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Ummm... okay?

Perhaps what you're getting at is that my terminology is wrong? If so, I stated it the way the plaintiff did in the suit against the Redskins.

http://www.businessi...ademarks-2014-6

What they are getting at is that a single entity, which represents 30% of Native Americans, continually challenged the name. they are not saying they did a survey and it came back saying 30% found it offensive. It simply relates to the one group and its size.

Comparing this statement to the "questionable" survey you brought up is apples and oranges. There is no comparability.

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Ummm... okay?

Perhaps what you're getting at is that my terminology is wrong? If so, I stated it the way the plaintiff did in the suit against the Redskins.

http://www.businessi...ademarks-2014-6

what he means is because a single entity that objects is 30% of the population, the actual % is greater than 30. So you saying 70% is inaccurate

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what he means is because a single entity that objects is 30% of the population, the actual % is greater than 30. So you saying 70% is inaccurate

Yeah, I realize now what he was saying. I just haven't responded because, quite frankly, I'm embarrassed with myself. I now think that the 30% I used did not come from the NCAI, as claimed. Frankly, I don't know how Amanda Blackhorse and Co. came up with that percentage. The reason I said that it came from the NCAI was because mayanh8 said so, and without doing any research I just assumed it was true. So, with that egregious error, I will give you the win. I still think you and any others on the pro-name change side are wrong, but I lost this debate.

Congratulations.

Unless... mayanh8 somehow proves that the 30% I used is in fact from the NCAI? With the losing error nullified, I would live to debate another day. :-)

Don't use business insider as a source. It is not a reputable site.

Well, I mean, I could have used a number of other links that all said the same thing, but you're probably right.

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The Washington Redskins aren’t the only NFL team whose name bothers some Native Americans.

The Kansas City Chiefs should also change their name to avoid giving offense, according to Amanda Blackhorse, the lead plaintiff in the case that the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office just decided against the Redskins.

“I’m not sure there’s anything the [Chiefs] can do at this point other than look for another name,” Blackhorse told the Kansas City Star. “They could be the team that says, ‘You know what? We understand the issue and we don’t want to be Dan Snyder and fight this in court forever. We want to do the right thing and move forward and avoid this entire battle.’ I’m sure fans will be upset, but still, that’s doing the right thing. If they want to be sensitive to Native American people, that’s the thing to do.”

Blackhorse’s sister, Kristy Blackhorse, is part of a group of Native Americans in Arizona who plan to protest at two Cardinals games this season — not only when the Redskins come to town in October, but also when the Chiefs come to town in December.

There are fundamental differences between the Chiefs and the Redskins, especially that dictionaries define “chief” as a term of respect and “redskin” as a slur. The Kansas City Chiefs have kept a low profile during the debate, hoping that they can continue to use their team name without the controversy that has swirled around the Redskins. If Blackhorse has her way, the Chiefs won’t avoid controversy for long.

http://profootballta...nge-their-name/

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Some people need to find hobbies.

I figured someone would bring up the Chiefs, but honestly how offensive can that name be? Not to mention that name is a title for the head man in some tribes.

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I don't know how I missed this, but The Mayor has increased his street cred

Mayor of FedEx Field Turns On Redskins!

The most notorious fan in Redskins Nation says he's about ready to turn in his "fan card."

The diehard known only as The Mayor of FedEx Field posted an amazing rant on the team-owned message board, ExtremeSkins, yesterday. The Mayor said the final straw came when he was handcuffed and detained by Prince George's County police at Sunday's Skins game for trying to sell a $35 parking pass for $10.

The Mayor claimed that while he was cuffed and forced to lie on "cold, wet pavement" in the rain, the cops told him repeatedly that they were only enforcing an anti-scalping ordinance because they'd been hired by Redskins management to do so.

The thread containing the allegations has been removed from public view from the message board. Redskins spokesman Tony Wyllie says the team does hire P.G. police, but is unaware of any crackdown on scalping. "We pay for Prince George's County police to enforce public safety," says Wyllie. "That's it."

If the Mayor really does flee, that's a big blow to an already wounded fan base. If you've caught his act, you know there's nobody like the Mayor. He and his party posse, who call themselves the Dead Tree Crew, have been featured in HBO documentaries about fan behavior

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Its an old article, but still funny

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Its an old article, but still funny

It did say 2008, my fault. :lol:

Just the fact that you were able to still find it, is funny as hell.

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It did say 2008, my fault. :lol:

Just the fact that you were able to still find it, is funny as hell.

Eh, I'm doing some obsessive "point and laugh" at the r-words right now and came across that. Started with me reading an old thread from 2006 on another board that is just.... just awesome, then I got to that. :roll:

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So Redskins fans tend to blame Mara for the cap penalty imposed on them for trying to take advantage of the uncapped year. I was reading an article from 2006 and it said that his dad, before he died, had this impression of Dan Snyder shortly after he bought the Rwords.

