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1 minute ago, Dawkins 20 said:

He's been the owner for 20 years and is still like the 2nd or 3rd youngest owner in the league. :lol:

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the culture is damn good

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Bad news fellas

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, paco said:

Bad news fellas

One of my brothers is here, visiting for the Thanksgiving weekend. He's one of the Redskins fan brothers that I've mentioned. We were talking about football on Thanksgiving, and specifically the Redskins. He asked if I thought the Redskins would ever be good again. I asked how much longer he thought Snyder would be the owner... lol I also said that as long as Allen was the GM, they likely wouldn't be very good. But I said that he may be gone at the end of this season. 

So I kind of expect this to happen.

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2 hours ago, paco said:

Bad news fellas

 

 

 

The Redskins were awful before Allen.  It's still Snyder and Jerruh and we can count on them to F it up.

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1 hour ago, dawkins4prez said:

The Redskins were awful before Allen.  It's still Snyder and Jerruh and we can count on them to F it up.

Eh.  While I have disagreed with some of the Cowboys cap moves (see: Romo), overall they have been a really solid in how they have been run. They have drafted a hell of a lot better than us and don’t really make anything close to a head scratching move in FA in quite some time

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Trent Williams on Bruce Allen, Redskins exit and the future: ‘Everybody sees how they treated me’

HOUSTON — On another lost afternoon in his fall without football, Trent Williams stands in the gym he owns with his teammate Adrian Peterson and their trainer James Cooper, doing what he has done a lot these last several months: talking about fighting. He wears a black windbreaker and is surrounded by three of the professional boxers he manages. An empty ring is behind him.

The boxers, two men and one woman, stand in a half circle and seem almost to talk at once about the training they’ve done, the fights they’ve watched and the dreams they have. Williams leans against the ring and smiles. He loves their chatter, the hunger in their voices, the raw ambition in their words.

"I want to win all the titles in one year,” shouts Danielle Perkins, an amateur world champion heavyweight who is turning pro in a few weeks and plans to have Williams manage her. "Then I’m going to make Trent walk around wearing that female belt for a week!”

"I’ll wear it for a month!” he replies.

Back in Ashburn, his locker at the Washington Redskins’ practice facility remains filled with jerseys, shirts and shoes, looking as if he will be back to it at any moment. But this has instead been a lost season for the seven-time Pro Bowl left tackle, who at 31 years old has played his entire professional career with the franchise that selected him fourth overall in the 2010 NFL draft. He’s been one of the Redskins’ foundational players for the past decade.

His war against the team, which he has mostly directed at team president Bruce Allen, stems from a growth on his scalp that he feels team doctors did not take seriously and turned out to be a rare cancer. He sat out offseason workouts, training camp and the first half of the season hoping he would be traded. Once he returned, he says, the Redskins made him go away.

In a lengthy interview, Williams was highly critical of the leadership of the only NFL franchise he has known, accusing Allen of retaliating against him for his holdout, blaming him for the team’s failure to succeed over the last decade and describing his own feelings of betrayal by the team after playing through countless injuries, only to be left fearing for his life.

Describing the relationship between him and the team, he sadly shakes his head.

"I don’t see how it can be reconciled,” Williams says. "At the end of the day, I’m a human being. I ain’t like a dog and you can slap s--- out of me and I’m going to come back the next morning with my tail wagging. This was a conscious decision; they didn’t burn the bridge by accident. This was something they felt comfortable doing, so I got to feel comfortable with moving on, too.”

In the absence of a football season, Williams has returned home to Houston to his gym, O Athletik, and the boxers with whom he has spent much of the last several months. Three weeks ago he went to Sloan, Iowa, to watch the most prominent of his boxers, light heavyweight Joseph George, win his first big fight, a 10-round split-decision nationally televised on Showtime over previously undefeated Marcos Escudaro, who had won all but one of his fights by knockout.

