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Ezekiel Elliott Suspended for 6 games

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2 minutes ago, cowboy30 said:

The set up is a good point! But what about the, "If they ask, Zeke dragged me out of the car. Like right when we pulled up."

Did that really happen and she just wanted a witness? Or did she want to lie or just overblow what happened?

Could be either but those text messages in no way prove he didn't do it.

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There is a defendant in this too, right? How is his credibility?

Has he ever sexually assaulted a woman on video at a public parade?

Does he flaunt laws by speeding at 100 mph?

Has he been accused of a violent outburst in public recently?

I have serious concerns about his character.

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1 hour ago, skippyx said:

There is a defendant in this too, right? How is his credibility?

Has he ever sexually assaulted a woman on video at a public parade?

Does he flaunt laws by speeding at 100 mph?

Has he been accused of a violent outburst in public recently?

I have serious concerns about his character.

Of course you would your an Eagles fan. He has issues that he has to address no doubt about it. 100 MPH yea ok you better have more then that. How many people on this board haven't been in a car going 100 mph?? 

The parade was a bad choice on his part and he has to correct that. The DJ at the bar has come up several time and they have witnesses that claim he wasn't involved.  

Her character is an even bigger  problem and he deserves a fair hearing. Have you even thought about if he was innocent and the league could plaster him as a woman beater even though the law says he isn't. How does the NFL have that much power? 

All team players and fans should be worried about this. Sooner or latter an Eagles player will be in his place and the NFL will be able to punish him and label him as they see fit without proper proof.

 

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14 minutes ago, gch said:

Of course you would your an Eagles fan. He has issues that he has to address no doubt about it. 100 MPH yea ok you better have more then that. How many people on this board haven't been in a car going 100 mph?? 

The parade was a bad choice on his part and he has to correct that. The DJ at the bar has come up several time and they have witnesses that claim he wasn't involved.  

Her character is an even bigger  problem and he deserves a fair hearing. Have you even thought about if he was innocent and the league could plaster him as a woman beater even though the law says he isn't. How does the NFL have that much power? 

All team players and fans should be worried about this. Sooner or latter an Eagles player will be in his place and the NFL will be able to punish him and label him as they see fit without proper proof.

 

The NFL is a business and a job they can do anything they see fit that protects their companies image. It's just like in other company in that regard

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2 hours ago, gch said:

Eagles player someday blah blah blah 

 

Man you keep doing this. Its a Zeke suspended thread. The Eagles organization has nothing to do with this conversation. You keep bringing them up, which to me means you cannot talk about Zeke in a positive light on his own merits. 

 

My kids do this all the time when they get in trouble. The "but he or she did this" BS. They are 10 and 7. 

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Zeke and his team are going to attack her.

Being vengeful about being abused and discarded does not disqualify someone from having a story to tell.

Zeke has very publicly been a gigantic turd in many aspects of his life including disrespecting women, breaking laws, and violence.

The moron did all of this WHILE BEING INVESTIGATED!

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I'm not getting into this any more  it will come out at some point and we will know then if he gets 6 games. enjoy the season it will be fun to watch.  

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The sad part is that the ANALysts still treat him as a superstar when his behavior should make him a pariah.

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11 hours ago, gch said:

Of course you would your an Eagles fan. He has issues that he has to address no doubt about it. 100 MPH yea ok you better have more then that. How many people on this board haven't been in a car going 100 mph?? 

 

Umm, probably most of us

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13 hours ago, gch said:

Of course you would your an Eagles fan. He has issues that he has to address no doubt about it. 100 MPH yea ok you better have more then that. How many people on this board haven't been in a car going 100 mph?? 

The parade was a bad choice on his part and he has to correct that. The DJ at the bar has come up several time and they have witnesses that claim he wasn't involved.  

Her character is an even bigger  problem and he deserves a fair hearing. Have you even thought about if he was innocent and the league could plaster him as a woman beater even though the law says he isn't. How does the NFL have that much power? 

All team players and fans should be worried about this. Sooner or latter an Eagles player will be in his place and the NFL will be able to punish him and label him as they see fit without proper proof.

 

its the whole point of all these little things .... Zeke seems to also be in some ish .   

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3 hours ago, paco said:

Umm, probably most of us

Yeah I have. Good thing for me I don't have a high profile public job and I am not under investigation from the entity I work for. Although if I did I would probably refrain from such tomfoolery.

