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Tyreek Hill under investigation for beating his son

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Awful awful news if this is true. That kind of behaviour is absolutely unacceptable. I mean yeah you've got to discipline your kids but you do not do it this way. 

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8 hours ago, Utebird said:

This is a false narrative that blames victims for being abused.

This kind of thinking is prevalent in our society and is wrong and needs to be called out.

People of abuse are victims of that abuse and to judge the legitimacy of their abuse based on some rhetorical narrative is ignorant and damaging to those abused situations and lets abusers off the hook.

Victim blaming justifying minimizing helps no one😡

I may have missed it but where did anyone in thread let an abuser off the hook?

The general consensus in the thread is that spousal abuse (and abuse in general) is disgusting.

A stranger giving a general guess as to why a victim stays with an abuser is an ignorant assumption but it isn't victim blaming.

'She stayed so she deserves it' is an example of victim blaming. While 'she probably didn't have a place to go' is an example of a stranger making an ignorant assumption. Or am I missing something?

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Once again the NFL is proving as long as there’s not a video of something you are OK, the second Kareem Hunts  video came out the Chiefs cut bait.

This incident is way worse but because nobody has seen it the Chiefs are keeping him on the roster.

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5 hours ago, downundermike said:

 

This incident is way worse but because nobody has seen it the Chiefs are keeping him on the roster.

There has to be some sort of due process. He hasn’t been charged with anything yet and it isn’t clear how he was involved yet either as far I’ve seen. 

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13 hours ago, downundermike said:

Once again the NFL is proving as long as there’s not a video of something you are OK, the second Kareem Hunts  video came out the Chiefs cut bait.

This incident is way worse but because nobody has seen it the Chiefs are keeping him on the roster.

Isn’t he now with the Browns?  They should cut him and do a Ray Rice.  This guy needs help. 

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1 hour ago, 4XTHECHARM said:

Isn’t he now with the Browns?  They should cut him and do a Ray Rice.  This guy needs help. 

You're thinking of Kareem Hunt. Mike is talking about Tyreek Hill.

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On 3/15/2019 at 10:08 PM, vincent_NJG said:

As the father of a 3 year old boy, this is beyond sickening

Violence begets more violence, one way or another.

As the father of 4 grown children, three of whom are well-developed sons,

this person might want to consider what sort of violence he's perpetrating

in the future for his actions today. Paybacks can be a . . . thing to avoid.

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On 3/16/2019 at 5:41 PM, hcs3 said:

He drafted them.

You are correct

Hill lasted until he did in the draft because he was a scumbag.

  • KC did not get a steal, they got a talented monster

Randy Gregory was stupid enough to get busted for weed the week before the draft.

  • Dallas did not get a steal, they got a moron.
  • Like they did not get a steal by signing Greg Hardy

These are not cases of great GMs out-thinking everyone else. Its clowns gambling that they can hide bad activity or control uncontrollable people.

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I'll reserve judgment until he's convicted or acquitted. It is extremely concerning though.

 

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I'm SO surprised by this. He's probably mad that the simple fact he is responsible for a human being when all he wanted was a night of fun. Sure, take it out on the child.

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I'd like to know what actually happened before passing judgment. Far too often sensationalized stories get released to elicit a reaction, and gain more clicks. I just don't have a very high opinion of the media nowadays.

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4 hours ago, Excel said:

I'd like to know what actually happened before passing judgment. Far too often sensationalized stories get released to elicit a reaction, and gain more clicks. I just don't have a very high opinion of the media nowadays.

Well considering he punched his pregnant girlfriend in the gut before, I'd say this is one of those things you can pass judgement on

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Guess this girl or his kid are gonna have to end up dead before they'll do anything.

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Six weeks after Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Tyreek Hill was suspended from the team, amid an ongoing child abuse probe, prosecutors are no longer actively working the criminal case.

"It is not an active investigation,” Johnson County District Attorney Steve Howe said in an email Friday morning. "As in any case, if we receive additional evidence we reevaluate.”

Howe also told The Star that his comments made in an April 24 news conference "still hold true.” At that time, he said he believed the 3-year-old son of Hill and fiancee Crystal Espinal had been hurt but couldn’t prove who did it.

Two days after that news conference, and after a taped conversation of Hill and Espinal talking about their son and how he got hurt surfaced, Chiefs coach Andy Reid said the criminal investigation had been re-opened.

When asked Thursday if the case had ever been reopened, Howe did not respond.

But Hill’s attorney, Trey Pettlon, said Friday the criminal case had been closed for a while.

