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Is former Chiefs RB Jamaal Charles a Hall of Famer?

Should Jamaal Charles get into the Hall of Fame?  

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Is former Chiefs RB Jamaal Charles a Hall of Famer?

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Jamaal Charles' career could be coming to a close shortly.

Months removed from playing just two games for the Jacksonville Jaguars, the former Kansas City Chiefs great told TMZ Sports this week that his future is still "in the air" and that there is a "possibility" that he's played his last game.

Considering that Charles could be calling it quits shortly, it's worth considering his legacy. The 32-year-old running back already has. When asked about his Pro Football Hall of Fame candidacy, Charles was definitive: He deserves a gold jacket.

"I mean, some of my numbers look way better than some people already in Canton," Charles told TMZ. "I think what's gonna definitely haunt me is not winning a Super Bowl but I hope that people can see what type of person I was from playing football, on the field and off the field."

Is Charles a Hall of Fame running back? Let's dive into this thought experiment.

Charles self-diagnoses his gold-jacket viability pretty well. Over the course of his 11-year career, Charles has averaged 5.4 yards per carry, more than any other running back not named Marion Motley. That's more than Jim Brown's 5.2 YPC, Joe Perry's 5.0, Gale Sayers' 5.0 and Barry Sanders' 5.0. All five of those backs are in Canton.

"That tells you what type of player I was," Charles said. "I gave it my all. Every time I touched the ball, I averaged six yards a carry basically."

However, Charles' career was riddled with injuries -- he started over 10 games in a season just three times -- and as the running back offered, he played in just two playoff games and never won a Super Bowl. Due to injury and playing at the same time as Adrian Peterson, LeSean McCoy and Arian Foster, Charles never led the league in rushing either.

The last six running backs to be enshrined in Canton are Terrell Davis, LaDainian Tomlinson, Jerome Bettis, Curtis Martin, Marshall Faulk and Emmitt Smith. Five of those players are among the top 12 all-time in rushing, and there are two active players -- Frank Gore and Adrian Peterson -- who are already there.

Meanwhile, Charles is 56th all-time, 44 yards behind Davis, who, in just seven seasons, led the league in rushing once and rushing TDs twice, won two Super Bowls and was named Super Bowl MVP.

A two-time first-team All Pro, Charles' best campaign arguably came in 2013 when the running back led all players with 19 total touchdowns and racked up 1,980 yards from scrimmage.

Charles hasn't seen a campaign like that in some time though. The running back has started just five games over the last four seasons, totaling 1,034 total yards and seven scores on 206 touches for three franchises during that span.

Like the continuation of his career, Charles' HOF candidacy is still up in the air. It will be dependent on Charles' company, others eligible for enshrinement five years after he retires, and the 48-person Selection Committee to determine whether he can ride an electric albeit inconsistent career into Canton.

 

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He just barely has over 10,000 yards total. There is Runningbacks that have over 10,000 just rushing that are not in or won't get in. He is delusional. This isn't like a Terrell Davis situation either. 

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Nope. He was a really nice back, but if you're gonna go the Terrell Davis route then you better have rushing titles to back it up. Rings don't hurt either. 

Hall of Very Good.

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He's not in the top 100 in total TDs or total yards from scrimmage. He's not in the top 50 for rushing yards and barely in the top 100 for rushing TDs. I don't think he's a legitimate candidate. In my mind, he is well behind these 20 guys and there are plenty of others that are ahead of him.

1   Frank Gore    14,748    2005-2018    3TM
2   Adrian Peterson    13,318    2007-2018    4TM
3    Fred Taylor    11,695    1998-2010    2TM
4    Steven Jackson    11,438    2004-2015    3TM
5    Corey Dillon    11,241    1997-2006    2TM
6    Warrick Dunn    10,967    1997-2008    2TM
7    Ricky Watters    10,643    1992-2001    3TM
8    Jamal Lewis    10,607    2000-2009    2TM
9    LeSean McCoy    10,606    2009-2018    2TM
10    Thomas Jones    10,591    2000-2011    5TM
11   Tiki Barber    10,449    1997-2006    nyg
12    Eddie George    10,441    1996-2004    2TM
13    Marshawn Lynch    10,379    2007-2018    3TM
14    Ottis Anderson    10,273    1979-1992    2TM
15    Clinton Portis    9,923    2002-2010    2TM
16    Matt Forte    9,796    2008-2017    2TM
17    Chris Johnson    9,651    2008-2017    3TM
18    Shaun Alexander    9,453    2000-2008    2TM
19    Herschel Walker    8,225    1986-1997    4TM
20    Roger Craig    8,189    1983-1993    3TM

This doesn't even mention the young guys that are steamrolling their way into the conversation either like Todd Gurley, Elliott and Saquon.

Charles fell off a cliff in 2015. If he had mustered 3,000 yards and 25 TDs over the last four years, maybe it's an actual conversation instead of a meme.

