spygate didn't break any local, state or federal Laws.

So you have to make points where no Laws were broken and someone got kicked out of their sport by a noncommissioner or thier league. Probably none.

He's been on this kick for months now about trying to get the entire New England franchise expelled from the league. It'll not only never happen, but the idea will never even be flirted with.

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He's been on this kick for months now about trying to get the entire New England franchise expelled from the league. It'll not only never happen, but the idea will never even be flirted with.

True....

Look at baseball even after the investigation found player guilty....still no records taken away, no player banned. What will an spygate investigation do? The fans who think the Patriots won their SB by cheating will still believe that. Patriots will still be a team in the NFL, Bill will still be the coach, Nothing will change. The same results the baseball steriod investigation change the players who got caught. (except for the Only the ones that lied) Nothing. But tax money being waisted.

If baseball investgation didn't ban or suspend a player how is a spygate investigation going to ban or suspend a team or coach?

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True....

Look at baseball even after the investigation found player guilty....still no records taken away, no player banned. What will an spygate investigation do? The fans who think the Patriots won their SB by cheating will still believe that. Patriots will still be a team in the NFL, Bill will still be the coach, Nothing will change. The same results the baseball steriod investigation change the players who got caught. (except for the Only the ones that lied) Nothing. But tax money being waisted.

If baseball investgation didn't ban or suspend a player how is a spygate investigation going to ban or suspend a team or coach?

Well stated.

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y arent we happy that justice still has a chance to be delivered by the hands of arlen specter?

The only thing that'll be delivered by the hand of Specter has nothing to do with football in any way.

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True....

Look at baseball even after the investigation found player guilty....still no records taken away, no player banned. What will an spygate investigation do? The fans who think the Patriots won their SB by cheating will still believe that. Patriots will still be a team in the NFL, Bill will still be the coach, Nothing will change. The same results the baseball steriod investigation change the players who got caught. (except for the Only the ones that lied) Nothing. But tax money being waisted.

If baseball investgation didn't ban or suspend a player how is a spygate investigation going to ban or suspend a team or coach?

Congress does regulate things that involve a lot less money than pro football. But I agree, I'd much much rather see affordable healthcare more than regulated NFL football, but still, it's a shame. It's really sad that we're so used to a lack of integrity in sports, that we'll just accept when the rules get broken, even if it's had a huge impact on the parts of the game that we care the most about. The only thing I can say is that the BALCO investigations, at least put them under the spotlight, and disgraced the players involved -- even guys that I used to respect, like McGwire and Palmeiro. They will probably still make it to the HoF, just like Bonds will too, but with that disgrace, it's harder to say that they got away with anything now. I just hope that I don't see the day when we forget, and they talk about how much a hitter Barry Bonds was, than Hank Aaron or Babe Ruth.

Belichick and the Patriots deserve the same disgrace. Belichick is no Bill Walsh -- he might not even be Bill Cowher or Andy Reid -- Brady is very good but no Joe Montana, and the Patriots are no dynasty team.

(sarcasm on) Props again to the Pats for getting away with it. Maybe the Eagles and other NFL teams will follow their example. (sarcasm off)

From Specter's statement...

Belichick was lying when he said that he thought he was doing nothing wrong (as if we hadn't guessed):

Patriots personnel instructed Walsh to use a "cover story” if anyone questioned him about the filming.

For example, if asked why the Patriots had an extra camera filming, he was instructed to say that he was filming "tight shots” of a particular player or players or that he was filming highlights.

If asked why he was not filming the play on the field, he was instructed to say that he was filming the down marker.

The red light indicating when his camera was rolling was broken.

During at least one game, the January 27, 2002 AFC Championship game, Walsh was specifically instructed not to wear anything displaying a Patriots logo. Walsh indicated he turned the Patriots sweatshirt he was wearing at the time inside-out. Walsh was also given a generic credential instead of one that identified him as team personnel.

These efforts to conceal the filming demonstrate the Patriots knew they were violating NFL rules.

and yes, the cheating was very effective at helping the Pats win ballgames:

II. THE VIDEOTAPING HAD A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE GAME

(1) The filming enabled the Patriots coaching staff to anticipate the defensive plays called by the opposing team. According to Walsh, he first filmed an opponents’ signals during the August 20, 2000 pre-season game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. After Walsh filmed a game, he would provide the tape for Ernie Adams, a coaching assistant for the Patriots, who would match the signals with the plays.

