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Aaron Hernandez - Found guilty of First Degree Murder (UPDATE: committed suicide)

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He's done. Even if he wasn't the one who pulled the trigger it's still a murder charge for being an accomplice right?

Not sure, but I think if he were just an accomplice, they would've charged him with conspiracy to commit murder.

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Not sure, but I think if he were just an accomplice, they would've charged him with conspiracy to commit murder.

For murder 1 you don't have to be the guy who pulled the trigger. Even if he drove the car he'd still be guilty. Or at least that's what the news said

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For murder 1 you don't have to be the guy who pulled the trigger. Even if he drove the car he'd still be guilty. Or at least that's what the news said

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He's done. Even if he wasn't the one who pulled the trigger it's still a murder charge for being an accomplice right?

I guess it would be like a mob boss ordering a hit type of charge

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As expected, the Patriots will not willingly pay another penny to Aaron Hernandez.

According to Ben Volin of the Boston Globe, whose article is unfortunately trapped behind a pay wall, the Patriots have “voided” all remaining guaranteed money due and owing to Hernandez.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/29/pats-officially-shut-off-any-remaining-pay-to-hernandez/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

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Not that it's relevant (totally different set of issues, and a three month old fetus that lacks the capacity for pain of robust expierience is incomperable to a human with a fully devloped brain and sense of self), but yes.

and what about when you get to 6,7,8 months? Does your anger over the death penalty extend to those months? Or do you cherry pick the months as well?

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and what about when you get to 6,7,8 months? Does your anger over the death penalty extend to those months? Or do you cherry pick the months as well?

When it comes to third trimester, then I evaluate it on a case by case basis. For example, if it's a matter of life and death for the woman, or if a husband/parent/boyfriend/lack of ability to get to a clinic (with many states restricting clinics, it is more difficult for low income women in rural areas who lack their own cars to reach clinics)/ crazy red tape set up by local or state laws that restricted her from getting an abortion in a more timely manner then I don't see a late abortion as immoral. If, on the other hand, the woman just had a last minute change of heart, then I do think that's immoral.

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If a fetus commits a murder, than the death penalty should apply to them as well.

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Eagles arent doing all that badfJeoSLs.png

Nice to see the Eagles in the bottom 5. Andy ran a pretty tight ship when it came to his players (sadly you could throw his sons into the arrest list). It's also interesting to point out a team like the Colts, who were coached by Tony Dungy, a man who man called the model coach, great mentor (he too had problems off the field with his son + drugs and dying). I'm assuming a majority of the 23 arrests happened under him? Of course the Bengals at #1...not a shocker but 40 of those arrests likely could have happened within 2-3 years. They really have cleaned up their image the past few years. Weeded out all the troublemakers.

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That is funny. And sad it's true. Well we know where he will be in a couple of months. Playing on the prison football team. They always win their 1 game a year vs the Guards. The name of that team? The Mean Machine of course.

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That is funny. And sad it's true. Well we know where he will be in a couple of months. Playing on the prison football team. They always win their 1 game a year vs the Guards. The name of that team? The Mean Machine of course.

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Looks like Tebow's name is now popping up in past incidents involving Hernandez. Hernandez, who was 17 at the time, was involved in a 1am Florida bar fight in which a then 19 year old Tim Tebow helped break up. Tebow at the time was listed as Witness 1 in fear his name would get out to the media.

Why are two underage football players in a bar at 1am and even more importantly...why is one of them Tebow? Really goes against his whole squeaky clean image. Not saying he was involved in the fight but shows poor judgement from a team mentor/leader.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/07/02/aaron-hernandez-tim-tebow-barfight/2483559/

Hernandez, a 17-year-old freshman at the time who had not even played a down for the Gators, got into an argument over an unpaid tab for two drinks, according to an incident report obtained by USA TODAY Sports. Hernandez was not of legal drinking age.

The report said a waitress at The Swamp Restaurant brought Hernandez the drinks, which he consumed before refusing to pay the bill. Bouncer Michael Taphorn confronted Hernandez, then asked him to leave. Outside the bar, Hernandez told police, Taphorn got into his face. When Taphorn turned to re-enter the bar, police said Hernandez hit him on the side of the head.

The original incident report lists Tebow only as "Witness 1," but his identity has been verified to USA TODAY Sports by Gainesville Police Department spokesman Ben Tobias and the supplemental report. Tebow, according to the supplemental report, "was concerned that his name would get out to the media as being involved in the incident," and that's why he was anonymously listed as a witness.

The incident took place around 1 a.m. ET, and Hernandez left the area immediately after the altercation. When a responding officer could not locate him, the officer interviewed Tebow, who said he tried to resolve the problem, according to the supplemental report. Tebow said he urged Hernandez to leave peacefully and tried to make arrangements to pay the bill. Later, when police interviewed Hernandez, Tebow was present.

A positional coach at Florida praised Tebow's maturity, being a mentor when getting involved with guys like Hernandez:

John Hevesy, who was Hernandez's positional coach at the University of Florida, told ESPN.com that Tebow had reached out to Hernandez but no mentorship was struck.

"Tim struggled with [others'] immaturity," Hevesy said, "like, 'Why aren't you doing this the way I do it?' Kids are kids. I think it's not as much Aaron as it was Timmy. Timmy was a very mature 18-year-old. If you take a poll of 10 18-year-olds, 'What are first three things on your mind?' OK, first is going to be women, second's going be this and third's going got be this. Tim's going to be, 'Well, God, God and God.'

"Were they still close? Yes. But I think 18-year-olds want to do what 18-year-olds want to do, and Tim was more of a 22-year-old."

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Looks like Tebow's name is now popping up in past incidents involving Hernandez. Hernandez, who was 17 at the time, was involved in a 1am Florida bar fight in which a then 19 year old Tim Tebow and Jesus helped break up. Tebow at the time was listed as Witness 1 in fear his name would get out to the media.

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Ok. Was Jesus Witness # 2? That's funny.

No, but Tebow is a witness to Jesus

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It just keeps on getting worse and worse for this freakin guy:

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9447468/cops-find-evidence-secret-aaron-hernandez-pad

"Court documents indicate the search of a secret "flop house" leased by former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez has turned up what police say could be key evidence in the murder case against him.

Search warrants records indicate that police searching the Franklin, Mass., condominium Hernandez had rented found the same caliber ammunition used in Lloyd's slaying and a white hooded sweatshirt similar to what Hernandez was allegedly wearing that night Odin Lloyd was killed.

Authorities also found a cranberry-colored cap with "society" written backward in white lettering, similar to one Hernandez was seen wearing outside a nightclub in Boston on June 14. Video of Hernandez wearing the cap was shown on WHDH-TV in Boston, according to court records.

A state trooper wrote that the clothing could help place Hernandez at the crime scene and establish his location before the killing.

"The white sweatshirt could be used to assist in linking Hernandez to the scene of the crime," Michael Bates, a detective with the Bristol County District Attorney's Office, wrote in his affidavit.

"The baseball hat could help provide the whereabouts of Hernandez on the Friday night before the homicide. This night, in particular, is a critical aspect in the timeline of events leading up to the homicide," Bates wrote."

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