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On ‎8‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 0:30 PM, Miller99 said:

Could be either but those text messages in no way prove he didn't do it.

Guilt must be proven, not innocence!!

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43 minutes ago, Sportsdude360 said:

Guilt must be proven, not innocence!!

That's why he isn't on trial. For some reason people forget that those rules don't apply to your employer. I mean regardless he put himself in this position. In February, 2016 she reported abuse as well. If he is innocent and a girl does that the first time then wouldn't you stop hanging out with her? He didn't, she reported it again. This puts his employer in a bad position especially after all the previous cases with other players. He is lucky they didn't put him on an exempt list while they investigated anyway. They did with AP.

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2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Cowboys starting offense looked great on the forst drive of the preseason just now.

Yep. That offensive line man...

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On 8/19/2017 at 6:01 PM, Sportsdude360 said:

Guilt must be proven, not innocence!!

Read the NFL Conduct Policy. The image of the NFL impacted whether guilty or not.

Think Big Ben. Not enough evidence to prove guilt but plenty of bad press because of the situation he was involved in.

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You know what would be funny (though I know it wouldn't happen)? Have the 6 game suspension upheld, Elliot then file a law suit like Brady did, in the hopes of playing while it's going on and the Commissioner placing him on the 'Commissioner's List', like he did with Hardy, until the matter is settled. Then, let that drag out until February only to have Elliot lose in court and the suspension take place during the first 6 games of 2018...

I would literally :lol::lol: 

 

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48 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

You know what would be funny (though I know it wouldn't happen)? Have the 6 game suspension upheld, Elliot then file a law suit like Brady did, in the hopes of playing while it's going on and the Commissioner placing him on the 'Commissioner's List', like he did with Hardy, until the matter is settled. Then, let that drag out until February only to have Elliot lose in court and the suspension take place during the first 6 games of 2018...

I would literally :lol::lol: 

 

Brady didn't file a law suit the league did. If that happened Roger would be fired. Believe me he makes what 50 million a year?

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9 minutes ago, gch said:

Brady didn't file a law suit the league did. If that happened Roger would be fired. Believe me he makes what 50 million a year?

 

Tom Brady officially files suit against the NFL

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/07/29/tom-brady-files-lawsuit-against-nfl/h8xeRXAKRSWx93RCnAFk2L/story.html

Tom Brady and his legal team have made it official — the Patriots’ star quarterback is suing the NFL.

Brady’s attorneys filed a petition to vacate an arbitration award in US District Court in Minneapolis on Wednesday evening, arguing that Brady’s four-game suspension violates binding rulings from the Adrian Peterson lawsuit earlier this year, "and gives the back of the hand to the fundamental arbitral principles concerning procedural fairness and arbitrator bias.”

Brady seeks to have his entire punishment overturned on the grounds that commissioner Roger Goodell was inherently biased in serving as the arbitrator of the appeal, and that Brady was given no notice on the severity of punishments given to him for his "non-cooperation” with the NFL’s investigation.

Brady was initially given a four-game suspension in May for being "generally aware” of a ball-deflation scheme perpetrated by members of the Patriots’ equipment staff, and Goodell upheld the decision.

"It’s completely against the essence of the CBA,” Jeffrey Kessler, Brady’s lead attorney and the outside counsel for the NFL Players Association, told the Globe in a telephone conversation late Wednesday. "We’ve long believed that a biased arbitrator was likely to yield a biased result, so I can say that we’re disappointed, but not entirely surprised.”

Brady was permitted to file the lawsuit anywhere in the country because the NFL does business in all 50 states, and he chose US District Court in Minneapolis, which generally has ruled in the union’s favor in several landmark cases over the years.

The case has initially been assigned to judge Richard Kyle, but the NFLPA filed the petition as a related case to the Peterson lawsuit against the NFL in the hopes that judge David Doty would also hear the Brady appeal. Doty ruled to vacate Peterson’s suspension in February, and he has ruled in the NFLPA’s favor many times over the years.

As a preventative measure, the NFL filed its own lawsuit in New York on Tuesday, asking a judge to affirm the league’s decision and attempting to force any potential Brady lawsuit to be heard in New York. The union and NFL will now battle over the location of the lawsuit — New York or Minnesota.

