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2 hours ago, stine said:

Why all this talk about expanding to London? It is not logistically probable. I see all these flight times for the division. But what about flight times to the west coast teams? That would place a tremendous wear and tear on the London team from travel alone! It isn't going to happen. It is one thing to have any team play 1 game there, but a whole different thing to have a team deal with 8 flights per year of over 6 hours each.

Stine,  correct!    Flight from London to Bostn is 7:30 .. the shortest flight. (not even a divison opponent)    The west Coast brings is like 10 plus hours... Indy was the longest due to no direct flight, but I assume would come back to around 9 to 10 hours if there was?   You got the point though ... but I'm just making it even further... it's not a mere 6 hour flight here.  3 additional hours ... 9 hours to the nearest divisional opponent.  

When you need to travel both to and from ... there is a big difference between ... 3 hour flights to 6 hour flights ...and 6 hour flights to 9 hour flights.  Changing time zones ... not just our normal 3 hour difference from East to West ... but 5 to 8 hours from USA to London.   It's not that simple... no matter how much ... MONEY TALKS!  

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Who do we like in the 2021 draft?   Are we in position to get that guy?   I wish I had this knowlege of knowing where all these guys are going to be drafted already.... also knowing all the other players who may or may not step up.  Which players may remain in college ...etc.  How our roster will look like before the draft ...etc.    Long ways away, we have a SB to win first.   

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As far as RB .... Sanders will be under contract... I also assume we give Clement the 2nd round tender, so he should be here too.   That's two steps ahead of where we were going into 2017 draft.   With all the picks and UDFAs, yeah, I assume we get a RB or two.    Thinking with pick 32 they keep their trend .... OL, DL ... small shot at WR & CB.   

One thing that will be curious... the trade value of the late first round picks next year.   With the new CBA coming, might be extra value there for that 5th year option?   But that's next year.   2019 is about to start baby... HOLLA!   

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Not to keep pushing something that isn’t happening right away anyway but....we had two west coast road games back to back and stayed out there and didn’t fly home. I think a London team could  get special scheduling help and get back to back road games often to counter travel times. They maybe even could come up with a US practice facility setup.

  But I think expansion of international games is where we are at right now. I expect a Berlin annual game coming. Maybe get a Japan and Australia game in(talk about flight time). It’s more than just concessions and ticket sales at a single game. It’s growing the brand.

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2 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

One of the things the players want in the new CBA is no 5th yr option

I’m sure they want to dispose of the franchise tag as well.

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Those 2 things and a bigger cut of the take. Just how much that changes the game we'll see.

As far as overseas games, they will continue, most likely increase and teams based in other countries will eventually happen. I will continue it's stealing money from the pockets of working people here.

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4 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

One of the things the players want in the new CBA is no 5th yr option

Right, that's why next year ... with the unknown going forward, we could see the last year of the 5th year options for 1st round picks!   

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2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not to keep pushing something that isn’t happening right away anyway but....we had two west coast road games back to back and stayed out there and didn’t fly home. I think a London team could  get special scheduling help and get back to back road games often to counter travel times. They maybe even could come up with a US practice facility setup.

  But I think expansion of international games is where we are at right now. I expect a Berlin annual game coming. Maybe get a Japan and Australia game in(talk about flight time). It’s more than just concessions and ticket sales at a single game. It’s growing the brand.

Correct, as I brought up in my original post .... that would have to be an option to avoid a long flight back ..... now say they use that once ..... 6 more road games to go.    So lets say "scheduling" works with them to do it 3 more times to the 8 road games .... so they have to come over for 4 two week road trips?    You are a free agent... you want to sign with a team that has to prepare 4 times at a different practice facilty and spend all that time away from your own bed/gym/cafeteria/home/ practice field ....etc?    Still you have a minimum of 4 long flights to the first game...and 4 long flights back home ... not to mention travel to the 4 other games.    What happens on a Thursday night game?  Regardless of where it is?   

I believe the movie Roller Ball had teams in a league from across the globe...  remember when the Tokyo team got Moon Pie with that shot to the head and left him in a coma... gave James Kahn that extra motivation similar to Rocky being able to realistically absorb repeated 1700lbs of pressure shots to the head from Drago after Apollo was killed.   Great stuff for fiction.  

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CBA issues..