Williams says he was as nervous before the fight as he was for any game in his nine-year NFL career, knowing how much George (now 10-0) wanted to win that night. When it was over and the announcer declared George the winner, Williams says: "I lost myself for a second. I forgot where I was.”

For years, Williams boxed as part of his offseason training with Cooper, a former professional kickboxer. At first it was just another workout to be pounded through, but the more time he spent around the fighters who worked with Cooper, the more he felt drawn to their passion. He took on the role of managing a handful of them because he knew they needed guidance and money to keep training. He thought he could give them both.

But as happy as he is for his fighters, Williams is also hurting. He says he didn’t return to the Redskins minutes before the 4 p.m. NFL trade deadline Oct. 29 simply to sit and collect the roughly $5.9 million he would make for the season’s final nine weeks. Yes, his coming back was a procedural move, to get credit for the 2019 season and keep the team from claiming it still controlled him for two more years on a contract that would otherwise expire after next season. But as long as he had returned to the team, he was going to play.

"At the end of the day I just wanted to do it for my teammates,” he says.


The problem, though, was that Williams’s helmet from last season had stiff padding, making it uncomfortable to wear. So much of his scalp was cut during the three surgeries he had early in the year to remove the tumor and repair the wound that more than half of the skin on his head is still numb. He says he can only feel about 60 percent of his haircut, and when he puts pressure on his head, he feels tingling and a burning sensation. The doctor who did the operation told him it might take as long as 18 months for the burning to go away. And while Williams had been cleared to play, he needed a helmet that wouldn’t make his head feel as if it was on fire.

The team’s interim head coach, Bill Callahan, was helping him get a custom-made helmet with spongier material inside from equipment company Riddell, and it was supposed to arrive the Monday after the team’s bye week. Williams was looking forward to trying it and practicing that next Wednesday. Instead, the team placed him on the league’s non-football injury list Nov. 7, the Thursday before the helmet was to arrive. Williams is convinced the move was made by Allen to punish him for holding out and for revealing his frustration over the team’s medical staff and his cancer diagnosis during a news conference two days after his holdout ended, Oct. 31.

"It’s kind of a vindictive move, and it just showed their hand on how they wanted to operate,” he says. "I mean, I had until Tuesday and the new helmet Riddell was talking about was coming in on Monday, so for them to prematurely put me on the list without taking [time to see if the helmet would work] goes to show you that they didn’t really want me to play anyway.”

The non-football injury designation confirmed for Williams what he had been hearing since summer, when his holdout began during the team’s minicamp in June — that Allen was the one driving the team’s refusal to trade him. The team’s stance throughout Williams’s holdout was to fine him for his absence and withhold his salary — as allowed under the collective bargaining agreement between the league and the players’ union — in the hope that the lost income would eventually drive him back.

Williams is sure Allen wanted him not to return this fall so the team could claim he had two years left on his contract and potentially get more value in an offseason trade. He says Allen ignored calls and messages from his agent in the days and hours before the trade deadline, hoping to trick Williams into not reporting.

"He didn’t say anything because he wanted that 4 o’clock to pass by, because if I didn’t report by 4, of course, he could challenge to keep me for two years instead of one.”

Williams sighs.

"It just goes to show you how behind the times [Allen] is, and he still tries to use that money to hold it over black athletes,” Williams says.

When asked this week about Williams’s allegations, Allen called them "comical.” He said Williams "elected to stay away” from the Redskins’ facility with his holdout and that Williams himself told reporters upon his return that he had a non-football injury. He pushed back on Williams’s suggestion he hoped that Williams wouldn’t report by the 4 p.m. trade deadline, saying Williams and his agent had told the team since the spring that he did not intend to come back.

Allen also said the league has a specific fine structure. "Every player understands the consequences,” he said.

In Houston, Williams poses a question that has been on his mind for months and seems even more pertinent now that Jay Gruden, the Redskins’ head coach for the previous 4½ seasons, has been fired and the team is rebuilding.