The late Mara once told me, when asked if he had ever met Snyder: "Yes, we've met. I wouldn't use the word charming with him, but he's been fine." Mara continued, "I don't agree with a lot of what he has done, and I don't want to get specific about what I don't like. He is entitled to do what he wants because he paid $800 million for the team. A lot of us old fogeys wish we had made as much money as he has at that age. But I wonder if he is the type of person who will only look out for himself, instead of the well-being of the entire league."

TIFWIW, I just found it interesting. Oh, and f Snyder.

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Personally I think there's some merit to the idea that Mara targeted the Redskins. Not that the 'skins didn't deserve some punishment but I suspect Mara had a large part in determining how much of a penalty. The Cowboys penalty didn't make a lot of sense to me, as other teams had done similar to what they did, and the fact that only 2 teams in the NFC east were punished is odd.

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Personally I think there's some merit to the idea that Mara targeted the Redskins. Not that the 'skins didn't deserve some punishment but I suspect Mara had a large part in determining how much of a penalty. The Cowboys penalty didn't make a lot of sense to me, as other teams had done similar to what they did, and the fact that only 2 teams in the NFC east were punished is odd.

Why do you think the punishment was deserved? It was an uncapped year, there were no rules, per the CBA. And the contracts were approved, per the league. Punishing the Redskins and Cowboys after getting the NFLPA to agree to not sue for collusion shows they did nothing wrong. Most Skins fans blame Mara because he was a part of the competition committee that pursued this, and his "spirit of the cap" BS comment. Not to mention, pushing to get draft picks taken away from division rivals. He's a pretty classless POS in my book.

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I worked in China and regularly ran into people that would not hire people from a certain area because their area was considered lazy but would hire people from a different area because they were considered hard working.

I worked a lot overseas and saw this on a regular basis.

It is not racism, it is cultural differences. Cultures view others differently. If you were to call it racism everyone in the world would be racists. Everyone.

LOL. (Coming from someone living in Korea btw)

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Saw this on another board:

Two weeks after the Redskins hired political blogger Ben Tribbett to help defend the team's controversial name, Tribbett announced late Monday that he will resign. So reports washingtonpost.com. Tribbett wrote the Virginia political blog "Not Larry Sabato," where he broke the story of Redskins executive Bruce Allen's brother, former Virgina Senator George Allen referring to one of his opponent's campaign volunteers as a "macaca" in 2006. On Monday, Indian Country Today Media Network posted several Tweets by Tribbett from a casino in 2010 in which he uses derogatory terms to describe an interaction with a Native American.

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Saw this on another board:

:roll: :roll:

Are The R-Words nothing but a bumbling organization at this point? :roll:

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More stories of the R-Words shooting themselves in the foot.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/20/tribe-refuses-bribe-money-from-washington-foundation/

Tribe refuses “bribe money” from Washington foundation

Posted by Mike Florio on July 20, 2014, 12:14 AM EDT

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It’s a story that has been percolating for a few days. Now that the Associated Press has picked it up, the latest P.R. embarrassment regarding the Washington team name has become official.

A Native American tribe on the Arizona-California border trying to raise $250,000 for a skate park has refused funding from the Original Americans Foundation, a group started earlier this year by owner Daniel Snyder in response to ongoing opposition to a name regarded by many as a slur.

“No, we’re not going to accept any kind of monetary offer to side with allowing them to utilize the inappropriate name for this NFL team,” Quechan tribal President Keeny Escalanti Sr. told the AP.

“The sacrifice we took to say no wasn’t an easy one. We wish we could help the kids today by taking the partnership. We’re trying to teach our community and the youth that we can do things the right way. We don’t have to accept this type of money from these people.”

Previously, the Arizona Republic explained that the tribe turned down a “blank check” from the foundation at a meeting attended by Original Americans Foundation executive director Gary Edwards and director Karl Schreiber.

“He said he was a proud Redskin and had been a proud Redskin since he was a child,” Escalanti told the Republic regarding Edwards. And it got even more uncomfortable than that.

“Edwards just brought up key words that you just don’t bring up in Indian country, like assimilation, annihilation,” Escalanti said. “And he tried to talk down about White people, saying they’re the oppressor. . . . I don’t know what he thought he was doing in talking like that to us — impress us? Like he thought he could talk like that among his ­fellow Natives? It was so awkward.”

Thus, the tribe rejected an offer to pay for the entire park, issuing the following statement to the Republic: “We will not align ourselves with an organization to ­simply become a statistic in their fight for name acceptance in ­Native communities. . . . We know bribe money when we see it.”

The debate regarding the name has simmered in recent weeks, with most of the news coming from failed efforts by the team to defend it. While the controversy has reached a stage where it’s likely to not go away until the name changes, there wouldn’t be as much to say about the situation if the team can manage to stay out of its own way for a week or two.

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Today's generation could not have won WWII......This once great country has officially been dumbed-down and puzzified to the point of no return.

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