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12 minutes ago, Eagles Finest said:

I went to bed with about 1:47 left in the game and didn't find out until this morning. My coworkers were all discussing it. I bet Garrett gets suspended for the rest of the season.

Good bet lol. It's already happened.

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1 minute ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Good bet lol. It's already happened.

Yeah, not just the rest of the season, but indefinitely. That could mean the rest of this season, but it could also extend into (or completely encompass) 2020. Which for this situation, should be all of 2020 and then he can beg for reinstatement and pray that he's allowed back onto an NFL field.

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1 minute ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Yeah, not just the rest of the season, but indefinitely. That could mean the rest of this season, but it could also extend into (or completely encompass) 2020. Which for this situation, should be all of 2020 and then he can beg for reinstatement and pray that he's allowed back onto an NFL field.

Yeah, I'm definitely curious to see how long this one lasts. I can't recall another incident where someone used a helmet or any other object as a weapon against a player in the NFL before. 

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Just now, EagleJoe8 said:

Yeah, I'm definitely curious to see how long this one lasts. I can't recall another incident where someone used a helmet or any other object as a weapon against a player in the NFL before. 

The closest incident that I can think of, off the top of my head (no pun intended... well, maybe a little...), would be Albert Haynesworth stomping on the unprotected head of the Cowboys center, Andre Gurode.

Maybe there's another incident that would be a closer comparison, that that's the first one I can think of.

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4 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

The closest incident that I can think of, off the top of my head (no pun intended... well, maybe a little...), would be Albert Haynesworth stomping on the unprotected head of the Cowboys center, Andre Gurode.

Maybe there's another incident that would be a closer comparison, that that's the first one I can think of.

Yeah, I was thinking of Gurode also. I know his head was gashed open. Amazing he didn't press criminal charges against Haynesworth.

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1 minute ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Yeah, I was thinking of Gurode also. I know his head was gashed open. Amazing he didn't press criminal charges against Haynesworth.

I just can't believe that it's been 13 years since that happened. Tempus Fugit!

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The Myles Garrett Incident is just the Latest for an Undisciplined Browns Team

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The Browns have taken a lot of risks, and the negative ramifications are piling up.
Author: Albert Breer
 
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The punches had been thrown, the helmet had been swung and the ejections had been levied. And after all that, the Browns could leave it to their polarizing 24-year-old quarterback to put the Fracas by the Lake in perspective, and in its place in the story of their 2019 season.

Baker Mayield told Fox’s Erin Andrews at about 11:30 p.m. ET that he didn’t really get a great look at how everything unfolded. Then, he implied he really need one.

"It’s inexcusable,” Mayfield said. "I don’t care, rivalry or not, we can’t do that. That’s kind of the history of what’s been going on here lately, hurting yourself. And that’s endangering the other team. It’s inexcusable. He knows that. Or I hope does now. It’s tough. We’ll see.”

Mayfield’s was more than a realist’s view of the TNF altercation between Pittsburgh quarterback Mason Rudolph and Cleveland pass-rusher Myles Garrett. It was an acknowledgment that what we all saw happen in the final 15 seconds of the Browns’ 21-7 win was no isolated incident. And while that’s not the only reason Cleveland is 4-6 through 10 games—the offensive line’s construction is high on the list, too—it’s certainly one of them.

No, we couldn’t have predicted what we saw at First Energy Stadium on Thursday night. But we can look closely at what Mayfield is saying: the history of what’s been going on here.

Cleveland is first in the NFL in penalties (87), penalty yards (822) and total flags thrown (112). The Browns are also fifth in giveaways (17) and 25th in turnover differential (minus-4). And those crimes of discipline aren’t wholly unrelated to the events of Thursday night.

Does a team’s tendency to jump offsides, or not secure the ball, lead to a propensity to throw hands when a quarterback, like, say, Rudolph, gets chippy with a guy who could tie him in a knot? No. But…would this have happened if Garrett were playing for New England or Seattle or even a young rising team with its act together like Indianapolis?

That’s not to absolve Garrett of blame. He did what he did and got what he deserved.

It’s just that it doesn’t seem like a coincidence that this is the same team that had a player ejected earlier for a head hit on wide receiver Diontae Johnson after that team’s defenders had already celebrated another high shot that left receiver JuJu Smith-Schuster concussed. Nor does it seem like happenstance that this was also the team that earlier in the week had to move on from a former draft pick that arrived with more red flags than Gorbachev’s Moscow, with accountability issues mounting for that player, Antonio Callaway, and a second drug suspension looming.

In so many ways, this is what the Browns signed up for. Cleveland took risk after risk over the last two years, some (Kareem Hunt) more serious than others (Odell Beckham), but it all added to a mix that was going to be a challenge for any coach to keep from boiling over.