Walsh was told by a former offensive player that a few days before the September 11, 2000 regular season game against Tampa Bay, he (the offensive player) was called into a meeting with Adams, Bill Belichick and Charlie Weis, then the offensive coordinator for the Patriots, during which it was explained how the Patriots would make use of the tapes. The offensive player would memorize the signals and then watch for Tampa Bay’s defensive calls during the game. He would then pass the plays along to Weis, who would give instructions to the quarterback on the field. This process enabled the Patriots to go to a "no-huddle” offensive, which would lock in the defense the opposing team had called from the sideline, preventing the defense from making any adjustments. When Walsh asked whether the tape he had filmed was helpful, the offensive player said it had enabled the team to anticipate 75 percent of the plays being called by the opposing team

For the full text of Specter's statement:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...0805084/?page=1

The NFL would probably say that 0.7M fine to the coach and the team, along with a draft pick, is enough. I really don't believe that's nearly enough. A one-year suspension for Belichick would've been a better statement, but we won't see that.

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Specter is a media hore. Period. He takes on issues like this so he doesn't have to address any real issues. He should drop dead.

I see you were just too lazy to look at his site. You are ignorant and should be hung by your toes.

Washington, D.C.

Friday, May 16, 2008 -

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and Ranking Member Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) Thursday sent a letter to Attorney General Michael Mukasey asking him to provide the Judiciary Committee with information about how he is mediating disputes between the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), as reported May 10 in The Washington Post.

The ATF was brought under the jurisdiction of the Department of Justice under the Homeland Security Act of 2002, which was passed after the September 11 terrorist attacks to streamline efforts to protect national security. According to the Post report, the FBI and ATF are duplicating programs to identify and combat domestic terrorist threats and other domestic criminal matters. The Leahy-Specter letter to Mukasey asks the Attorney General to inform the Committee "of the full extent of the disputes between the FBI and the ATF and the steps” the Department is "taking to resolve these continuing turf battles.” The letter also asks the Attorney General to advise the Committee of any measures the Department of Justice is "implementing to ensure that resources are not wasted on duplicative programs administered by the two agencies.”

Washington, D.C.

Friday, May 16, 2008 -

U.S. Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA), Ranking Member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, today issued the following statement in response to a U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) study released yesterday entitled "Credit and Debit Cards: Federal Entities Are Taking Actions to Limit Their Interchange Fees, but Additional Revenue Collection Cost Savings May Exist.” Senators Specter, Herb Kohl (D-WI), and Thomas Carper (D-DE) requested the study last year:

Washington, D.C.

Thursday, May 15, 2008 -

U.S. Senator Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) today voted to support the Conference Report to H.R. 2419, The Farm, Nutrition, and Bioenergy Act of 2007, also known as the 2007 Farm Bill. The Farm Bill, which received final passage from the Senate by a vote of 81-15, was last renewed in 2002 and covers a wide range of programs including commodity price and income support, agricultural conservation, farm credit, research, rural development, and domestic food programs.

Tuesday, May 13, 2008 -

A bipartisan group of Senators today introduced key legislation to reauthorize the lifesaving Bulletproof Vest Partnership Grant Program, a competitive grant program administered by the Department of Justice that provides matching funds to state and local law enforcement officers to purchase bulletproof and stab-resistant vests. Identical legislation was also introduced today in the House of Representatives.

Washington, D.C.

Thursday, May 8, 2008 -

In advance of tonight’s meeting between the 811 families affected by the OPFM/Image Masters, Inc. bankruptcy, U.S. Senators Bob Casey (D-PA) and Arlen Specter (R-PA) and Congressman Tim Holden (D-PA) today released the following statement praising Michelle Weaver, Mike Hartz and Teresa Lord who played a key role in advocating on behalf of the families:

Washington, D.C.

Wednesday, May 7, 2008 -

U.S. Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA), Ranking Member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Senator Joseph Lieberman (I-CT), Chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and U.S. Representative Peter King (R-NY), Ranking Member of the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Homeland Security, today announced the introduction of the Free Speech Protection Act of 2008. This bill would protect American journalists from libel suits brought in foreign courts that do not have the same protections for free speech that are found in the U.S. constitution. It mirrors H.R. 5814, legislation recently introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives by Representative King.

