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Did we end the Patriots dynasty?

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9 minutes ago, PhillyDan1969 said:

Actually they beat the Rams in 2002/2002, then they beat the Panthers in 2003/2004 and then got the repeat against the Eagles in 2004/2005!!!  So they won Super Bowl 36, 38, and 39 (Eagles).

Yeah I mixed up the years... But they still became a dynasty after defeating us... F them

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I don't know if it was so much Brady playing amazing as it was the Eagles defense just having an off day. They may have been top 5 all year, but they've had a few of those head scratcher games on defense. (Giants/Rams).

 

This was one of them. Brady was literally chucking them up in the air like ducks and they were still finding wide open WR's downfield. The NFC is a lot tougher, so if you asked me who'd I bet on getting back to the SB, I would probably bet the Patriots over the Eagles. Who will challenge the Patriots next year? Jaguars? Steelers? Patriots always have the Steelers numbers and this was the first year they stayed healthy offensively...except Brown toward the end. Usually Ben and Bell are banged up throughout the year. Jaguars could be that team, but I can't trust them. Falcons/Panthers/Saints/Vikings should all be tough next year. Rams finally got some playoff experience, so they should still be in the mix. Can Seattle miss the playoffs two years in a row? Rodgers will return hellbent on getting the Packers to the promise land. Maybe Zeke won't get suspended this year, and Dallas could find themselves in the mix. They usually do every other year, so this would be the year.

 

The NFC is such a pain in the a**.

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Meh they went to 8 super bowls and won 5 in less then 20 yrs. I guess if ending it after them doing all that makes you feel better then go for it

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won't know until the future.  I'm happy we won.  But seriously, I feel the Eagles, going all the way down the roster, were a much better team.  During the whole game I couldn't  help thinking....Foles is playing out of his mind, running game is going well, oline is dominating, Cooks is knocked out, Butler looks like he isn't playing...What the hell does it take to put this freakin team down?

Like really?  You need a far superior team, playing at their highest level with great coaches to even have a chance at beating the stupid New England Tom Brady's and gronk.

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17 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Then we ended the 'dynasty', if you accept that it even exists.

:smoke:

The overall success of New England speaks for itself.

How it speaks to each of us is open for interpretation. 

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2 minutes ago, Quiet Boy said:

:smoke:

The overall success of New England speaks for itself.

How it speaks to each of us is open for interpretation. 

A Dynasty has always been defined by Super Bowl victories. Win 1, you're not a dynasty. Win 2 in a 4 or 5 year span, you're not a dynasty. Win 3 in a 4 or 5 year span, and then you can begin using that term. Win 2 over a 12 or 13 year span? Not my definition of a dynasty.

I know that what I think doesn't fit the media's view and the media influences the masses. So the new definition of a dynasty apparently does mean winning 2 over a 12 or 13 year span. That's not saying that they haven't been the most successful franchise in the past 18 years, though there were some shady happenings that gave them much of that success and when I replace Goodell, I plan on fixing that situation. There will be a trophy confiscation operation on day 2 of my reign. :devil:

 

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I mean the Patriots arent as good as they make them out to be their Superbowl record since 2000 is a 5-4. And yes like what someone just said above me, they havent had a

dynasty.

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I've always thought that, in his heart, Brady is an immature loser. You learn more about how people act when they lose versus how they act when they win, and Brady tends to act like a child when things don't go his way. Now, Mr. "Don't Even Think about Another QB I'm Going to Beat Father Time and Play until I'm 50" suddenly doesn't seem to know if he wants to play next year, probably because he can't face the world after losing the Super Bowl. I guess the going got tough for once and he can't take the heat. Brady might be the greatest QB of all time, but he sure has one of the sh****est attitudes, if you ask me. That loss in 2004 stung, but I think I'll completely get over it if, in the end, Philly destroys the Evil Empire.

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Sources: Tom Brady has yet to commit to playing '18 season for Pats

Even those who expect him to play know there are circumstances that do not make it automatic that he will return.