"Let’s say you are a coach candidate or you’re a free agent, what does it say to you?” he asks. “… It’s not like it’s something whispered. Everybody sees how they treated me. Free agents know for a better part of the last decade I’ve been one of the only guys in those Pro Bowl locker rooms with a Redskins symbol on my helmet. So then they see somebody like that get treated like that …”

His voice trails off.

"At the end of the day, money is money, so you might have to overpay just to get people in to overcome this,” he continues. "But I know if I was [a free agent] looking at it, I’d be looking at the situation closely.”

Williams has not talked to Redskins owner Daniel Snyder since being placed on the non-football injury list. This makes him sad, too, he says, for he always liked Snyder and realizes his holdout and everything that has happened since will bring more public scorn upon the owner. When he started speaking publicly about his problems with the organization, he never said a word about Snyder.

"People will want to say this is Snyder’s f---up, and I didn’t think it was,” he says.

But he seems befuddled by the way the team responded after he revealed the cancer diagnosis at that first news conference the week he reported to the team. He had kept the cancer news secret after first learning in the winter that the growth on his head — which he claims the Redskins’ doctors had not taken seriously for six years — turned into dermatofibrosarcoma protuberans, or DFSP, a soft-tissue sarcoma that develops in the deep layers of the skin. He didn’t tell his teammates or even the boxers he saw every day at his gym about the diagnosis. Few in the Washington organization knew. He hoped that by being silent and not exposing his anger toward the doctors, he would be traded and no one would really know what had happened.

Instead, he was forced back by the Redskins’ refusal to trade him, leaving him with what he considers no choice but to explain what went wrong. And when he did finally tell the world about his cancer — which has been completely removed from his scalp — he was devastated that the team’s response was to ask for a review of his medical records, with some Redskins officials suggesting to reporters that the review would show the team gave better care than he revealed.

"You aren’t dealing with rational people, ordinary people, who would run a business a certain way, like how you would think — textbook,” he says. "I think their whole deal to me was to downplay it, to say it wasn’t serious, to deny, deny the whole time.”

Williams says no one from the team was with him when the doctor told him, before surgery, that the cancer had been around for so long that it might have penetrated his skull and gone into his brain and that he should get his "affairs in order.” Williams feared he was going to die. And while he was relieved to later learn that the cancer had not gone through his skull, almost assuring the cancer would be survivable (DFSP has a survival rate of 99 percent), he says the doctor told him they had removed the tumor just in time because it was indeed heading toward this brain.

What bothers him most is that he feels he gave his body to the Redskins for nine seasons, believing that by playing through sometimes agonizing injuries, he was helping the team build toward something big. For years he dreamed of playing deep into the playoffs, only — in the end — to fear he was about to die and then be shut out of the building after he had essentially come crawling back.

He wonders how much the people in charge of the team really cared about him playing through that dislocated kneecap in 2017 and why no one seemed concerned when he tore the ligaments in his right thumb against the New York Giants last year. He says that he played more than a quarter with the thumb flopping around his palm and that the following day the doctors told him the injury wasn’t serious, putting him in a cast and telling him he should be able to play the next Sunday. It was only after his agent made him see a specialist that he understood how badly he was injured.

"The specialist called and said: ‘You should have been in for surgery yesterday. Your ligament that holds your thumb in place … not only did it come out, but it wrapped around your thumb,’ ” Williams says.

And still Williams came back to play three weeks after the surgery, finishing the year with what looked like a club on his hand, as the team lost six of its last seven games while trying to replace several injured players, including quarterbacks Alex Smith and Colt McCoy.

He stops and begins to think about the other players who have gone through the Redskins since he was drafted in 2010, Allen’s first year as president. He sees in his mind so many talented players who came in through the draft and then left as management made business decisions. What about Kirk Cousins? he asks. Or Preston Smith, the pass rusher who left as a free agent last year and has 10½ sacks this season for the Green Bay Packers?