Wednesday, May 7, 2008 -

U.S. Senators Bob Casey (D-PA) and Arlen Specter (R-PA) and Congressman Tim Holden (D-PA) today sent a letter commending Fulton Mortgage Company’s work on a proposal that would provide affordable and reasonable mortgage refinancing options to the 811 families throughout Central and Eastern Pennsylvania who were defrauded by a mortgage Ponzi scheme.

That is just the start.

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I see you were just too lazy to look at his site. You are ignorant and should be hung by your toes.

Washington, D.C.

Friday, May 16, 2008 -

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and Ranking Member Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) Thursday sent a letter to Attorney General Michael Mukasey asking him to provide the Judiciary Committee with information about how he is mediating disputes between the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), as reported May 10 in The Washington Post.

The ATF was brought under the jurisdiction of the Department of Justice under the Homeland Security Act of 2002, which was passed after the September 11 terrorist attacks to streamline efforts to protect national security. According to the Post report, the FBI and ATF are duplicating programs to identify and combat domestic terrorist threats and other domestic criminal matters. The Leahy-Specter letter to Mukasey asks the Attorney General to inform the Committee "of the full extent of the disputes between the FBI and the ATF and the steps” the Department is "taking to resolve these continuing turf battles.” The letter also asks the Attorney General to advise the Committee of any measures the Department of Justice is "implementing to ensure that resources are not wasted on duplicative programs administered by the two agencies.”

Washington, D.C.

Friday, May 16, 2008 -

U.S. Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA), Ranking Member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, today issued the following statement in response to a U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) study released yesterday entitled "Credit and Debit Cards: Federal Entities Are Taking Actions to Limit Their Interchange Fees, but Additional Revenue Collection Cost Savings May Exist.” Senators Specter, Herb Kohl (D-WI), and Thomas Carper (D-DE) requested the study last year:

Washington, D.C.

Thursday, May 15, 2008 -

U.S. Senator Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) today voted to support the Conference Report to H.R. 2419, The Farm, Nutrition, and Bioenergy Act of 2007, also known as the 2007 Farm Bill. The Farm Bill, which received final passage from the Senate by a vote of 81-15, was last renewed in 2002 and covers a wide range of programs including commodity price and income support, agricultural conservation, farm credit, research, rural development, and domestic food programs.

Tuesday, May 13, 2008 -

A bipartisan group of Senators today introduced key legislation to reauthorize the lifesaving Bulletproof Vest Partnership Grant Program, a competitive grant program administered by the Department of Justice that provides matching funds to state and local law enforcement officers to purchase bulletproof and stab-resistant vests. Identical legislation was also introduced today in the House of Representatives.

Washington, D.C.

Thursday, May 8, 2008 -

In advance of tonight’s meeting between the 811 families affected by the OPFM/Image Masters, Inc. bankruptcy, U.S. Senators Bob Casey (D-PA) and Arlen Specter (R-PA) and Congressman Tim Holden (D-PA) today released the following statement praising Michelle Weaver, Mike Hartz and Teresa Lord who played a key role in advocating on behalf of the families:

Washington, D.C.

Wednesday, May 7, 2008 -

U.S. Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA), Ranking Member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Senator Joseph Lieberman (I-CT), Chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and U.S. Representative Peter King (R-NY), Ranking Member of the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Homeland Security, today announced the introduction of the Free Speech Protection Act of 2008. This bill would protect American journalists from libel suits brought in foreign courts that do not have the same protections for free speech that are found in the U.S. constitution. It mirrors H.R. 5814, legislation recently introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives by Representative King.

Wednesday, May 7, 2008 -

U.S. Senators Bob Casey (D-PA) and Arlen Specter (R-PA) and Congressman Tim Holden (D-PA) today sent a letter commending Fulton Mortgage Company’s work on a proposal that would provide affordable and reasonable mortgage refinancing options to the 811 families throughout Central and Eastern Pennsylvania who were defrauded by a mortgage Ponzi scheme.

That is just the start.

Wow, he sent a few letters, cast a vote, patted somebody on the back yada yada yada. Yeah, all very rivoting stuff. He really takes on some important issues doesn't he. Someone should talk to his press people about the whole 811 thingy.

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Washington, D.C.

Monday, May 5, 2008 -

U.S. Senator Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) filed two amendments to the Federal Aviation Administration Reauthorization Act which is currently being considered by the Senate. The amendments seek to reduce overflights over Delaware County and delays caused by flight over-scheduling at Philadelphia International Airport. Senator Specter investigated both of these issues at a field hearing he convened in Philadelphia on Friday, April 25th.

Washington, D.C.

