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2019 Hard Knocks - Who gets it this season?

2019 Hard Knocks  

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  1. 1. Who do you want to see on Hard Knocks for 2019?

    • The Lions
      0
    • The 49ers
      1
    • The Redskins
      10
    • The Giants
      9
    • The Raiders
      26
    • Other
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The teams that can be forced to take it are:

1. The Lions

2. The 49ers

3. The Redskins

4. The Giants

5. The Raiders

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It's gotta be the Raiders right? The Gruden power dynamic has to be the more interesting storylines here. Plus, how does the team respond with the picks from the Mack/Cooper trades?

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Raiders or Giants made the most sense.  Raiders for reasons noted above & Giants because it's New York.

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Please be Washington. Please be Washington. Please be Washington. Please be Washington. Please be Washington. Please be Washington. Please be Washington. Please be Washington. Please be Washington. Please be Washington. Please be Washington. Please be Washington. 

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Which team as the most compelling storyline? The Raiders have Gruden and the possibility of having the Carr towed away. The 49ers have Garoppolo coming back off his ACL. The Giants have what will likely be Eli's final season. The Lions have... the Lions have... I don't know what the Lions have. The Redskins have... well, I guess the same thing the Lions have.

I guess if I had to pick, based on bias, I'd have to go with either the Giants or Redskins, since the average winning percentage of Hard Knocks teams (for their Hard Knocks season) is .478.

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I don't want to see the Redskins I know that. Niners could be good depending on how they do in the draft and FA... I expect them to be busy. 

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2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I don't want to see the Redskins I know that. Niners could be good depending on how they do in the draft and FA... I expect them to be busy. 

I think you are discounting just how behind the times they are.  That alone should be good schadenfreude.   Shanahan had to BEG Snyder to get an indoor facility.  Snyder gave him a bubble.

 

They have since moved from Ashburn to Richmond.  Last year they were missing practices because of lightening.  Why?  No indoor fields or a bubble at their new site in Richmond.  Strange since the summertime isn't known for heavy rain and lightening :roll: 

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R-Words battle the Richmond elements at training camp

RICHMOND, Va. — The Washington R-Words won’t have another afternoon walk-through canceled this year, but only because they don’t have any more walk-throughs scheduled.

Monday’s afternoon portion of practice — a walk-through with no helmets or pads — was canceled due to the threat of lightning in the area. The day before, the R-Words got in less than half of their walk-through, scheduled for 4:40 p.m. to 6 p.m., under a menacing gray cloud before some approaching thunder and lightning brought them inside early.

Bon Secours Washington R-Words Training Facility here in Richmond does not have a "bubble” or indoor practice field.

Coach Jay Gruden said before Monday’s practice that the R-Words were "on pace to get everything in.”

"We’ve missed a couple of walk-throughs and one we had at the hotel, just short yardage goal line, which was OK,” Gruden said. "And then [Sunday’s walk-through], we got half of it in. We missed the two-minute portion.”

Gruden then made up for that by having the R-Words run two-minute drills at the tail end of Monday’s morning session, in helmets and shoulder pads. Morning practices tended to end by 11:30 this summer, but the R-Words went until noon to make up for what they’d missed.

Still, it could be worse. Gruden shifted the R-Words‘ schedule this year so nine of their 15 training camp practices began at 9:45 a.m. instead of 3 p.m. This was partly to give his players more time to recover in hopes of avoiding needless injuries and partly to avoid showers that more commonly happen in the afternoon, the coach said Monday.

"I think I am pretty much a genius,” Gruden said, tongue in cheek, "because if I kept it in the afternoon we’d have to miss a lot of practice because of the rain, right? That was the other part of it. We wanted to miss the afternoon rain showers and lightning.”

July and August weather mean not only thunder and lightning, but also heat and humidity. Guards Kyle Kalis and Tyler Catlina were both treated for heat-related ailments Sunday, and Monday’s practice was arguably the hottest of the summer.

"You’re still going to have some dehydration issues because they [have not been] playing in this heat which we’ve had,” Gruden said. "You know, it’s hard to gauge. I don’t know if we’ve had improvement in the recovery process or not, but I’d like to think we’ve had.”

Unlike Bon Secours, R-Words Park in Ashburn, Virginia, has a bubble. The Washington Times reported this month that some Richmond officials are unhappy with the current partnership with the team, so it is not out of the question that the team brings its training camp back to Ashburn after 2020.

 

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This weeks Hard Knocks with the R-words has been canceled due to a light drizzle.

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Redskins.  I am fascinated to watch this train wreck in slow mo.  A divided locker room between Colt McCoy and Case Keenum?  C'mon!  We haven't seen that kind of disenchanted slurping since Paris Hilton's sex tape!

 

Anyways they should save Raiders for the inaugural season in Vegas.  Gruden has a 10 year contract what's the rush?  And by that time we can see Jay Gruden for his 2nd tour on the show.

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2 hours ago, mikemack8 said:

It’ll definitely be the Raiders now that AB is there

If they get LeVeon too then we can go ahead and close the thread.

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Any thoughts on this, now that the Draft has been completed?

If the Cardinals hadn't hired a new coach this off season, I think they might have gotten it forced upon them. But Chucky will probably be the choice, just for the 'entertainment' value that he would bring.

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On 5/1/2019 at 3:58 PM, hcs3 said:

They'll probably do the Raiders next year.

That's a valid point. It can go either way. 

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It's got to be the Raiders:  Gruden. Mayock. AB, 3 first-round draft picks, 4 players in the first 2 rounds .... It's the last season in Oakland, so they're playing with that weird dynamic in the city. They are so many good storylines now, I don't think they hold the Raiders until next season. Who knows what might happen? (Do they make the playoffs this season so they are ineligible for Hard Knocks? Fire Gruden and get a new coach? Who knows?)