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I suppose you need some defining quality to make it into the HOF... For some players it is a Super Bowl win. For other players it could be a record-breaking stat, or a longevity record, or something. I have a hard time finding it for Jamaal Charles. He was named All-Pro twice. That's good. He's definitely in the Hall of Very Good, but I don't know if he has enough to get into the Hall of Fame.

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His best stat is ypc other than that he doesnt have HOF numbers or post season success.

Good player good back not HOF

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On 4/7/2019 at 9:59 PM, zenclaybourne said:

He's not in the top 100 in total TDs or total yards from scrimmage. He's not in the top 50 for rushing yards and barely in the top 100 for rushing TDs. I don't think he's a legitimate candidate. In my mind, he is well behind these 20 guys and there are plenty of others that are ahead of him.

1   Frank Gore    14,748    2005-2018    3TM
2   Adrian Peterson    13,318    2007-2018    4TM
3    Fred Taylor    11,695    1998-2010    2TM
4    Steven Jackson    11,438    2004-2015    3TM
5    Corey Dillon    11,241    1997-2006    2TM
6    Warrick Dunn    10,967    1997-2008    2TM
7    Ricky Watters    10,643    1992-2001    3TM
8    Jamal Lewis    10,607    2000-2009    2TM
9    LeSean McCoy    10,606    2009-2018    2TM
10    Thomas Jones    10,591    2000-2011    5TM
11   Tiki Barber    10,449    1997-2006    nyg
12    Eddie George    10,441    1996-2004    2TM
13    Marshawn Lynch    10,379    2007-2018    3TM
14    Ottis Anderson    10,273    1979-1992    2TM
15    Clinton Portis    9,923    2002-2010    2TM
16    Matt Forte    9,796    2008-2017    2TM
17    Chris Johnson    9,651    2008-2017    3TM
18    Shaun Alexander    9,453    2000-2008    2TM
19    Herschel Walker    8,225    1986-1997    4TM
20    Roger Craig    8,189    1983-1993    3TM

This doesn't even mention the young guys that are steamrolling their way into the conversation either like Todd Gurley, Elliott and Saquon.

Charles fell off a cliff in 2015. If he had mustered 3,000 yards and 25 TDs over the last four years, maybe it's an actual conversation instead of a meme.

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I’d have to see TDs with this list. But AP is a lock. I’d probably consider Dillon, Tiki and Alexander due to yards plus other accomplishments. 

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In 5 years, do you think most NFL fans will even quickly remember Jamaal Charles or even who he played for?    He absolutely is NOT a HOFer.    For all the NFL football I watch, I honestly can't remember a game he played in.    I can remember TD, Roger Craig, Curtis Martin, Jerome Bettis, Marshall Faulk etc - but nothing about Charles' career really stick out in my mind.

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He is the answer to a trivia question, not a Hall of Fame player.

The NBA no longer has a hall of fame after the Basketball Hall of Fame let in Tracy McGrady.

Now it is the hall of mediocre stat compilers and others.

 

Here is his career summary in 3 lines

  • He had a great ypc on some mediocre teams
  • He was often injured
  • He got hurt after 3 carries in a 45-44 shootout loss that would have likely been a blowout win if he did not get hurt.

Edge should not get in the Hall of Fame but Edge had a far greater impact on the NFL.

Same goes for Tiki Barber, Ricky Watters, Roger Craig, Herschel Walker, Fred Taylor, and Ottis Anderson

  • I think Herschel belongs in because the USFL was pro football
    • or just give him a lowball equivalent of 1000 yards rushing 400 receiving and 8 TDs in 2 more NFL seasons and he is in
  • I'd be OK with Tiki and Craig in the hall as well

Then I would put guys like Brian Westbrook, Warrick Dunn and Matt Forte ahead of Charles in the no pile.

 

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2 hours ago, skippyx said:

He is the answer to a trivia question, not a Hall of Fame player.

The NBA no longer has a hall of fame after the Basketball Hall of Fame let in Tracy McGrady.

Now it is the hall of mediocre stat compilers and others.

 

Here is his career summary in 3 lines

  • He had a great ypc on some mediocre teams
  • He was often injured
  • He got hurt after 3 carries in a 45-44 shootout loss that would have likely been a blowout win if he did not get hurt.

Edge should not get in the Hall of Fame but Edge had a far greater impact on the NFL.

Same goes for Tiki Barber, Ricky Watters, Roger Craig, Herschel Walker, Fred Taylor, and Ottis Anderson

  • I think Herschel belongs in because the USFL was pro football
    • or just give him a lowball equivalent of 1000 yards rushing 400 receiving and 8 TDs in 2 more NFL seasons and he is in
  • I'd be OK with Tiki and Craig in the hall as well

Then I would put guys like Brian Westbrook, Warrick Dunn and Matt Forte ahead of Charles in the no pile.

 

I became an Eagles fan because of Herschel Walker

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