"It’s my understanding the criminal investigation has been closed for quite some time now and obviously there’s been some misinformation about that, but it is closed,” Pettlon said.

Though the criminal investigation is no longer active, Hill and Espinal do have an ongoing case with the Kansas Department for Children and Families. Generally speaking, cases like these can take weeks, months or even years for the families to receive the services they need.

Mike Deines, a DCF spokesman, said he could not comment on the ongoing case.

Many across the Kansas City area have been waiting on news out of Howe’s office. Hill’s future with the team has been in limbo.

In a May press conference, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said the league was waiting for permission to interview Hill for its own investigation. That directive stems from the child welfare case, NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said Friday.

"There is a court proceeding still going on involving CPS, Child Protection Services, and we will not interfere with that,” Goodell said then. "The priority is this young child and so we will obviously be cooperative with whatever the court wants there. We are prepared to go ahead and have an interview whenever we have the permission to.”

News surfaced in mid-March that Overland Park police took two reports at Hill’s Johnson County home, one for battery and the other for child abuse and neglect. The police reports, dated March 5 and March 14, involved a juvenile.

The Star reported on March 15 that a source familiar with the situation said an incident at Hill’s home left the boy with a broken arm.

The Star reported on April 18 that sources said the 3-year-old was removed from the custody of Hill and the boy’s mother.

It isn’t clear if that status has changed. An Instagram video posted Monday to an account in the boy’s name showed the child playing on park playground. Hill can be heard talking to the child while he traversed a rope bridge.

On April 24, Howe said he wouldn’t be filing charges and that though he thought a crime had been committed, he couldn’t prove who hurt the child.

The next day, a Kansas City television station aired the taped recording of the graphic conversation between Hill and Espinal — who is pregnant with twins.

On April 25, Chiefs general manager Brett Veach said Hill would not participate in team activities for the foreseeable future.

At the time, owner Clark Hunt said he was "deeply disturbed” by the audio recording.

In a four-page letter sent to the NFL on May 2, an attorney for Hill denied the child abuse claims that were alluded to in the audio recording, which was allegedly made by Hill’s fiancee in a Dubai airport.

The letter disputes nearly every claim made in the snippets of the 11-minute recording aired by the Kansas City television station.

"He is committed to improving his life and becoming the best parent he can be,” Pettlon wrote in the letter. "... He is very upbeat even through this difficult process, and he’s embracing the counseling and the educational aspect to it.”

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article231298163.html

and of course...

 

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Ridiculous. Not to mention he'll probably get paid a nice sum when his contract is almost up.

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The fans in KC need to make a statement if they allow him back to the team.  Total boycott.  

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It really is absurd how video footage is everything in these situations.  Kareem Hunt kicks a grown woman (not even that viciously all things considered) during an altercation at a hotel room and it's caught on tape: instantly cut, later suspended 6 games by the NFL.  Tyreek Hill abuses his child regularly and eventually breaks his arm.  No footage? No problem!  Here's your check!

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Tyreek Hill: A timeline and breakdown of his legal troubles

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On Friday, June 7, it was reported that the criminal investigation into Tyreek Hill was inactive.

So the case is not closed, but there is not enough information to pursue charges at this time. We know the child was injured but there isn't enough evidence either way to prove what happened. The case won't go anywhere until more information is uncovered.

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On June 10, 810 Sports reported that neither Hill nor Espinal broke their son’s arm. Rather, that it was medically determined to be caused by him falling and attempting to brace himself against the fall. Then they reported that Espinal asked a third party to report that Hill broke his son’s arm because she felt Hill had become too controlling and abusive in their relationship. This started the entire investigation. On a welfare check in March, authorities observed welts and bruises on their son. Both admitted that it was the result of spanking and using a belt as punishment, and both have admitted they engaged in these behaviors. The District Attorney could not determine who went too far in the use of corporal punishment; hence the comment at a previous press conference that said a crime had been committed but they could not prove who did it.

The league can decide to suspend Hill under the personal conduct policy, whether or not he is brought up on charges.

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Any updates on this, or what the chiefs are going you do?

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On 6/11/2019 at 2:20 PM, KzEaglefan86 said:

It really is absurd how video footage is everything in these situations.  Kareem Hunt kicks a grown woman (not even that viciously all things considered) during an altercation at a hotel room and it's caught on tape: instantly cut, later suspended 6 games by the NFL.  Tyreek Hill abuses his child regularly and eventually breaks his arm.  No footage? No problem!  Here's your check!

Goodell is just not a good commissioner

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