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5 minutes ago, mateagle2 said:

I guess I was not looking at anyone past the 5th as being a plan A option... but like I said Jeremy Nichols is there... Perine will be gone if we stay put

Don't know where Williams goes,but I think on a rotation with Smalls we would be fine

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  48 minutes ago, GreenbleedinFL said:

I had a Great Horned owls nest(very rare) in my tree out back last year.It got really windy and knocked the baby out of the nest.Fell a pretty good distance.I called my contacts,they arranged for me to take it to a rescue center on Sanibel.I put it in a box with leaves for support and headed out.I got about 1 mile away and then got hit with flashing lights(cops) I stopped and they asked me if i was the guy with the owl.I said yeah,they said lets roll.I had a police escort all the way(and yeah they were stopping traffic lol)

The rancher next door to us was running a field for hay and came across a nest of Turkey Eggs they had disturbed... they were left completely exposed and they feared it been abandoned. so the next day she gave the eggs to my wife who does chickens and she incubated and had a 100% hatch and we were able to grow them out until they were "JUST" barely not capable of flight, and released them on our property... hunters have probably gotten to them by now, that was several years ago.

I was going out back to catch a horse yesterday and 2 BIG gobblers walked across our pasture in front of me. It's turkey season but you can only hunt until 1:00.
Those damn things carry watches.

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  46 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

It does? Out of all the RB scenarios you have to start the day w/ the negative one, why? Sounds like we have 5 more picks and there are some good ones.

I guess I was not looking at anyone past the 5th as being a plan A option... but like I said Jeremy Nichols is there... Perine will be gone if we stay put

Perrine,Mack,Gallman,Hill.If we miss on ALL of them then Williams would be ok

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16 minutes ago, GreenbleedinFL said:

So do we even have enough cap space to pay the rooks? lol

1.6 mil only

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7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinFL said:

Perrine,Mack,Gallman,Hill.If we miss on ALL of them then Williams would be ok

There are some VERY nice options if the RB we are looking for is the Sproles replacement... Tarik Cohen, 

OVERVIEW

While only a bit over 5-foot-6 and 175 pounds, Cohen was one of the most productive running backs at the FCS level the past four seasons. The MEAC's all-time leading rusher (5,619 yards) and first three-time conference Offensive Player of the Year was an All-American in 2016, setting a school record with 1,588 yards and 19 touchdowns on 212 carries (37-339, one TD receiving). Cohen was a third-team All-American as a junior (264-1,543, 15 TD rushing; 25-217 receiving) and led the MEAC in scoring as well as rushing in 2014 (197-1,340, 15 TD rushing; 25-237, one TD receiving). Though he started only six games as a freshman, Cohen managed to run for 1,148 yards and eight scores on 195 attempts (11-152, one TD receiving).

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS

 Nicknamed "The Human Joystick" for his ability to make seemingly impossible cuts. Plays with unpredictable movements. Can turn any play into a random game of "connect the dots." Rare ability to stop and start. Cuts are just as seamless and sharp from any direction. Field vision is excellent. Has lateral escapability to put would-be tacklers on his highlight tapes. Gifted with unusually large hands and a powerful lower body that enhances his contact balance and ability to drive for extra yardage. Very good acceleration pulls him away from tacklers and into the clear. Relentless competitor. Had four touchdown runs of 83-plus yards this season. A true weapon out of the backfield that will be tough to matchup with. Has good hands and is very slippery in space.

WEAKNESSES

 Falls below the size standards expected from the position. Overwhelmed slower and less talented competition. Benefitted from heinous angles to the ball from tacklers he faced. Way too eager to take plays off script. Wants to swing for the fences on every snap and will have to learn when to hit singles. Too eager to bounce everything. Takes his share of negative yardage carries. Feet are electric, but footwork and run track on zone plays needs work. Takes big hits from big men when trying to fight out of tackles and squeeze out extra yards. Stature and short arms make him a tougher target for quarterbacks. Has almost no experience as a punt or kick returner on special teams.

DRAFT PROJECTION

 Rounds 5-6

NFL COMPARISON

 Darren Sproles

BOTTOM LINE

 Cohen uses a bounding, bouncing approach to the line of scrimmage reminiscent of Le'Veon Bell, but he's far less likely to finish downhill and instead looks to break it wide and out-race defenders. He's an electric playmaker who needs touches, but he's too small and unpredictable to handle much of an NFL carry count. Cohen gets easy separation as a receiver out of the backfield or from the slot and he will likely be used as an updated version of Darren Sproles 2.0.