Williams has been asking himself these questions a lot now that he has had time to think in broader terms about the only team for which he has played. He says he has started to realize the playoff runs he had been chasing all those years would always elude him, as the Redskins kept trying to jump-start winning only to stumble into more losing.

"There’s no shortcuts to the top,” he says. "It’s a long, grueling road, and right now I don’t even feel like the organization is on a road; it’s on a track that’s going in circles. You get to a point where you say, ‘All right, we’re about to break through,’ and in less than a year you’re back to rebuilding.”

Then he says this about Allen, who has overseen the team during a 10-year span that includes a record of 62-93-1:

"I just don’t understand,” he says. "In any business world, when the employer has someone who is underperforming, he finds another one. I don’t know in the last 10 years if there is a worse record [for] someone who has held their job for 10 years and performed the way they performed and still have a job. I don’t know. That would be good to look up and [see] just who else is in that company. I would be thrilled to find out.”

Asked for a response, Allen said, "I’m much more concerned about the Green Bay Packers than that,” referencing the team’s upcoming opponent.

Williams’s sanctuary during these challenging months has been this gym and these fighters who show up every day, desperate for a chance at greatness. His first boxer was a man he trained with named Christian Montoya. He loved how hard Montoya worked and could see how hard it was for the fighter to make money on the long climb to the top.

"They’re so used to being given the least, the minimum,” Williams says. "Boxing is a poor man’s sport. It is. There’s no other way around it. So a promoter can bring guys out [for fights] and gives them the bare minimum, and they can’t complain because it’s what they’re used to.”

When Williams talks about boxing, the word he uses a lot is "organic.” Nothing about the sport or the people he manages is contrived. The money is so small that everything is about work, and all of the fighters he has taken on are ones he has known for years and has spent hours talking to, learning their stories, understanding how desperate they are to someday be great.

In many ways, he is their lifeline. How else would George, who has five children and has been working two jobs in moving and construction to make ends meet, have the chance to fight on Showtime for a shot at the big time?

How else would Quinton Randall, a former U.S. amateur champion, be able to turn pro in his late 20s and already be 6-0? Randall was in a gang on the north side of Houston growing up. He spent two years in prison vowing to change his life, and the day he got out he went straight to a boxing gym. His inspiration was his young son, Quenell, who was going to grow up knowing a father who did things the right way, no matter how long it took.

Eventually, Randall found his way to O Athletik, working every day with Cooper and his coaches on the other side of town. It took years for Randall to break through, to be named captain of the U.S. team and win the national tournament late in 2016. Then the next January, while finishing his final training session with Cooper before heading to the U.S. facility in Colorado Springs for a training camp, he got a call.

Quenell and his mother had been in an accident on the way to see him before his trip. Quenell was being rushed to the hospital. Days later, he died.

"He was my motivation,” Randall says. "My motivation was gone. I took it as a challenge. What is my motivation now?”

When it came time to turn pro, Williams asked him what he needed. Everything would be taken care of.

"I told Trent,” Cooper says, " ‘you know how to pick them.’ ”

What will happen next between Williams and the Redskins? When asked the question, he shrugs. He misses his teammates and the locker room. He loved the short time he was back, sitting in meetings, pulling younger players aside and talking to them about ways they could be better.

He watches a lot of NFL games and is amazed by how poor the left tackle play has been around the league. He figures a few teams will be interested in a player who has been to seven Pro Bowls and is still young enough to make a difference. He assumes the Redskins will want to make a trade.

"Hopefully when the season is over with, they will feel like they put me through the wringer enough,” he says. "I mean, they already kept my salary and my fines. I feel that’s what Bruce wanted. Hopefully they got what they wanted and they can just let me go to somebody who wants me.”

Williams shrugs again.

"All good things come to an end,” he says.

 

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4 hours ago, 20dawk4life said:

Only way he can help is if he sells the team. 