Monday, May 5, 2008 -

U.S. Senators Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) and Bob Casey (D-Pa.) today announced that the Department of Defense budget is expected to authorize $22.9 million in federal funding for Letterkenny Army Depot in Chambersburg, Pennsylvania. The Senate Armed Services Committee completed mark up of the Fiscal Year 2009 authorization bill for the Department of Defense on Thursday. It is anticipated that when the Committee reports its legislation today to the full Senate, $22.9 million will be authorized for military construction at Letterkenny Army Depot.

Washington, D.C.

Thursday, May 1, 2008 -

U.S. Senators Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) and Bob Casey (D-Pa.) today announced that the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) is awarding $9,480,000 in grants to several communities in Pennsylvania. The funding is administered through the Brownfield Economic Development Initiative (BEDI), a competitive grant program to stimulate and promote economic and community development. BEDI is designed to assist cities with the redevelopment of abandoned, idled and underused industrial and commercial facilities where expansion and redevelopment is burdened by environmental contamination.

Washington, D.C.

Thursday, May 1, 2008 -

U.S. Senators Arlen Specter (R-PA), Ranking Member of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) today introduced a bill that would authorize federal funding for the Community Safety Initiative (CSI), a program of the Local Initiatives Support Corporation (LISC) that brings together community development organizations, local law enforcement, and other partners to revitalize troubled neighborhoods. This bill would establish a consistent funding structure for the CSI, helping this innovative program as it seeks other sources of financial support.

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Wow, he sent a few letters, cast a vote, patted somebody on the back yada yada yada. Yeah, all very rivoting stuff. He really takes on some important issues doesn't he. Someone should talk to his press people about the whole 811 thingy.

That is just the month of may. Not even listed....the nfl.

I would bet $1,000,000 he has done more just in may then you have your whole life. Want to take that bet? I'll even lower it to $.50 so you can afford it.

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That is just the month of may. Not even listed....the nfl.

I would bet $1,000,000 he has done more just in may then you have your whole life. Want to take that bet? I'll even lower it to $.50 so you can afford it.

:roll: What are you Specter's girlfriend or just his Friday night peice of arse? Now pipe down junior and get back to mopping the floors or I'll hand you your head.

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:roll: What are you Specter's girlfriend or just his Friday night peice of arse? Now pipe down junior and get back to mopping the floors or I'll hand you your head.

It's all a matter of perspective. If you were in need and Specter was in a position to help, and decided to do so, I think you would very impressed with the man. He is a politician and nobody is denying that.

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I feel Specter and Spygate has done its job already on the Patriots. Basically we thought these guys were football gods before this fiasco but now now theres always gonna be questions about their dynasty's (if you can call it that) legitimacy.

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I personally think the whole thing reaks of cover up. And it sucks

fuuckin a. i'm tired of everyone on ESPN sayin that "well, everyone cheats... this has been goin on for years".. well it shouldnt be and with the right measures it could definitely be stopped. And apparently not everyone does it because some respected former players have shown signs of outrage. crap like spygate destroys the integrity of the game and i dont think its being taken serious enough.

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:roll: What are you Specter's girlfriend or just his Friday night peice of arse? Now pipe down junior and get back to mopping the floors or I'll hand you your head.

You want to neg rep me because you are an idiot? Boy, just goes to show uneducated, uninformed, and ignorant some Philly fans are.

If you are going to say something then atleast tell the freaking truth. You said he has nothing better to do and should be handling other things. I just showed you what he does and now you can't except that the NFL is nothing to what is actually on his plate.

If you are bad enough to hand my my head, I am man enough to kick you in the nuts.

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You want to neg rep me because you are an idiot? Boy, just goes to show uneducated, uninformed, and ignorant some Philly fans are.

If you are going to say something then atleast tell the freaking truth. You said he has nothing better to do and should be handling other things. I just showed you what he does and now you can't except that the NFL is nothing to what is actually on his plate.

If you are bad enough to hand my my head, I am man enough to kick you in the nuts.

Doesn't sound very manly Nancy. Neg Rep? Who are you 35 cent, all gangsta and shizzit? Zip it ya 14 year old.

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How about this?

Drop the whole thing....

Congress doesn't wanna pursue it....Specter seems like he's got a personal agenda...The NFL made their decision, spoke with who they needed to talk to, the Patriots knew the rules, broke the rules, got caught, tried to cover it up, and they got punished....

Can we move on from this?

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