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Donnel Pumphrey

OVERVIEW

Pumphrey and Ron Dayne are now the top two rushers in FBS history, even though San Diego State's small and quick runner (listed at 5-foot-9, 180 pounds) couldn't be any different in style than the brutish former Heisman Trophy winner. Pumphrey beat the record in his final game, finishing off an All-American season where he led with nation with 2,133 rushing yards on 349 carries (tied for most in FBS) and 17 scores (along with 27-231 receiving). He won the Mountain West Offensive Player of the Year this fall, repeating the honor he was given in 2015 for covering 1,653 yards and scoring 17 touchdowns on 309 carries. He also led the Aztecs with 28 receptions, accumulating 416 yards and three scores. Pumphrey set a school record with 1,867 yards while scoring 20 times as a sophomore, earning the first of three first-team All-Mountain West accolades. As a freshman, he only started one game but still had 256 totes for 1,244 yards and 15 touchdowns (with 22-234, two TD receiving).

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS

 Produced at high levels. Patient but decisive when he sees it. Accesses instant turbo burst. Rarely loses races to and around the edge. Plus vision creates ability to navigate shifting run creases like a seasoned veteran. Slaloms through traffic from side to side with seamless, tight jump cuts. Keeps tight track through the gaps, maintaining distance from defensive linemen. Able to string moves together. Razor-sharp cutbacks at challenging angles are his thing. Made a rare 90-degree cut out of a downhill run against South Alabama. Excels in outside zone but has courage to stick it between tackles. Extremely elusive in open field after catch. Used as matchup weapon out of backfield. Good route runner who creates necessary separation.

WEAKNESSES

 Undersized. Lacks the leg thickness and overall physical strength desired out of an NFL running back. Spirit is willing but flesh is weak. Arm tackles are able to end his journey. Willing to accelerate into defender, but doesn't have the pop to break tackles or fall forward after contact. Quicker than fast. Will get caught from behind. Body catcher with average hands that lead to double catches. Too small to protect against NFL blitzers as third-down back.

DRAFT PROJECTION

 Round 5-6

SOURCES TELL US

 "I don't care how big he is, he's a good player. Look, he's tiny so you can't take him too early because there's risk in putting a skinny runner out there. You have to have an offense that makes sense for him but everyone I talk to on the road likes the talent. The size is going to be the only concern." -- AFC West scout

NFL COMPARISON

 Tyler Ervin

BOTTOM LINE

 Pumphrey is an efficient, natural back who runs with outstanding tempo and vision. Has outstanding agility and ability to disappear and leave tacklers grasping at air in open field. While he has good burst and quickness, he does lack the home-run speed expected from such small running backs. He won't even be an option for teams married to physical minimums, but there is a place on the roster for his talent provided he can become a return man or viable receiving option as well.

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  10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinFL said:

Perrine,Mack,Gallman,Hill.If we miss on ALL of them then Williams would be ok

There are some VERY nice options if the RB we are looking for is the Sproles replacement... Tarik Cohen, 

OVERVIEW

While only a bit over 5-foot-6 and 175 pounds, Cohen was one of the most productive running backs at the FCS level the past four seasons. The MEAC's all-time leading rusher (5,619 yards) and first three-time conference Offensive Player of the Year was an All-American in 2016, setting a school record with 1,588 yards and 19 touchdowns on 212 carries (37-339, one TD receiving). Cohen was a third-team All-American as a junior (264-1,543, 15 TD rushing; 25-217 receiving) and led the MEAC in scoring as well as rushing in 2014 (197-1,340, 15 TD rushing; 25-237, one TD receiving). Though he started only six games as a freshman, Cohen managed to run for 1,148 yards and eight scores on 195 attempts (11-152, one TD receiving).

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS

 Nicknamed "The Human Joystick" for his ability to make seemingly impossible cuts. Plays with unpredictable movements. Can turn any play into a random game of "connect the dots." Rare ability to stop and start. Cuts are just as seamless and sharp from any direction. Field vision is excellent. Has lateral escapability to put would-be tacklers on his highlight tapes. Gifted with unusually large hands and a powerful lower body that enhances his contact balance and ability to drive for extra yardage. Very good acceleration pulls him away from tacklers and into the clear. Relentless competitor. Had four touchdown runs of 83-plus yards this season. A true weapon out of the backfield that will be tough to matchup with. Has good hands and is very slippery in space.

WEAKNESSES

 Falls below the size standards expected from the position. Overwhelmed slower and less talented competition. Benefitted from heinous angles to the ball from tacklers he faced. Way too eager to take plays off script. Wants to swing for the fences on every snap and will have to learn when to hit singles. Too eager to bounce everything. Takes his share of negative yardage carries. Feet are electric, but footwork and run track on zone plays needs work. Takes big hits from big men when trying to fight out of tackles and squeeze out extra yards. Stature and short arms make him a tougher target for quarterbacks. Has almost no experience as a punt or kick returner on special teams.

DRAFT PROJECTION

 Rounds 5-6

NFL COMPARISON

 Darren Sproles

BOTTOM LINE

 Cohen uses a bounding, bouncing approach to the line of scrimmage reminiscent of Le'Veon Bell, but he's far less likely to finish downhill and instead looks to break it wide and out-race defenders. He's an electric playmaker who needs touches, but he's too small and unpredictable to handle much of an NFL carry count. Cohen gets easy separation as a receiver out of the backfield or from the slot and he will likely be used as an updated version of Darren Sproles 2.0.

yeah but Sproles is bigger(still small) so injury concerns with tarik cause he's smaller yet

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Just now, GreenbleedinFL said:

yeah but Sproles is bigger(still small) so injury concerns with tarik cause he's smaller yet

Are you suggesting  that RMatt is a better option?