I REALLY hope not

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20 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

Yea he might be my favorite nfl owner. 

It’s going to come down to the new stadium deal.  Snyder is absolutely toxic in the DMV area.  The ONLY politician who was friendly with Snyder, got arrested for corruption earlier this year.

I don’t see how it’s possible to get a new stadium, without Snyder paying for it nearly entirely himself.  Only when he has to extent the lease on the current piece of crap, will he have to actually deal with his two decades of Ineptitude. 

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Bruce Allen’s Redskins tenure has been a failure, by almost any measurement
By Neil Greenberg
December 10 at 7:00 AM
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Ten years ago, Washington Redskins owner Daniel Snyder fired longtime confidant Vinny Cerrato, replacing him with Bruce Allen as the team’s general manager. Snyder justified the move by saying "it was time for a change.”

It was hardly the last change. The franchise’s poor performance over the next decade subsequently claimed the jobs of coaches Mike Shanahan and Jay Gruden, prompted incessant turnover in the quarterbacks room and caused a fan exodus away from home games and Washington-area television screens. At least one man has thus far been spared any consequences: Allen, the team president, charged with overseeing football operations and, as of January of this year, the business side of the franchise, too.

That could be changing, too. The Washington Post reported that Snyder is planning a complete evaluation of the team, which could include a deeper assessment of Allen’s tenure than has taken place in previous years. The NFL Network reported the evaluation could be the most serious threat to Allen’s job during his time with the franchise, and Sports Illustrated’s Albert Breer told 106.7 the Fan that the search for a new coach "is going to be affected by the way that the building has operated for the last 10 years.”

With this as a backdrop, it’s time for a full and honest assessment of Allen’s regime. He has, at times, shared personnel responsibilities with Shanahan, his first major hire, and Scot McCloughan, who spent two seasons as general manager. For a decade, though, Allen has been the highest-ranking member of the front office under Snyder. And throughout his tenure, the Redskins have been mostly awful, in virtually every way.

Record
Allen was hired late in the 2009 season, saying: "I like urgency. I like doing things sooner than later.” Starting with the next fall, the Redskins have a 62-94-1 regular season record under Allen, their .398 winning percentage the fifth worst in the NFL over that span. They also have the NFL’s fifth-worst point differential (minus-611) since 2010. Only the Oakland Raiders (62-95), Tampa Bay Buccaneers (58-99), Jacksonville Jaguars (49-108) and Cleveland Browns (42-114-1) have worse records and point differentials over that span. All four of those teams have more wins in 2019, too.

The Redskins have finished over .500 three times in Allen’s 10 seasons, with just one campaign, 2012, producing 10 wins or more. Washington has just two playoff appearances over the past decade, both of which ended with losses in the wild-card round. Three-fourths of the league’s teams, 24 of 32, have at least one playoff win since 2010, and only five franchises other than Washington have two or fewer playoff appearances.

If you adjust each season’s point differential for strength of schedule, known as the Simple Rating System, three of the years under Allen’s watch, 2013, 2014 and this season, rank among the 10 worst seasons in Washington’s 88-year franchise history. The other seven are from the 1950s and 1960s.

SEASON    RECORD    SRS
1954    3-9-0    -19.7
1961    1-12-1    -15.7
1959    3-9-0    -12.9
2019    3-10-0    -9.8
2013    3-13-0    -9.3
1965    6-8-0    -9.0
2014    4-12-0    -8.7
1962    5-7-2    -8.4
1968    5-9-0    -8.3
1960    1-9-2    -8.0
Player performance
The nonwinning culture stems from a lack of talent, or at least production, which is a direct responsibility of the general manager or top football voice. None of the players on Washington’s roster from 2010 to the present have earned a first-team all-pro nomination. Every other team in the NFL has produced at least two all-pros in that span.