1.  share of the profits
2.  guaranteed contracts
3.  Commish control of suspensions
4.  5th year options / length of contracts to where rookies can become FAs
5.  Franchise tags
6.  18 game schedules
7.  Health benefits etc. for current and retired players

I think it starts with the players getting a bigger share first.  Brings the cap up.     I hope they don't go to 18 games.   I'm not a fan of the guaranteed contracts simply because I think the game will suffer with more guys playing just for the check then not performing once they get paid.  The signing bonuses put instant money in their pocket that gives them more than 1 year pay.     I'm all for better health benefits, and any other benefit for the retired players.   I don't care about hte commish having total control of the suspension... he is the commish and is team neutral which is the idea.   It's not players vs owners for me when it comes to fines and suspensions, it's treat the player from all teams the same.    Franchise tags/5th year options ... IDK, I think the team that drafts you need to be able to control your rights as they develop you.   I'm ok with the 4 years... maybe allow just one franchise tag year per player.  Or ... somehow work it in where the player can get paid more from the current team without counting against the cap, this would allow team control via a sign and trade .... or else the player can go play somewhere else if that other team chooses to pay him and have it count all vs the cap?     IDK, I like players to be able to play where they want, but the teams that draft them should have some kind of control/compensation if they leave.  

I'd probably change the comp pick system to where it only counts if you had that player under contract for 3 or 4 years.   The idea was for teams losing their drafted players to free agency.... not this one year signing crap that New England has mastered.    If they change this, those 2nd tier guys would all be signed earlier.   Too many games being played to bend the rules...etc.    Then like you guys say, just make the draft 8 rounds, with a few legit comp picks thrown in, not the full 32.  

I'll throw another one in..... a player with 10 years of service ... take $1 mil away from his cap hit.   Dude signs for league minimum plus the extra $1mil.   This way these guys who can legit play get first crack at jobs over the UDFA guys because teams won't have to use extra cap space for them.   The league needs continuity, while the 22 year olds are better athletes ... the 32 year olds know how to play the game.  Teams like SF and Washington used these experienced older vets in the 80s/90s to keep their team playing at a high level... the play was less sloppy IMO.  

Anything that leads to more continuity with players being able to stay on one team longer is better for the sport.  Familiarity with a system, playing longer with the same guys ...etc.   Leads to less mistakes.  The game and the fans benefit from that.    

 

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If you get rid of the franchise tag that would be huge in changing the landscape. Then guys wouldn’t have to sign for as long term as possible. They could sign a two year contract to see how things work out. And they would know they become a free agent. 

 As far as the compensatory picks: just get rid of it. It’s crap. No need. Add an extra round to the draft. If you get rid of comp picks then these vet free agents can all get jobs without losing several options because they are afraid to lose a draft pick. And they have full steam of a competitive market that way without eliminating potential suitors.

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6 hours ago, joemas6 said:

As far as RB .... Sanders will be under contract... I also assume we give Clement the 2nd round tender, so he should be here too.   That's two steps ahead of where we were going into 2017 draft.   With all the picks and UDFAs, yeah, I assume we get a RB or two.    Thinking with pick 32 they keep their trend .... OL, DL ... small shot at WR & CB.   

One thing that will be curious... the trade value of the late first round picks next year.   With the new CBA coming, might be extra value there for that 5th year option?   But that's next year.   2019 is about to start baby... HOLLA!   

Or the trade value could be crap because of a potential lockout and losing a year on the whole class.

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10 hours ago, joemas6 said:

As far as RB .... Sanders will be under contract... I also assume we give Clement the 2nd round tender, so he should be here too.   That's two steps ahead of where we were going into 2017 draft.   With all the picks and UDFAs, yeah, I assume we get a RB or two.    Thinking with pick 32 they keep their trend .... OL, DL ... small shot at WR & CB.   

One thing that will be curious... the trade value of the late first round picks next year.   With the new CBA coming, might be extra value there for that 5th year option?   But that's next year.   2019 is about to start baby... HOLLA!   

When I look at RB we got our guy of the future in Sanders why we spent a 2nd on him...Then we I look at how we have valued RBs before that we love to bargain pin shop for guys...Whether it is getting UDFA signing(where we have had some success), vet pickups(ie Blount), or trades (ie Ajayi, Howard, Sproles)....

Clement could easily see us tender him as well Big year for him I’m probably jumping the gun on him a bit in Scott but I have high hopes for him.

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14 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Who do we like in the 2021 draft?   Are we in position to get that guy?   I wish I had this knowlege of knowing where all these guys are going to be drafted already.... also knowing all the other players who may or may not step up.  Which players may remain in college ...etc.  How our roster will look like before the draft ...etc.    Long ways away, we have a SB to win first.   