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When all the hoopla was going on about Caf, stats came out regarding RB's under 200 lbs, their health and longevity becomes a detriment to the team. Sure there are the rarities like Sproles and that's not really my concern. Pedey runs between the tackles which means durability and enough power to break tackles. I was looking at RB's in the 230 range

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OVERVIEW

The son of the late Elijah McGuire, Sr. (who passed away when Elijah was just 12 years old) led the state of Louisiana in rushing as a senior with 2,603 yards while also throwing for 497 yards and five scores. Since signing on with the Ragin' Cajuns as a running back, he's racked up over 4,000 career yards. He was the Sun Belt Conference's Freshman of the Year in 2013 and first-team all-conference pick (863 yards, eight TD rushing; 22-384, 3 TD receiving), leading the FBS with an average of 8.4 yards per carry. McGuire was named the conference Player of the Year the following season with 1,264 rushing yards (7.6 per carry), 14 scores, and 45 catches for 468 yards and two touchdowns. His numbers were down a bit in his junior year (210-1,058, 13 TD rushing; 33-293, three TD receiving) but he still earned honorable mention All-Sun Belt notice. McGuire set a career high with 232 carries as a senior (1,168 yards, seven TD) and made plays as a receiver (29-238, two TD), so he was recognized as a second-team all-conference selection. McGuire has also returned punts at times over the past three seasons (career totals of 28-197).

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS

 Compact frame with good thickness in legs. Runs with good ball security. Very athletic with plus acceleration. Runs with forward lean and has strong burst through the hole when he sees it. Plant-and-go runner. Able to cut it back two gaps away. Build-up speed to the corner seems to fool linebackers who think they have the angle. Has some subtle wiggle approaching line of scrimmage. Excellent hand-eye coordination as pass catcher. Effective from the slot and into routes.

WEAKNESSES

 Drops head, causing him to lose sight heading into the hole. Poor feel for spacing of the running lane. Runs too close to defensive linemen when open area is available. Lacks desired downhill toughness. Has no jump cut for optimal elusiveness. Lateral cuts driven by outside foot and lacks width. Will run up blocker's back when there is still yardage to be had. Gives into tackles. Never finished with more than five broken tackles in a single season. Arm tackles throw him off his path. Pass protection needs work.

DRAFT PROJECTION

 Round 6-7

SOURCES TELL US

 "He has a foot injury that really did a number on him. I'm not saying he's a physical runner or an early-round pick but he didn't move the same this year after he got hurt. Better player last year for a reason." -- Scout with NFC East team

BOTTOM LINE

 Has decent size, speed and athleticism, but right now he's a better athlete than running back. His vision is okay, but he is simply too quick to give up on runs rather than competing at a high level. His production fell sharply this past season thanks to a foot injury, but his weaknesses transcend any injuries. He has developmental traits that could land him at the back end of a roster or on a practice squad.

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1 minute ago, mjkline1958 said:

When all the hoopla was going on about Caf, stats came out regarding RB's under 200 lbs, their health and longevity becomes a detriment to the team. Sure there are the rarities like Sproles and that's not really my concern. Pedey runs between the tackles which means durability and enough power to break tackles. I was looking at RB's in the 230 range

That would make Perine a MUST GO GET player

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Perine was who I had in 3rd. Broke my streak but Rasul was a good pick to add competition in the CB room and cover while Jones gets healthy w/o rushing him back. Then Pit grabbed Connor just before the end last pm. Don't know if Perine will make it through the 1st 10 picks today, I'm surprised others went before him.

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With 2-4s and needing to move players, I dont see a scenario where we sit tight... we havent moved once yet... that is not like Howie

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Just now, mjkline1958 said:

Perine was who I had in 3rd. Broke my streak but Rasul was a good pick to add competition in the CB room and cover while Jones gets healthy w/o rushing him back. Then Pit grabbed Connor just before the end last pm. Don't know if Perine will make it through the 1st 10 picks today, I'm surprised others went before him.

That makes me happy for the kid... noone had him ranked that high... but the Steelers were showing love to a hometown kid, by going after him in a way that said they didnt want anyone else to have him

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Perine was who I had in 3rd. Broke my streak but Rasul was a good pick to add competition in the CB room and cover while Jones gets healthy w/o rushing him back. Then Pit grabbed Connor just before the end last pm. Don't know if Perine will make it through the 1st 10 picks today, I'm surprised others went before him.

Rasul is slow IMO

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  13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinFL said:

yeah but Sproles is bigger(still small) so injury concerns with tarik cause he's smaller yet

Are you suggesting  that RMatt is a better option?

No we were talking about a replacement for Sproles and Tarik is SMALLER than him

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