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Aaron Hernandez - Found guilty of First Degree Murder (UPDATE: committed suicide)

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california has it...

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Of the map, the only state that would have 'surprised' me would probably be Pennsylvania. Had I not already known about Ca having it, I'd probably have been surprised by them but I already knew.

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Adam Schefter---"Boston PD has located red SUV w RI plates it was looking for in July 2012 homicide. Hernandez rented it"

worst criminal ever

Its a bit surprising with how badly he 'covered up' this latest murder that its taken them 11 months to catch up with him on the other case.

Of course he does seem to have pattern: Rent an SUV in your name then go and kill some guy(s).

It occurred to me yesterday that LLoyd might have known something about Hernandez and that's why he killed him (maybe tried to black mail him?) but I never would have guessed what he had was info on another homicide much less a double homicide.

How did the NFL and the Pats not have the slightest clue about this guy. They're supposed to have these vaunted security investigative teams but they miss this psycho?

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Texas don't mess around, 340 in 2005 and they are getting ready excute number 500...

I think that 340 was between 1977 and 2005

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Not trying to bring politics into this at all, but Mass is a very liberal state and usually liberal states don't have the death penalty. I'd have been shocked if they had it.

Yeah, he wont get the death penalty, they were saying during the manhunt for the Boston Marathon bomber (they killed the other one), the only way they would get the death penalty would be on the federal level. He's facing life without parole, if convicted.

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At least Hernandez can put forth some of that 40 mil. into commissary.

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anyone know how much hernandez made by now?

The only thing I've heard about was the $41 Million contract that he signed last August. I think there was $12 Million in bonus money and of that they still owe him something like $3.5 Million that they may not be able to avoid paying.

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The evidence:

  • Victim found 1/2 mile from Hernandez's home w/ numerous gunshot wounds
  • 5 .45 caliber shells found at the scene, fired from a semi-auto weapon, based on the locations and distance between them.
  • Victim was not robbed, had wallet, keys and phone.
  • Keys were to a rental car, registered to Hernandez.
  • Phone contained text messages between the victim and Hernandez, within hours of the murder.
  • Victim's sister said her brother left at 2:30 AM in a silver Nissan Altima with three people inside
  • Hernandez had been renting a Silver Nissan Altima
  • Hernandez had known the victim for about a year, The victims girlfriend is the sister of Hernandez's Fiance
  • The police went to question Hernandez, Who didn't answer the door. a squad car was placed outside. Eventually Hernandez came out, and told the cops he knew they were they and that he had been watching them on his surveillance system
  • A warrant was issued to seize surveillance footage from Hernandez's home.
  • Hernandez had recently installed a 14 camera system with cameras inside and out.
  • Upon reviewing the footage, they noticed that the first 6-8 hours of footage after the time of the murder was missing.
  • at 9:02 PM Hernandez texted a friend from out of state "please make it back"
  • 9:05 he texted the victim, indicating he wanted to come by and get together with him
  • 9:35 he texted the same out of state friend "get your a** up here" then at 10:23 "hurry your a** up"
  • The man he was texting and one other showed up at Hernandez's home, seen on surveillance footage
  • Shortly after they arrive, Hernandez is seen with a firearm in his home on the surveillance system says "he is upset that he can't trust anyone anymore"
  • the three left Hernandez's home at 1:12 AM in the silver Nissan Altima, captured on surveillance, phone records and cell tower
  • the went from Hernandez's home to route 95, headed south towards (? couldn't understand) they turned around and went north. the cell phone tower tracked their movement to a gas station off route 128
  • at 2:10AM Hernandez bought Gas, Bubbalicious blue cotton candy gum, and black and milds which are used for smoking marijuana (the prosecutor seems to be mistaken about common blunt cigars but oh well)
  • Next they went to the victims home, at 2:32 am Hernandez sent a text "we're here" to the victim, this is when the victims sister saw him leave with them, Hernandez was driving
  • They drove back to North Attleboro, this is corroborated by some random surveillance cameras and route was determined by time and distance traveled.
  • during the ride, Hernandez had a conversation with the victim indicating he was upset with him. The two had gone to a club together Friday night.
  • he said some things happened that night and he wasn't sure if he could trust the victim, one of them was that the victim had spoken to some people He had troubles with, and he was mad about it.
  • At 3:07 AM the victim sent a text to his sister "did you see who I am with" no response he texted again at 3:11 AM "Hello?"
  • at 3:19 am his sister replied "who?" at 3:22 the victim texted back "NFL" then 1 minute later "Just so you know"
  • at the time of these texts, the car is seen on surveillance cameras in the area of the murder site/Hernandez's home
  • Surveillance cameras show the vehicle driving down the road to the murder site at 3:23 AM
  • between 3:23 and 3:27 am workers nearby hear multiple gunshots
  • cameras pick up the vehicle along the route between the murder site and Hernandez's home at 3:27 and 3:28 AM.
  • Hernandez's own Surveillance picks sees him arriving back home at 3:29 AM
  • Police confirm it is only a 2 minute drive.
  • autopsy found that all evidence was consistent with the victim being murdered where he was found. In other words, he wasn't dumped. Also consistent Time of death to the time the car was there.
  • two through and through wounds to the victim's chest. Police returned to the scene and dug where the victim was, they found the bullets, indicating the victim was on the ground when he was shot. Both bullets were .45 caliber, consistent with the casings found. All fired from the same unknown gun
  • at 3:30 AM Hernandez is seen with his companions in his driveway, one of whom has a gun.
  • they go inside. Surveillance shows Hernandez walking around with a gun in his hand.
  • all three go to the basement. Surveillance cameras shut off
  • later that day, 5:30 PM Hernandez and his companions return the Nissan Altima to the rental agency, Hernandez offers the attendant Blue Bubbalicious.
  • one of the side mirrors is broken on the car, footage of the vehicle earlier in the night suggest it wasn't broken when he left Boston, he tells the rental agency he didn't even notice it. The evidence being that it was broken sometime between leaving Boston and arriving back at home.
  • He rents another car and returns home, companions leave.
  • At the rental agency, a piece of bubbalicious and a shell casing were found, attendant threw them away. When questioned, she told investigators about it, they found it in the dumpster, Shell casing matched to the casings found at the scene.
  • Tire impressions at the murder scene right next to the body were consistent with a front wheel drive vehicle (altima is FWD)
  • Investigators checked out the rental car. Tire treads matched those at the crime scene. Dirt found on the car also matched the crime scene
  • They found a .22 nearby in a search of everywhere between Hernandez's home and the murder site. Hernandez a month prior had been involved an altercation in providence Rhode island. He had someone with him who was seen to place a gun under a car. This man matches the description of one of his companions on the night of the murder.
  • The gun under the car in Providence was traced to a Florida gun store. The 22 found between Hernandez's home and the murder site was from the same store.
  • further search warrant of Hernandez's home ordered. They found 22 ammo, but no 22 gun. They also found a large capacity 7.62 Hungarian semi auto rifle, and a fully loaded 32 round magazine . Hernandez's prints on it, he doesn't have the correct paperwork to own it.
  • Not recovered was the Black semi auto handgun seen in Hernandez's hand before and after the murder. the second individuals gun not found either.
  • Hernandez's girlfriend was spoken to by police, she was cooperating until a call from Hernandez telling her not to. She then stopped talking.
  • the victim had defensive wounds and seemed to attempt to stop the bullets with his arms.