Sure,but this is the LULL time of year,so we look at potential draft targets for lack of anything football related

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Still have openings in my PRIVATE Fantasy league.Me,my daughter,her hubby,my ex's son and his wife, and my GD joined this year,a few peeps that have stayed in the last 14 years,but due to time constraints others had to bow out.There is a cheap trophy,so I am looking at 4 more teams I believe.It's a CBS league(wish they would adopt the Yahoo scoring) but it is what it is.My rules and set up  are different,scoring is different and more realistic,Bonus points for long plays and long kick FG's.We draft 17 rounds,so at the end you are really barrel scraping for your reserves.It' is NOT a PPR league.A flex player can be a TE or a WR,Defense and ST's can be 2 different teams,or the same if you like both.It's a tough league to win.If anyone wants an invite message me your name and email address.The D"s start at 22 pts,not 20,you lose points for points allowed,lose points for yards allowed(in increments)but you get an extra point for sacks and int's.So if you send me that info in messenger and I send an invite,you can review the rules and scoring.We do a LIVE online draft(not a draft party) which I will choose after all the teams are accounted for.Anyone with cahonies can join(I need a challenge!!!!) SO post up,go big or go home!!!!See if you got what it takes to take down the reigning champ Florida Frenzy(me).Please keep team names clean for my GD,she's only 9 but she knows her football.Be fun to see all you yahoos whining on fantasy days after I bludgeoned you last game HAHA BRAING IT!!!! The league will close at noon on 7/31.Our playoff starts a week earlier than normal as well.This allows 8 teams a shot at the trophy instead of the usual 4.The 4 top division winners go,the other 4 are determined by points scored,not by division record.In the event the PFF is the same,the team that gave up the least points goes.Draft is a snake draft.Draft order is RANDOM and done by the comp.I could be 1,I could be 12,I dont pick them.So if you want a challenging league get signed up

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ST scoring example.Your guy takes a KO at the GL and runs it back 100 yards.You get 10 points for yardage,1 point for the play being over 30 yards and the 6 point score.This one play could net you 17 fantasy points(plus whatever ST's points you can accumulate)and 19 points if they complete a 2 PT conversion.So,picking your ST's is an important part of draft day.In regular leagues they have DST combined and those points above don't get counted.So it's a fun league and more challenging

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We expect everyone there on draft day to hurl hype and insults HAHA.This is the most challenging league you will be in 

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9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Or the trade value could be crap because of a potential lockout and losing a year on the whole class.

Or... if there is a lockout, that means there is no actual season... thus not losing a year... you follow?  The second season would be 2022 instead of 2021. 

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10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If you get rid of the franchise tag that would be huge in changing the landscape. Then guys wouldn’t have to sign for as long term as possible. They could sign a two year contract to see how things work out. And they would know they become a free agent. 

 As far as the compensatory picks: just get rid of it. It’s crap. No need. Add an extra round to the draft. If you get rid of comp picks then these vet free agents can all get jobs without losing several options because they are afraid to lose a draft pick. And they have full steam of a competitive market that way without eliminating potential suitors.

Ham, I don't want the NFL to turn into the NBA.   The longer term the contract the better... or should I say the longer a player stays on one team the better.

Like I said with comp picks, I think it needs to be changed... we got a comp pick for Tate after he played like 6 games?  That's dumb.  The original idea of compensating teams who lose their draft picks to free agency is ok IMO.   Hicks should have been the one to count this year for us.   That could bring down the comp picks to a handful of legit picks.  The top free agents entering their 2nd contract and first real payday.   There won't be any sandbagging with those top players.   You are rightly concerned about guys like Wiz who teams waited to sign after the date so they wouldn't count.  Guys like Sendejo who could get cut...etc.   these are the ones that need to be eliminated.  

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19 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Who do we like in the 2021 draft?   Are we in position to get that guy?   I wish I had this knowlege of knowing where all these guys are going to be drafted already.... also knowing all the other players who may or may not step up.  Which players may remain in college ...etc.  How our roster will look like before the draft ...etc.    Long ways away, we have a SB to win first.   

  Speaking of next year's draft. When was the last time anyone can remember us having a stud at Mike? Bergey, Maybe Trot for a few years? Is it me or are the Eagles neglecting this position? Imagine a stud like Kuechly playing with our D-Line.... Or Wagner.... Not sure why this position is overlooked.

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If we were to pursue a Middle LB, 3 names to look at, not in any particular order: Dylan Moses - Alabama, Jacob Phillips - LSU and Shaquille Quarterman - Miami. I particularly like Phillips as I hear he has a high Football IQ. Anyway, Imagine our Defense with a Stud at LB. Who would be able to run at us?

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