Brady filed the lawsuit on the eve of the first training camp practice of the Patriots’ 2015 season, and he requested a Sept. 4 deadline — for either a full judgment, or the issuance of an injunction to allow Brady to play for the Patriots until the lawsuit is decided. The Patriots’ first regular-season game is Sept. 10.

This is the second time Brady has sued the NFL, as he was one of 10 players to put his name on the union’s antitrust lawsuit during the 2011 lockout. But Kessler assured that Brady won’t miss any football time to deal with this suit.

"It will not be a diversion on his time in any way, shape or form,” Kessler said. "This is basically the lawyers arguing a legal issue. There’s no evidentiary hearing, there’s no trial, nothing like that.”

In its petition, Brady’s attorneys highlighted the Peterson case several times, and how the court ruled that the NFL’s "law of the shop under the CBA affords players advance notice of potential discipline.”

Kessler stressed that Brady had no notice that he could be held liable for being "generally aware” of someone else’s actions; that the NFL applied the league’s "competitive integrity policy” to punish Brady but that the policy pertains only to teams, and is never distributed to players; and no notice that Brady could be suspended for altering equipment or not cooperating with an investigation.

The NFLPA said in a statement that "no player in NFL history has served a suspension for ‘non-cooperation’ or ‘obstruction.’ And, in this case, the evidence is paper-thin.”

Brady’s attorneys cited the ruling from former NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue when he vacated the player suspensions in the Saints’ Bountygate scandal, stating, "There is no evidence of a record of past suspensions based purely on obstructing a league investigation.”

Brady also is suing the NFL on the grounds that Goodell was inherently partial, as was lead investigator Ted Wells, hired by the NFL as an "independent investigator.”

The lawsuit notes that "the purportedly independent Wells Report was edited by [Jeffrey] Pash, the NFL’s general counsel, before its public release.” The suit also notes that lawyers from Wells’s law form "actively participated as counsel for the NFL conducting direct and cross-examinations of witnesses.”

"True to form, Goodell’s award is little more than an exercise in rehashing the Wells Report, and making unfounded, provocative, and mystifying attacks on Brady’s integrity,” Brady’s attorneys wrote.

 

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21 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

 

Tom Brady officially files suit against the NFL

 

 

Ok so he did sue the league my bad but the league rushed to filed a suit before he did is what has been reported for the last two weeks. It's going to get interesting to watch for sure. 

My thoughts are if he commited DV then he would deserve that and more. But if he is innocent of the charges the has said then I can understand him fighting this in court. As it is now the league is saying he is an abuser and that label is something that he will have to live with if he did it or not. 

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ESPN has a report today that makes the statement as to why the players should be watching this appeal very closely. It could happen to any of them.

 

 

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36 minutes ago, gch said:

Ok so he did sue the league my bad but the league rushed to filed a suit before he did is what has been reported for the last two weeks. It's going to get interesting to watch for sure. 

Probably what you're thinking of is the appeal that the NFL filed after a judge nullified the suspension.

On July 28th, Goodell upheld the suspension after Brady filed his appeal of the suspension. On the 29th, Brady filed his suit. On September 3rd, the judge nullified Brady's suspension and the league then appealed that nullification.

This is where I'm getting those dates and events: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000492189/article/tom-brady-suspension-case-timeline

Of course none of that has anything to do with Elliot. I was just pointing out what any Eagles fan would view as an extremely amusing turn of events that would turn a 6 game suspension into 22 games missed. That's obviously not going to happen, but hey, one can hope... right? :whistle: 

I'd LOVE to see the Shango video on that happening... :lol: 

 

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2 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Probably what you're thinking of is the appeal that the NFL filed after a judge nullified the suspension.

On July 28th, Goodell upheld the suspension after Brady filed his appeal of the suspension. On the 29th, Brady filed his suit. On September 3rd, the judge nullified Brady's suspension and the league then appealed that nullification.

This is where I'm getting those dates and events: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000492189/article/tom-brady-suspension-case-timeline

Of course none of that has anything to do with Elliot. I was just pointing out what any Eagles fan would view as an extremely amusing turn of events that would turn a 6 game suspension into 22 games missed. That's obviously not going to happen, but hey, one can hope... right? :whistle: 

I'd LOVE to see the Shango video on that happening... :lol: 

 

That would be funny. I see what your talking about. 22 games would put JJ in his grave. 

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