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7 minutes ago, Procus said:

And how about if minors weren't involved?  Are you ready to nevertheless convict him as a human trafficker? 

Exactly, leave him alone.  He didn't do anything wrong.

Except break the law? The dude is a billionaire so it's not like he couldn't afford to go to a place where it's legal.

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43 minutes ago, Procus said:

And how about if minors weren't involved?  Are you ready to nevertheless convict him as a human trafficker? 

Exactly, leave him alone.  He didn't do anything wrong.

At the end of the day what he did is illegal whether you think it’s a big deal or not.

The fact that victims of human trafficking are involved and could possibly include minors makes it worse. 

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1 hour ago, pisceschica said:

At the end of the day what he did is illegal whether you think it’s a big deal or not.

The fact that victims of human trafficking are involved and could possibly include minors makes it worse. 

Apparently the law flies out the window in the eyes of most of society.

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15 hours ago, Jeep_Man said:

I agree with your sentiment, this really is a non issue, only issue is that Rub n TuG places are not licensed brothels so sexual acts there are illegal. The real issue is he is Robert KRaft...

I think in most places prostitution is about as illegal as pot. If there are minors or defacto slavery involved that's another matter but as long as the participants are not being coerced and are of legal age, police have better places to use their resources. I think Canada has the right perspective, if girls want to make a few $$$ to pay college expenses and are not under 'management' by a pimp they're legally safe. At least that's my understanding.

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On 2/22/2019 at 10:41 AM, Havenless said:

This is going to be blown up to be a way bigger deal than it is. Jim Irsay got busted a few years with drugs and a crazy amount of money to buy huge amounts of them. Kraft was having relations most of us expected him to be having in his private life, he just paid someone for it which is illegal. 

Embarassing? Oh yeah. Conspired with a sex trafficking ring? That’s a stretch.

Agree.  It’s misdemeanor soliciting.  I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt for now that he is didn’t know the conditions these women were under and is just a cheap and naive old rich man.  I hope I’m right.  

Before I read the article it wouldn’t like he had a connection with sex trafficking. That really is a stretch. 

Why not pay for a top rated escort from a well established and Discrete service (through a lawyer type buffer)?  Just horrible  judgement 

the bigger story though is that it’s pretty clear there are sick trafficking rings run like modern day slave camps right here the great USA and hopefully the fact that a name like kraft is public this will put the issue to the forefront where it belongs. 

This is a serious problem.  And it needs to be stopped at all cost.  

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On 2/22/2019 at 2:42 PM, Havenless said:

I wonder what his girlfriend thought when it was discovered that his playoff opponents weren’t the only ones who found him guilty of cheating.

Didn’t his girlfriend pump out some other dude’s kid, while Kraft and here were ‘together’?

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11 hours ago, SNOORDA said:

Agree.  It’s misdemeanor soliciting.  I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt for now that he is didn’t know the conditions these women were under and is just a cheap and naive old rich man.  I hope I’m right.  

Before I read the article it wouldn’t like he had a connection with sex trafficking. That really is a stretch. 

Why not pay for a top rated escort from a well established and Discrete service (through a lawyer type buffer)?  Just horrible  judgement 

the bigger story though is that it’s pretty clear there are sick trafficking rings run like modern day slave camps right here the great USA and hopefully the fact that a name like kraft is public this will put the issue to the forefront where it belongs. 

This is a serious problem.  And it needs to be stopped at all cost.  

You could look at it that way. But it's common knowledge those craphole massage parlors participate in human trafficking so by frequenting any of them there is a good chance you are supporting the practice. Ignorance is not innocent, whether considering the legality or morality.

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55 minutes ago, CountBlah said:

Didn’t his girlfriend pump out some other dude’s kid, while Kraft and here were ‘together’?

????

We still talking about Brady?

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On 2/23/2019 at 12:08 AM, McNabbIsGone said:

The entire episode is embarrassing, unseemly, disgusting and, frankly,

unbelievable . . . given the lofty position this man holds. Good luck trying to prove

he knew these girls were under age or sex slaves. Unless the idiot said something

on camera that proves it the dude's just trying to get his knob polished . . . he doesn't

need to know any of that. 

Given the hatred I have for his team and his HC it's hard for me to feel sorry for him.

 

I thought ignorance wasn't an excuse to break the law? Or I guess that just applies to us common folk, lol...

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On 2/22/2019 at 2:04 PM, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Im just going to leave this post right here

 

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After a day of thinking about it, I'm onto the 2019 season. If Kraft knew they were slaves (honestly, I think he did but feel free to disagree) then screw him. However, I only care about football with my Patriots. Ring 7 here we come.

 

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15 hours ago, SNOORDA said:

Agree.  It’s misdemeanor soliciting.  I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt for now that he is didn’t know the conditions these women were under and is just a cheap and naive old rich man.  I hope I’m right.  

Before I read the article it wouldn’t like he had a connection with sex trafficking. That really is a stretch. 