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49ers reportedly won't be on 'Hard Knocks,' leaving only four eligible teams

The Giants, Raiders, Lions, and Washington are the remaining teams

 

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3 hours ago, toolg said:

It's got to be the Raiders

I'd think so too, but the Redskins just got Haskins, so they might find that to be a 'good' storyline to follow. I don't, but they might. They may also find the Giants appealing, with the thought that this is Eli's final season. But aside from that, I don't know that there's any other 'storylines' there worth the production.

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On 5/14/2019 at 8:37 AM, toolg said:

It's got to be the Raiders:  Gruden. Mayock. AB, 3 first-round draft picks, 4 players in the first 2 rounds .... It's the last season in Oakland, so they're playing with that weird dynamic in the city. They are so many good storylines now, I don't think they hold the Raiders until next season. Who knows what might happen? (Do they make the playoffs this season so they are ineligible for Hard Knocks? Fire Gruden and get a new coach? Who knows?)

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Raiders and Giants seem like the two that would be most interesting of the four. Raiders seem like a perfect fit.

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Ranking NFL's four likeliest 'Hard Knocks' participants by watchability

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2019/05/15/hard-knocks-watchability-ranking-hbo-raiders-redskins-giants-lions/3670198002/

The NFL and HBO should soon reveal which team NFL Films will document for this summer's installment of the training camp series "Hard Knocks," though you might be surprised by how shallow the pool of options appears to be.

Often loathe to incur additional media obligations or — gasp! — potentially provide a competitive advantage while the cameras roll sunrise to sunset, the league's 32 clubs seem to avoid a "Hard Knocks" hitch like a running back who runs a 4.7 40-yard dash.

As the struggle increased to find willing participants for the series, which debuted in 2001, the NFL implemented measures in 2013 that provided ready-made "Hard Knocks" exemptions. Teams would not have to take part if they had a first-year head coach, had reached the playoffs in either of the previous two seasons or had been on the show in the past decade. Since then, Atlanta (in 2014) is the only team to be featured despite meeting one of those conditions.

Giants QB Eli Manning (10) and Raiders QB Derek Carr appear to be among 2019's "Hard Knocks" finalists.

Giants QB Eli Manning (10) and Raiders QB Derek Carr appear to be among 2019's "Hard Knocks" finalists.

 (Photo: Cary Edmondson, USA TODAY Sports)

Per NBC Sports Bay Area, one of this year's five "eligible" franchises, the 49ers, will not be on "Hard Knocks," not very surprising given previously stated objections from coach Kyle Shanahan and general manager John Lynch.

So barring a voluntary wild card, that leaves four teams from which to choose, which we'll rank from least appealing to most:

4. Detroit Lions: "Hard Knocks" tends to reveal unexpected personalities every year, but this team has little in the way of star power on the surface. Coach Matt Patricia, a product of The Patriot Way and a Bill Belichick acolyte, isn't likely to serve up many insights or juicy sound bites. Detroit's outlook also seems especially bleak given every other team in the NFC North projects as a solid playoff prospect. Even if there is an intriguing subplot as quarterback Matthew Stafford's wife, Kelly, recovers from brain surgery, it's hardly fair to ask the couple to pull back the curtain during such an emotional and uncertain time.

3. New York Giants: Yes, they just drafted QB Daniel Jones in the first round, but he seems very unlikely to unseat Eli Manning in training camp, and neither is going to be confused for a quote machine. Manning's penchant for pranks is nice but would only fill so much airtime. Saquon Barkley may be the NFL's next great back, but he's also not one to stir the drink. The guys who are gone — Odell Beckham and Landon Collins — offer the most compelling narrative, but you know how much players just love to expound on former teammates. And transparency isn't GM Dave Gettleman's forte, so hard to envision him as a value-added presence.

2. Washington Redskins: Their quarterback situation is attractive, first-rounder Dwayne Haskins likely to battle journeyman Case Keenum for the starting gig ... though vets Alex Smith and Colt McCoy might provide flavor as they recover from leg injuries, Smith's apparently leaving his career in jeopardy. This team also possesses a strong draft class (led by Haskins and fellow Round 1 choice Montez Sweat), a surefire Hall of Famer (Adrian Peterson), a loquacious free agent addition (Collins), a limelight-loving defender (Josh Norman), a second-year back (Derrius Guice) who didn't play as a rookie due to a knee injury, and a coach who seems to be on the hot seat (Jay Gruden). All things considered, decent option ... though we'll warn NFL Films now about the Virginia humidity given the 'Skins stage their training camp in Richmond.

1. Oakland Raiders: The only reason you wouldn't want the Silver & Black to be the choice in 2019 is that the franchise will likely provide even better "Hard Knocks" fodder a year from now in the midst of its Las Vegas relocation. (Antonio Brown on the Vegas Strip? Yes please.) But if HBO wants to pull the trigger now, we'd get to follow a revamped team — one that trains in California's wine country — following the addition of Brown and three first-rounders a year after coach Jon Gruden's disappointing return to the sideline. Gruden himself and rookie GM Mike Mayock constantly spin audio gold during interviews, though it would be interesting to compare whether Mayock's unscripted conversations could match Coach Chucky for color. Factor in good-natured quarterback Derek Carr, and this feels like a deserving clubhouse favorite.

 

 

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On 3/6/2019 at 3:54 PM, BKLYNYG said:

I hope it’s the Giants, but the Raiders will probably get it. 

I could see it being the Giants. HBO would love the "rise up in the face of adversity" angle, though. The Mina Kimes reaction would be in the pre-credits scene, fans would be booing, etc. It would do a lot for Daniel Jones' brand, too, so the Giants are probably on board. (I'm assuming he isn't as unlikable as Ryan Tannehill.)

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