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Source: Pro-Football-Reference

Pro Football Focus’s film-based evaluations aren’t the only way to value players, but according to that metric, Washington ranked below average in player production during every season Allen has been at the helm except for one, a ninth-place ranking in 2016.PFSHF5OEE5CVNOOFJQY2XWXQC4.jpg

Quarterbacks and offense
The yearly debacles are due in large part to the inability of Allen and his staff to secure a franchise quarterback. Eleven quarterbacks have started at least one game for Washington since 2010 (tied for the fifth-most of any team over that span), producing a combined passer rating of 86.6, nearly a point lower than the league average over that span. The two best passing seasons over the past decade, 2012 (102.1 passer rating) and 2015 (102.0), were mostly achieved by Robert Griffin III and Kirk Cousins. The former was the No. 2 selection in the 2012 draft — a move that cost the Redskins three first-round picks and a second rounder; Griffin spent three years in Washington before being cut in 2016. Cousins was the starter from 2015 to 2017 before contentious contract negotiations precipitated his departure as a free agent.

Since then, the Redskins have produced the fourth-worst passer rating in the NFL (79.6, compared with a league average of 92.4). Some of that underwhelming performance is due to the loss of Alex Smith, Cousins’s replacement, but not all of it. Smith completed 63 percent of his passes in a Redskins uniform for 2,180 yards, 10 touchdowns and five interceptions, resulting in a 85.7 passer rating over 10 games before a broken leg ended his season. Before the injury, Smith was just the 26th-most valuable passer of 2018, per ESPN’s Total Quarterback Rating. Pro Football Focus ranked him 18th out of 36 qualified passers.

Offensively, the team has scored 1.7 points per drive over the past decade, converting 51 percent of its red-zone attempts. Both of those marks are below average for the decade. Washington has scored an above-average rate of points per drive in a season three times over the past decade and had above-average success in the red zone only twice.

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Defense
The Redskins have been every bit as bad on defense as on offense. Washington has allowed two points per drive from 2010 to 2019, the fifth-worst mark in the NFL, and has forced an opponent to go three-and-out less than a third of the time (32 percent, the eighth-worst mark).

According to Football Outsiders’ Defense-adjusted Value Over Average metric, which measures a team’s efficiency by comparing success on every single play to a league average based on situation and opponent, Washington’s defense has only finished the season as an above-average unit twice during Allen’s tenure: in 2011 (14th) and in 2017 (11th). The other seasons, Washington’s defense ranked 17th or worse. According to TruMedia’s expected points added metric, which calculates the number of points scored above or below what we would expect given the down, distance and field position of each play against, the Redskins have the seventh-worst rate over the past decade. Washington has only allowed fewer points than expected per 100 snaps once during Allen’s tenure, in 2017. Every other NFL team except the Oakland Raiders has more than one defensive season in the decade with a positive expected points allowed per 100 snaps.

Five of the Redskins’ defensive players — Lorenzo Alexander, DeAngelo Hall, Brian Orakpo, London Fletcher and Ryan Kerrigan — have made the Pro Bowl, although that’s partially a popularity contest.

Kerrigan might be the biggest front-office win of Allen’s tenure. The first-round draft pick was named to the all-rookie team in 2011 and was listed among the NFL’s top 100 players of 2015. His 88½ sacks are the second-most in franchise history behind Dexter Manley (91), and no Redskins player has more tackles for loss than Kerrigan (113) since 1999, which is as far back as data is available. In fact, Kerrigan has more tackles for loss than the next two players on the list combined.5QGVS7IAIVB3ZL4CLZKIXHHHMI.jpg

The draft
Aside from Kerrigan, the draft hasn’t reliably produced impact players. NFL analyst Warren Sharp pointed out in July that only seven of the 52 players drafted by Allen received another contract from Washington after their four-year rookie deals expired. Nearly two-thirds of the players selected under Allen (34 of 52) were out of the NFL or unsigned free agents this summer.