Why not pay for a top rated escort from a well established and Discrete service (through a lawyer type buffer)?  Just horrible  judgement 

the bigger story though is that it’s pretty clear there are sick trafficking rings run like modern day slave camps right here the great USA and hopefully the fact that a name like kraft is public this will put the issue to the forefront where it belongs. 

This is a serious problem.  And it needs to be stopped at all cost.  

The country actually has been cracking down on this. In addition, sites like Craigslist and Backpage have also been sanctioned hard with their promotion of "services" regarding certain acts from individuals or entities.

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On 2/22/2019 at 9:37 PM, Procus said:

Lotsa jokes are being made about this, but what did Kraft do that is so terrible?  He's a widower. He went to a rub and tuck for a massage and a happy ending.  Does not deserve to have his named dragged across the mud for that.

I hate it when dudes break the law then their names get dragged through the mud, i mean really what happened to the days when one could crime monger with nary a peep😒

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On 2/22/2019 at 4:09 PM, VeeMak said:

This story will not have a happy ending...

I see what you did there😉

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On 2/23/2019 at 1:47 PM, pisceschica said:

At the end of the day what he did is illegal whether you think it’s a big deal or not.

The fact that victims of human trafficking are involved and could possibly include minors makes it worse. 

Spare me the faux outrage.  He was solicited for a sex act and used bad judgment.  You do not know who solicited him or what her situation was, or the circumstances, but boy are you quick to throw this guy under the bus without knowing all the facts.  The majority of those who are piling on are doing so because he's the owner of the hated Patriots.

Question for you - what's you position on people who are in the United States illegally? 

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What he did was illegal, how severe it is is up probably very opinion based person to person. But at the end of the day it doesn't change that it was illegal. And whether we believe it to be a big deal or not, it will be treated as one in the media.

Personally I think he is incredibly dumb, he's too rich to use cheap services like that. Out of the 32 owners, I'm sure the majority of them have been with paid escorts at some point in their lives and careers, probably a few of them with some right now.  Kraft just got caught.

I guess you don't get super rich by constantly paying for high quality talent lol, maybe that was his thinking.

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12 hours ago, Procus said:

Spare me the faux outrage.  He was solicited for a sex act and used bad judgment.  You do not know who solicited him or what her situation was, or the circumstances, but boy are you quick to throw this guy under the bus without knowing all the facts.  The majority of those who are piling on are doing so because he's the owner of the hated Patriots.

Question for you - what's you position on people who are in the United States illegally? 

Prostitution is illegal you seem to keep forgetting this FACT.  It doesn’t matter who solicited who/human trafficking or not, it’s an illegal act. I don’t know how solicitation comes into play when he went out of his way to visit this parlor, especially if he went there more than once :lol:

I don’t how you got the impression of ‘faux outrage’  🤨

I already stated in this thread that while illegal prostitution, I see nothing wrong with it amongst consenting adults. But the fact that his activities came light to result after a human trafficking sting make it worse. Which means there is a HIGH probability that the woman/women he was with did it against their will.  

Illegal immigration is no relevant to this. 

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45 minutes ago, pisceschica said:

Prostitution is illegal you seem to keep forgetting this FACT.  It doesn’t matter who solicited who/human trafficking or not, it’s an illegal act. I don’t know how solicitation comes into play when he went out of his way to visit this parlor, especially if he went there more than once :lol:

I don’t how you got the impression of ‘faux outrage’  🤨

I already stated in this thread that while illegal prostitution, I see nothing wrong with it amongst consenting adults. But the fact that his activities came light to result after a human trafficking sting make it worse. Which means there is a HIGH probability that the woman/women he was with did it against their will.  

Illegal immigration is no relevant to this. 

There are plenty of things that are illegal.  Plenty. 

Illegal immigration was brought up to expose the hypocrisy of those who are outraged over a rub and tug because it is illegal, but are not outraged over the stay of aliens in this country  when it is illegal.  Given your response, I suspect you are one of those hypocrites, but I invite you to prove me wrong by expressing your outrage over such illegal status.

 

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2 hours ago, Northern Green Wings said:

What he did was illegal, how severe it is is up probably very opinion based person to person. But at the end of the day it doesn't change that it was illegal. And whether we believe it to be a big deal or not, it will be treated as one in the media.

Personally I think he is incredibly dumb, he's too rich to use cheap services like that. Out of the 32 owners, I'm sure the majority of them have been with paid escorts at some point in their lives and careers, probably a few of them with some right now.  Kraft just got caught.

I guess you don't get super rich by constantly paying for high quality talent lol, maybe that was his thinking.

Of all the options this multi billionaire had in Jupiter, Florida, one of the wealthiest cities in the country, he chose this one.

He could’ve had a masseuse come to his home/hotel suite or gone to an upscale day spa that other wealthy individuals frequent  

Instead he chose massage parlor at a ‘regular people’ strip mall that just happened to under surveillance for prostitution/human trafficking. Anyone is crazy is they think he didn’t go there to solicit sex :wacko:

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