GM John Dorsey, for his part, has been here before. He did this plenty in Kansas City. But there, he had Andy Reid, and Reid’s two decades of head-coaching experience, and history having worked with a ton of troubled and/or eccentric players (Mike Vick, Terrell Owens, DeSean Jackson, and so on). In Cleveland, he hired a first-year head coach, in Freddie Kitchens, who’d also be calling plays for a full season for the first time in his career.

So who’s to blame? For Thursday, it’s Garrett mostly and, to a lesser degree, the other players involved in the donnybrook.

But if you place this in the bigger picture, there are plenty of places to look. And it was none other than Mayfield himself, a guy who’s come under fire plenty for his own free-wheeling ways, who was first to publicly make that connection.

"The reality is, he’s gonna get suspended,” he told Andrews, before he even could smudge the eye black off his face, post-victory. "We don’t know for how long, and that hurts our team. We can’t do that. We can’t continue hurt this team. It’s inexcusable.”

The good news for Cleveland is that the Browns did make off with a much-needed win.

The bad news? The way that win ended was no outlier in this particular season for the team. Even a young quarterback, who saw the way a winning program was run in his college years, could identify that. And if the trend that continued Thursday night doesn’t stop soon, there won’t be many more victories like this for the 2019 Browns to celebrate.

Worse, what happens after that could be even more uncomfortable for those involved.

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@ndirish5567 I think you've warned us of the Pounceys before. No surprise, on your anecdotes, his curbstomping.

 

Can we get a video of Negan and Abraham with Myles and Rudolph? Where is p.fil?

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8 hours ago, Captain F said:

Opinion?  Are we watching the same video?  At the moment he kicks at him,  where is Garrets hand? On Rudolph's facemask, pulling him up off the ground.  Not before.  During.  

I wouldn't even call it a kick. He is using his right foot to try and push him off and get his leverage back.

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10 hours ago, Captain F said:

No.  He kicked at him WHILE BEING PICKED UP BY HIS FACEMASK.  

you mean he kicked him while Myles was being held by 2 other steelers.  Then, Rudolf, the red nose sissy went back for more.

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2 hours ago, Mat said:

I wouldn't even call it a kick. He is using his right foot to try and push him off and get his leverage back.

video is slowed down some for one. Legs are the most powerful muscles in the body. Back when i was a wrestler I could put up almost 1000 pounds on incline leg press . You add in your twig and berries are all bunched up in a jock  getting extra pressure from anything let alone a cleat will hurt. Not sure if you dont have a D or you just been lucky enough not to get a shot to the sack

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I do find it funny that all this is taken place like assault charges maybe getting the police involved suspensions for the rest of the year and more for a heated scuffle on the field and while it's was not right in anyway ... These oversized men punch a woman, use a gun on someone or actual acts of violence off the field and the NFL looks the other way. 

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20 minutes ago, bwestbrook36 said:

I do find it funny that all this is taken place like assault charges maybe getting the police involved suspensions for the rest of the year and more for a heated scuffle on the field and while it's was not right in anyway ... These oversized men punch a woman, use a gun on someone or actual acts of violence off the field and the NFL looks the other way. 

For the league, it's the optics. Ray Rice had a 2 game suspension if I remember correctly, when we only HEARD about him assaulting his then GF, now wife, but as soon as the video was made public, suddenly it became much longer.

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29 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

For the league, it's the optics. Ray Rice had a 2 game suspension if I remember correctly, when we only HEARD about him assaulting his then GF, now wife, but as soon as the video was made public, suddenly it became much longer.

I know I was just saying in general

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On 11/15/2019 at 7:32 PM, IFB DOG said:

@ndirish5567 I think you've warned us of the Pounceys before. No surprise, on your anecdotes, his curbstomping.

 

Can we get a video of Negan and Abraham with Myles and Rudolph? Where is p.fil?

Haha. I warned you of the Pounceys when they were at Florida. Love the props. You have a great f'ing memory. 

In this case though, I was loving Maurice. 

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39 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Yeah, in this instance, I don't have an issue with what Pouncey did.

Absolutely not. I'd hope one (or more) of our lineman would do the same for Carson. 

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20 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Absolutely not. I'd hope one (or more) of our lineman would do the same for Carson. 

If it happened at home, I'd hope the 60,000 in attendance would help them.

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9 hours ago, ndirish5567 said:

Haha. I warned you of the Pounceys when they were at Florida. Love the props. You have a great f'ing memory. 

In this case though, I was loving Maurice. 

I pay attention to my surroundings while skull-Fing yer mom!

 

 

 

 

Mom joke! Bah! :flex: 👳‍♀️ 🐾

 

 

wrong forum? 🙂

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12 hours ago, IFB DOG said:

I pay attention to my surroundings while skull-Fing yer mom!

 

 

 

 

Mom joke! Bah! :flex: 👳‍♀️ 🐾

 

 

wrong forum? 🙂

😂

 

Never the wrong forum bro. 

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