Another analyst, Jeff Feyerer, looked at the value of every NFL general manager from 2002 to 2015 based on their draft picks’ approximate value (as calculated by Pro-Football-Reference) and found Allen ranked 72nd among 90 general managers surveyed. McCloughan, ironically, ranked seventh. Allen ranked 55th in this group at finding talent in the first round.

Another of the best picks of the Allen era, seven-time Pro Bowl left tackle Trent Williams (a first-round pick in 2010), held out for most of 2019 and never played a snap amid a dispute with the front office over how Washington’s medical staff handled a growth on his head. Williams seems unlikely to play for Washington again, and he has harshly criticized Allen.

Two-time Pro Bowl right tackle Brandon Scherff (a first-round pick in 2015) reportedly was offered a long-term extension, but he and the club have yet to agree on a deal. Running back Derrius Guice (a second-round pick in 2018) has been limited by repeated knee injures, playing just five games over two seasons, and the early returns on quarterback Dwayne Haskins (a first-round pick in 2019) haven’t been encouraging. Haskins has completed 55 percent of his passes for 971 yards, three touchdowns and seven interceptions over seven games (five starts), producing a meager 61.2 passer rating.

Free agency and trades
Allen’s report card in free agency is also mixed, with the record trending toward bad and sometimes terrible. Notable signings have included Willie Parker, Larry Johnson, Rex Grossman, Joey Galloway, O.J. Atogwe, Stephen Bowen, Barry Cofield, Pierre Garçon, Josh Morgan, Brandon Meriweather, Cedric Griffin, E.J. Biggers, Darryl Tapp, Shawn Lauvao, Terrelle Pryor, Stacy McGee and Terrell McCain. None made a Pro Bowl or was selected as a first-team all-pro in Washington.

Two of Allen’s signings that did work out were safety D.J. Swearinger and linebacker Zach Brown. Swearinger held opposing quarterbacks to a 78.7 passer rating in coverage over two years, and Brown was the fourth-best linebacker of 2018, per Pro Football Focus. But Swearinger was released in 2018 after repeated public comments about the team, and Brown signed a one-year deal with the Eagles in May. He was released by Philadelphia in October after six games.

The Redskins also traded a second-round pick and a conditional third- or fourth-round pick for then-34-year-old Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb in 2010. McNabb was benched in favor of Grossman and traded to the Minnesota Vikings after the 2010 season for a sixth-round pick.

The big picture
Resuscitating a storied franchise is tough work, and fans appear to be checking out in droves. In 2010, Washington had the second-highest announced home attendance in the NFL (665,380 total, 83,172 per game). This season, the Redskins have the seventh-lowest (394,577 through six games, 65,762 per game). There appear to be broader consequences. In 2011, Forbes valued the Redskins at $1.55 billion, which made the franchise the second-most-valuable property in the NFL. This past year, the franchise was valued at $3.4 billion, dropping it to seventh. Those are staggering numbers, to be sure, yet the growth lags behind that of an average NFL franchise, which saw its value rise from $1.04 billion in 2011 to $2.86 billion in 2019.

None of these problems — the dearth of talent, the search for a franchise quarterback, the quest for postseason success, the lagging franchise value — can be solved overnight. But Allen has a 10-year track record, and it has left the franchise mired in mediocrity in every imaginable way.

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23 hours ago, Captain F said:

Guice to IR. Again. 

Silver lining:  He's running out of ligaments to tear.

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Speaking of Portis... he's one of 10 people facing charges for defrauding the league's healthcare program.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/12/12/clinton-portis-among-former-nfl-players-charged-with-defrauding-health-care-program/%3foutputType=amp

 

 

 

 

Buckhalter too. :ph34r:

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Not shocked. Puddin head has been broke for a while now

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:lol: 

 

Also, the natives on ES are all swooping in on the rumor about Allen being done.  It's also been noted that during this same period of time, Louis Riddick has been virtually absent from social media.  Maybe a coincidence, maybe not. 

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