"I believe he's going to be there," another person who knows Brady told ESPN. "However, having said that, we're dealing with a human being. Things can change. But I do believe he will be playing."

There also are questions about the future of Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski, who has not attended the opening week of the team's offseason workout program.

Brady also was not present for the start of New England's offseason program, and he's not expected to take part much, if at all. It's not the first time he has missed part of the offseason program; it also happened in 2008, 2009 and 2010.

The five-time Super Bowl champion and three-time NFL MVP is planning to spend more time this offseason with body coach Alex Guerrero. Brady has talked about wanting to play until he is 45, and the Patriots believed in him so much that they traded quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo to the San Francisco 49ers last October.

While Brady stays away -- he was in Qatar over the weekend -- New England is carrying on without him. Even in the seemingly unlikely event that Brady were to retire this offseason, New England's plans at the quarterback position would not be radically altered.

A lack of clarity from Brady won't change New England's need at the position, but it could affect how aggressive the Patriots will be in acquiring one. The Patriots have been examining options in next week's draft, and many around the league believe New England -- armed with two first-round picks and two second-round picks -- will use one of its high picks on a quarterback.

Other than Brady, the only other quarterback on the Patriots' active roster is veteran Brian Hoyer, who signed a three-year deal with the team after the trade deadline last season.

 

 

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Clickbait? I think so. 

As for whether we ended the dynasty? I did at first think so... But now I'm not so sure. In fact I think the moves made by most AFC teams will help the Pats once again get back to the AFC championship game. 

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17 minutes ago, Dawkins 20 said:

Once the season begins Brady and Gronk will be there and they'll be on cruise control until the AFCCG.

You gotta wonder if Brady's waiting for Gronk to make up his mind.  If his favorite target retires, maybe he will, too?

 

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2 minutes ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

You gotta wonder if Brady's waiting for Gronk to make up his mind.  If his favorite target retires, maybe he will, too?

 

It would be great if it happened after the draft and the Pats didn't take a QB.

I bet they would still make the playoffs though. Belichick won 11 games with a mediocre Matt Cassel under center.

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3 hours ago, Dawkins 20 said:

It would be great if it happened after the draft and the Pats didn't take a QB.

I bet they would still make the playoffs though. Belichick won 11 games with a mediocre Matt Cassel under center.

I am not so sure they are as successful now as in the past without Brady. I don't think guys are "all in" for Belichick like they have been in the past. I have no real proof other than the stories I read online though. Some reason I'm almost as excited to see the Patriots season as the Eagles. Probably because I live in CT and I love the taste of Pats and Giants tears. 

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6 hours ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

You gotta wonder if Brady's waiting for Gronk to make up his mind.  If his favorite target retires, maybe he will, too?

 

It's a nice idea for us and the rest of the NFL but I really don't see it bud. He's going to come back because he's not going to want his last nfl appearance to be the SB loss and to go out that way. He'll want a big fuss made. 

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On 4/19/2018 at 10:14 PM, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

It's a nice idea for us and the rest of the NFL but I really don't see it bud. He's going to come back because he's not going to want his last nfl appearance to be the SB loss and to go out that way. He'll want a big fuss made. 

Yeah Brady will be back.

I agree - I'm calling it a Dynasty. Since Brady started a game for Belichick, in 16 years, New England have been to 8 Super Bowls and won 5 of them. They have also been to 7 straight championship games.  In a game which is completely tailored towards parity - that is incredible.

The dynasty will be over when Brady retires/starts declining in all likelihood. Too early to say that at the moment.

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20 hours ago, ManchesterEagle said:

I agree - I'm calling it a Dynasty. Since Brady started a game for Belichick, in 16 years, New England have been to 8 Super Bowls and won 5 of them. They have also been to 7 straight championship games.  In a game which is completely tailored towards parity - that is incredible.

Spot on buddy. Ultimately they are the standard that we should all be thriving towards. They are what we should be trying to elumate. Well except the cheating that is. 

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