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damn so regardless he will have made 15.5 million up until now?

By the time he pays his attorneys and child support, he'll be left with squat. And if he does manage to have anything left, the family wrongful death civil suit will take care of that.

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Damn. There isn't a murder weapon or an eye witness, but it certainly seems like they have a strong circumstantial case against him.

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LMAO my apologies, I should've looked to see if anyone else posted it.

No apologies needed, it should be posted on each new page of this thread as it grows from now through the trial.

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No apologies needed, it should be posted on each new page of this thread as it grows from now through the trial.

It's pretty awesome lol

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Just for the sake of discussion let's say that the Eagles (or any other team for that matter) claimed this POS off the wire as a cap investment. If he's convicted and thrown into prison, would the claiming team then be able to recover any of the bonus money paid by the Patriots and turn it into cap credit?

Isn't that what the Falcons did with Vick and the money that they were able to get back?

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Just for the sake of discussion let's say that the Eagles (or any other team for that matter) claimed this POS off the wire as a cap investment. If he's convicted and thrown into prison, would the claiming team then be able to recover any of the bonus money paid by the Patriots and turn it into cap credit?

Isn't that what the Falcons did with Vick and the money that they were able to get back?

That's a good question, but I don't think so. He went unclaimed, but no team can sign him until his legal issues are resolved, Goodell issued this statement,

"NEW YORK — The NFL told its teams Thursday that any player contract they enter into with Aaron Hernandez before charges against him are resolved won't be approved without a hearing by Commissioner Roger Goodell.

The league said the hearing would be to decide if the former New England Patriots tight end should be suspended or face other action before a resolution of the charges is reached. It said no player contract with Hernandez would take effect before a hearing. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/27/nfl-aaron-hernandez-roger-goodell_n_3512856.html

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That's a good question, but I don't think so. He went unclaimed, but no team can sign him until his legal issues are resolved, Goodell issued this statement,

Yeah, I mean if he had been claimed while his contract was still 'valid' on the waiver wire.

I can't imagine a team having the guts to actually claim him but if it turns out that the Patriots can re-claim his $12.5 Million signing bonus then it would have been a good investment to claim him and then recoup the $12.5 Million cap bonus.

Of course the claiming team would probably only get the credit for the actual amount collected and after his trial he'll probably be tapped out.

Still though, imagine Howie claiming him and the media/TATEr explosion, then a year from now having the Eagles get a bonus $12.5 Million on the cap... :lol:

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Yeah, I mean if he had been claimed while his contract was still 'valid' on the waiver wire.

I can't imagine a team having the guts to actually claim him but if it turns out that the Patriots can re-claim his $12.5 Million signing bonus then it would have been a good investment to claim him and then recoup the $12.5 Million cap bonus.

Of course the claiming team would probably only get the credit for the actual amount collected and after his trial he'll probably be tapped out.

Still though, imagine Howie claiming him and the media/TATEr explosion, then a year from now having the Eagles get a bonus $12.5 Million on the cap... :lol:

complete meltdown lol

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